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Posted: 10/31/2010 12:19:26 PM EDT
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Ok, I've seen several mini-reviews of this scope and they all say that the reticle is daylight visible and the glass is clean with true 1X. The "eye box" is supposed to be as big or bigger than a K-Dot.
I'm buying one dangit! Will y'all kindly stop making me spend money.  |
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Posted: 10/31/2010 2:15:42 PM EDT
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if its daylight visible I'm in!
I'm gonna try to get one for review.... |
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Posted: 10/31/2010 5:11:37 PM EDT
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if its daylight visible I'm in! I'm gonna try to get one for review.... About damn time! 
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Posted: 10/31/2010 5:48:47 PM EDT
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I see no reason why it wouldnt be day time visible , it is the same reticule as whats in my ar322 and red and green both are visible at high noon and I can assure you the range where I shoot is just right to be wrong when it comes to the sun. I ended putting my 322 on my dedicated 22lr tac-sol upper and when hunting squirrels the optic does not wash out against the sky or leaves in red or green
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Posted: 11/1/2010 8:01:06 AM EDT
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I just got one of these last weekend, the coyote tan version, and mounted it on in a Burris P.E.P.R mount. It replaced my eotech xps2-0, and I'm glad I made the change, this is a great high value scope. Its in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWryNuntho4 and i will be reviewing the scope exclusively soon if anyone wants to see it in more detail.
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Posted: 11/1/2010 9:38:43 AM EDT
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I just got one of these last weekend, the coyote tan version, and mounted it on in a Burris P.E.P.R mount. It replaced my eotech xps2-0, and I'm glad I made the change, this is a great high value scope. Its in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWryNuntho4 and i will be reviewing the scope exclusively soon if anyone wants to see it in more detail. How is the glass? |
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Posted: 11/1/2010 9:53:31 AM EDT
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It's my first scope that I didn't buy from wal-mart so I don't have much to compare it to high-quality wise. The illumination has plenty of adjustment, and is easily seen in bright sunlight. At 1x its not quite as clear as my Eotech was shooting both eyes open, but is still easily done there is just a very slight blur. It seems to pick up a lot of light and its very clear at any magnification. I played around with a Millet DMS 1-4 at the local gun shop, and this scope is superior in every way.
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Posted: 11/1/2010 10:00:26 AM EDT
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It's my first scope that I didn't buy from wal-mart so I don't have much to compare it to high-quality wise. The illumination has plenty of adjustment, and is easily seen in bright sunlight. At 1x its not quite as clear as my Eotech was shooting both eyes open, but is still easily done there is just a very slight blur. It seems to pick up a lot of light and its very clear at any magnification. I played around with a Millet DMS 1-4 at the local gun shop, and this scope is superior in every way. You may need to adjust the reticle focus with the ring at the back of the eyepiece. |
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Posted: 11/1/2010 10:06:55 AM EDT
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TTIRTMI!
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Posted: 11/1/2010 2:49:08 PM EDT
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Blur gone, thanks
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Posted: 11/1/2010 7:26:02 PM EDT
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About damn time!
That's what I was thinkin! So i called MidwayUSA this morning to order one. Spoke to a lovely 'Camile'  ...poor little sweetie must've got some rocks while out trick or treating last night.  Looking forward to checkin out the optic! Hope she didn't put a curse or hex on the damn thing 
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Posted: 11/3/2010 1:16:43 PM EDT
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I'm going to order one too. If I don't like it I guess I can always try it's big brother, the XTR.
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Posted: 11/5/2010 2:17:59 PM EDT
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Bare with me, as I just got it in the mail and these are my quick initial feelings/views. I'll report more later as I'm about to head back to work now...
