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Good stuff, thank you! ^^^
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That Premier looks outstanding. Although the price is pretty dang high.
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Tag to remind me to review the Leupold Pig Plex VX-R
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Originally Posted By FrankSL:
Tag to remind me to review the Leupold Pig Plex VX-R I'm very interested in reading this!! Also, and forgive me if I missed it, but has anyone done a review on a Burris XTR 1.5-6x40 with the 7.62 reticle? I can't seem to find any good info on it! |
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I am very interested in the Bushnell Tactical Elite 1-6.5x24mm FFP! Any chance you saw that?
Your shot coverage is the best so far. Great scopes coming this year. And interesting that SS is releasing a 1-6x24 HD. Seems people are listening. |
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I am very interested in the Bushnell Tactical Elite 1-6.5x24mm FFP! Any chance you saw that?
I did. I have a lot of these mini reviews still to go but I expect they will all be done in the next two weeks and that the table will be updated as well. |
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I looked at as many scopes and optics as I could at SHOT because I'll never have the chance to see that much high end stuff in one place again.
The doo doo brown S&B with the HK logo on the side 1.1-8x (i think) was awesome but I think the ELCAN specter DR trumped every 1-4x out there. I had it in my mind to get a NF 1-4 but I feel the elcan is almost as good as an aimpoint and as good as an acog. |
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The doo doo brown S&B with the HK logo on the side 1.1-8x (i think) was awesome but I think the ELCAN specter DR trumped every 1-4x out there. I had it in my mind to get a NF 1-4 but I feel the elcan is almost as good as an aimpoint and as good as an acog.
My Elcan review is coming up soon. I have finished writing it but sent it off to have some of the technical facts of the unique optical system double checked. It is definitely different and I think that you are right in that it is every bit as good as an Acog at being and Acog and almost as good as an Aimpoint at being an Aimpoint. |
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Thank you for doing this. What a wealth of info this has been. This year will should provide great reading as these scopes are put to their paces
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excellent updates, thank you !
All it's doing is making me want the GRSC 1-6 though.... |
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I also made the rounds of the Shot Show and spent a day in just the optics section. We will be putting Aimpoint M-4's on our carbines but will use the Meopta for the SOCOM16's.
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I was there as well for the whole week, and I had the exact opposite impression of the Steiner 1-4x, and I'm an optics snob too. They