Very well made and sturdy. Reticle and illumination is daytime visible except in the brightest of bright sun against a white wall! Push-button illumination on and off...hold button for 5 seconds to turn off, push to turn on. 30mm tube, glass etched reticle, and 2nd focal plane. Reticle is off the Burris 332 optic and is ranging up to 600 yards. At 1x power, it is a "true" 1x from about 10 yards and beyond. Glass is very clear and bright, and HUGE field of view at 1x. Good compact length at 10.25 inches long. Entire rear eyepiece turns while adjusting magnification for easy to grip access. Keep in mind it does have a large 3.6MOA center dot so it's not exactly for precision shooting, but for anything else, it's great. This scope is just tons better than the Nikko Stirling 1-4x24 that it's replacing in all areas. That's going back to Midway for a refund after only 2 weeks. I've also owned a Weaver 1-3x20 and a Millet DMS 1-4x24 a few years back just to give you an idea of my experience with low powered scopes. This is leaps and bounds ahead of all those. For $299 on sale now at midway...I highly recommend it. Looks to be a great scope for a CQB/midrange combat/3 gun rifle. Taking it out to the range soon! Here's an update pic of the rifle with a recent makeover from buttstock, bipod with mount, Midwest Industries T12 rail, and Daniel Defense offset mount for the Primary Arms microdot. http://healthbydon.com/ar15burris1.jpg http://healthbydon.com/ar15burris2.jpg |
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Posted: 11/7/2010 4:56:24 AM EDT
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I bought the FF30 TACT 1X4 scope and wanted the brown glad to see a scope come in more than Henry Ford's color. I went with a PEPR Burris scope mount for my AR and put it on the rifle. Nice scope very clear glass and really like the push button on/off button instead of usual twist like Aimpoints. I have an IOR 1.1X4 to compare with and it has more FOV than the IOR. Glass is clear and easy to rotate from 1 to 4. Have to get it to the range soon and zero it. Made in Phillipines not China. Elevation and windage are covered but can remove caps and adjust with fingers easy and have a good solid click if you don't hear you feel it. Eye relief is well over 3 inches nice scope so far will zero it soon.
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Posted: 11/7/2010 9:48:57 AM EDT
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Very interesting. I'd really like to see how the less expensive 1-4s stack up. You know, GRSC, SWFA SS (when available), Burris, etc. stack up.
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Posted: 11/7/2010 1:26:32 PM EDT
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I'm tempted to try one of these out since it looks to address some of the shortfalls of the DMS-1 scope. Mainly the daylight visible illumination, and haveing some BDC in the reticle. Wonder how it compares weight wise?
Think I'll wait on some more reviews to hit the web to see how it's working out for folks. I'm also interested in the Vortex 1x4 that is soon to hit the market, but don't feel I really need the turrets, and it's a chunk more expensive. Will have to see. |
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Posted: 11/7/2010 1:47:08 PM EDT
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Very interesting. I'd really like to see how the less expensive 1-4s stack up. You know, GRSC, SWFA SS (when available), Burris, etc. stack up. I thought the Super Sniper 1-4x was expected to be in the $700+ range? I could be misremembering though. |
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Posted: 11/7/2010 2:03:07 PM EDT
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I thought the Super Sniper 1-4x was expected to be in the $700+ range? I could be misremembering though.
Me too, plus it looks like early 2011 before it is available. |
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Posted: 11/7/2010 3:17:34 PM EDT
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I'm tempted to try one of these out since it looks to address some of the shortfalls of the DMS-1 scope. Mainly the daylight visible illumination, and haveing some BDC in the reticle. Wonder how it compares weight wise? Think I'll wait on some more reviews to hit the web to see how it's working out for folks. I'm also interested in the Vortex 1x4 that is soon to hit the market, but don't feel I really need the turrets, and it's a chunk more expensive. Will have to see. I just received this to replace my Millet. I have not shot it yet, but there is no comparison. The eye relief, the field of view, and the clarity of the glass is not even in the same universe as the Millet. They say ignorance is bliss, and that was certainly the case for me with the Millet. I can't believe I had that on my rifle. That's how much better I think this is. Range day will be Friday. |
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Posted: 11/7/2010 6:26:29 PM EDT
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I'm tempted to try one of these out since it looks to address some of the shortfalls of the DMS-1 scope. Mainly the daylight visible illumination, and haveing some BDC in the reticle. Wonder how it compares weight wise? Think I'll wait on some more reviews to hit the web to see how it's working out for folks. I'm also interested in the Vortex 1x4 that is soon to hit the market, but don't feel I really need the turrets, and it's a chunk more expensive. Will have to see. I just received this to replace my Millet. I have not shot it yet, but there is no comparison. The eye relief, the field of view, and the clarity of the glass is not even in the same universe as the Millet. They say ignorance is bliss, and that was certainly the case for me with the Millet. I can't believe I had that on my rifle. That's how much better I think this is. Range day will be Friday. Reviews like this will definately sway me. From the reading I've done so far, the Burris is a lot more forgiving of your cheek weld positioning making for faster shots, that's a big plus. Keep the input coming, I may just have to order one of these sooner rather than later. 
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Posted: 11/8/2010 8:53:55 AM EDT
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Very interesting. I'd really like to see how the less expensive 1-4s stack up. You know, GRSC, SWFA SS (when available), Burris, etc. stack up. I thought the Super Sniper 1-4x was expected to be in the $700+ range? I could be misremembering though. +1 I'd like to see a sub-$400 roundup: Burris, CMR, DMS-1, GRSC, Mark AR etc. Still waiting on the PST to do a XTR vs PST thread.
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Posted: 11/10/2010 10:08:41 AM EDT
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I just received mine from Midway and it appears to be well made, great clarity, wide FOV, and very bright, albeit somewhat busy, reticle. I should have a mount by early next week and will report back after a range trip. This is my first low-end optic and I am quite impressed with the initial and apparent build quality. The optic resembles a USO SN-1 in appearance, yet lighter like say a Nightforce NSX 1-4. My plan is to eventually run it on a 12" ACR.
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Posted: 11/10/2010 10:33:19 AM EDT
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I just received mine from Midway and it appears to be well made, great clarity, wide FOV, and very bright, albeit somewhat busy, reticle. I should have a mount by early next week and will report back after a range trip. This is my first low-end optic and I am quite impressed with the initial and apparent build quality. The optic resembles a USO SN-1 in appearance, yet lighter like say a Nightforce NSX 1-4. My plan is to eventually run it on a 12" ACR. Cheers I agree....the reticle is a little busy but functional... http://burrisoptics.com/images/ballistic_cqreticle_dia.jpg |
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Posted: 11/10/2010 10:35:18 AM EDT
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Zeroed mine yesterday. The huge fov is great. The clarity was good too. The 2 moa dot was easy to pick up on targets rom 15-50 yards. Shooting poppers was easy and fun.
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Posted: 11/10/2010 2:42:02 PM EDT
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I got mine last week. Got it mounted up in a Bobro extended mount. This is my first experience with 1-4x optics.
Anyway...my observations: Appears well built, love the color! It goes great on an FDE build.  The magnification ring is the entire rear objective...so there is plenty surface from which to adjust. The power settings on the FDE color do not contrast, so they're hard to see. The lens on the front is set back pretty well to prevent lens damage. The elev/wind adjustments are positive both heard and felt. I kinda like the push-button illumination switch (but the standard dial would be better). It's definately daytime visable! 
Eye relief is forgiving, prolly 3-4" as well as the exit pupil allows for some head movement while still maintaining a sight picture. The glass is pretty damn clear!! 
About the only thing I'm noticing is a slight fish-eye distortion on 1x and it appears to be more like a 1.1x. 
Overall I'm very happy with the optic I got for what I payed!!!!
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Posted: 11/10/2010 4:39:30 PM EDT
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About the only thing I'm noticing is a slight fish-eye distortion on 1x and it appears to be more like a 1.1x.
Have you looked through it at objects further, ie 20 yards and beyond? Mine definitely looks like a "true" 1x at further distances. Up close, all 1x-Xx powered scopes will exhibit some fish eye and slight magnification. It's the nature of the beast. Also, have you played with the eyepiece focus to get your sight image "true" with both eyes opened? Once you get that dialed in, it'll be great! |
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Posted: 11/10/2010 5:03:07 PM EDT
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Also, have you played with the eyepiece focus to get your sight image "true" with both eyes opened?
Yes, I've played with it ...but now I'm wonderin'? Adjust eyepiece so the reticle is in focus, then use BAC & focus on the environment. Right?
This is how I have it currently. Let me know if I'm nuts 
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Posted: 11/10/2010 5:37:25 PM EDT
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Also, have you played with the eyepiece focus to get your sight image "true" with both eyes opened?
Yes, I've played with it ...but now I'm wonderin'? Adjust eyepiece so the reticle is in focus, then use BAC & focus on the environment. Right?
This is how I have it currently. Let me know if I'm nuts You're nuts!! 
No you've got it right. But I didn't so much as adjust until reticle was in focus, but rather adjusted until objects like trees, cars, etc looked natural in size and sight picture to me with both eyes both. I feel if there's even a very slight variation in focus/magnification between both eyes, it confuses your brain and distorts your overall image with the minute variance. So I'd rather just adjust to what looks natural as if I was not even looking through a scope. |
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Posted: 11/18/2010 2:41:15 PM EDT
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What kind of battery does it take?
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Posted: 11/18/2010 5:45:17 PM EDT
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What kind of battery does it take? Your regular standard CR2032 |
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Posted: 11/18/2010 6:40:46 PM EDT
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For me the downside to all of these newer 1-4x are the 3+ MOA center dots. With this reticle and the donut, why not do a 1 MOA center dot like EOTech? Am I missing something?
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Posted: 11/18/2010 7:02:19 PM EDT
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For me the downside to all of these newer 1-4x are the 3+ MOA center dots. With this reticle and the donut, why not do a 1 MOA center dot like EOTech? Am I missing something? Ballistic CQ Reticule |
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Posted: 11/19/2010 4:59:58 AM EDT
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For me the downside to all of these newer 1-4x are the 3+ MOA center dots. With this reticle and the donut, why not do a 1 MOA center dot like EOTech? Am I missing something? Ballistic CQ Reticule Thanks for the link, I had been looking for that. Okay, so it's 2.4 MOA. Still would love to see it at 1 MOA.
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Posted: 11/19/2010 8:44:13 AM EDT
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any factory fde 30mm mounts?
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Posted: 11/19/2010 12:37:36 PM EDT
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Anyone when the sale ends?
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Posted: 11/19/2010 1:39:34 PM EDT
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Anyone when the sale ends? Cant remember the exact date but its the end of Nov. |
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Posted: 11/19/2010 1:45:22 PM EDT
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any factory fde 30mm mounts? I have seen some FDE ADM Recons and Scouts, they are not pictured on their site but they are on Bravo Co. adds. Might have been just a special run. But a DE scope in a Blk mount on a Blk rifle looks good. |
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Posted: 11/19/2010 4:59:47 PM EDT
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any factory fde 30mm mounts? Noveske has some in stock. This is the mount I am using. It matches my N4 very well
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Posted: 11/20/2010 4:15:33 PM EDT
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any factory fde 30mm mounts? Noveske has some in stock. This is the mount I am using. It matches my N4 very well Temporarily Out of Stock :BANGS HEAD: |
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Posted: 11/20/2010 5:41:40 PM EDT
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I have been shooting iron sights with a BUIS and standard front post on my AR-15 carbine for over 5 years waiting to make a move into optics. This sounds like a great place to start and I liked the option o f 1-4 power.
I have read about the EoTech and Co-witness, but how does the Burris scope at these powers interact with a stanard AR-15 ft post. I would go with the Aerican Defense Recon Quick-Release Extended Scope Mount Picatinny-Style with 30mm Rings for the mount. Any advice appreciated. |
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Posted: 11/20/2010 5:57:02 PM EDT
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any factory fde 30mm mounts? Noveske has some in stock. This is the mount I am using. It matches my N4 very well Temporarily Out of Stock :BANGS HEAD:  Thats funny. It was in stock when I posted the link. Someone must have seen this thread and got it before you.
ETA: Just keep an eye out, I know when I placed my order it said out of stock afterwards. I bet they only keep one or two on hand and then order more when necessary. I also bet if out call them they would let you "backorder" it that way when it gets there in a week or two it will ship right out to you. |
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Posted: 11/20/2010 9:13:20 PM EDT
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Thats funny. It was in stock when I posted the link. Someone must have seen this thread and got it before you.Yup, that would be me and that is exactly what happened.
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Posted: 11/21/2010 5:05:17 AM EDT
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Thats funny. It was in stock when I posted the link. Someone must have seen this thread and got it before you.Yup, that would be me and that is exactly what happened. HA! Quick on the draw, you are. |
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Posted: 11/21/2010 4:29:57 PM EDT
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any factory fde 30mm mounts? Noveske has some in stock. This is the mount I am using. It matches my N4 very well Temporarily Out of Stock :BANGS HEAD: I may have had something to do with that. I had a lot of inquiries about Noveske/ADM mount after posting SCAR 17s pics.... SCAR pics thread It's a nice combo. Cheers |
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Posted: 11/21/2010 7:08:26 PM EDT
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i agree. The colors match up well enough, I honestly dont care about the optic itself. LOL |
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Posted: 11/22/2010 5:52:57 AM EDT
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I mounted one up Sunday and went to the range......
Good: 1. Glass is bright. I am impressed, but then again, this is my best scope. 2. I like the reticle even more than I thought I would. The day was cloudy, but the red is very likely daylight visible. 3. The zoom has short travel compared to my DMS. 4. Mounted in a Burris PEPR, there is clearance for Magpul MBUS. Not so good: 1. As others have stated, the illumination switch takes some getting used to. 2. The eye piece rotates when you change power. This means if you have a flip up scope cap, then it will rotate also. My DMS does not rotate when power is changed. 3. The zoom adjustment is knulred, but no raised area to really grasp. Cat tails are available for the XTR 1-4. Does anyone know if they will fit this scope or if a cat tail is on the market for it? I think it needs one. Overall, I am happy with the purchase. |
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Posted: 11/23/2010 5:56:56 PM EDT
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Cool!!!
Socommatthews just sold me his! Paid and sent you another making sure it is 30mm thx |
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Posted: 11/23/2010 8:13:37 PM EDT
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It's my first scope that I didn't buy from wal-mart so I don't have much to compare it to high-quality wise. The illumination has plenty of adjustment, and is easily seen in bright sunlight. At 1x its not quite as clear as my Eotech was shooting both eyes open, but is still easily done there is just a very slight blur. It seems to pick up a lot of light and its very clear at any magnification. I played around with a Millet DMS 1-4 at the local gun shop, and this scope is superior in every way. if you didn't buy it from walmart.. you got ripped off..:D |
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Posted: 11/24/2010 7:30:48 AM EDT
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I'm dying to see a comparison of this to the XTR. I'm torn between the two.
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Posted: 11/24/2010 7:51:55 AM EDT
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The only thing I would be interested in is how it compairs to the Leatherwood CMR, since it is better than anything else in price range. I think the CMR rectile looks better, the illumination can get washed out in full sun, but you have a very nice thick black horseshoe that is easy to pickup for close range, and a 1 MOA dot... along with ablity to measure things in mils and still has a BDC that goes out to a longer range. The 3x as much XTR is barely better optically, so hard to imagine the budget Burris is to be much better than a CMR. The CMR eye box is tight... its main flaw.
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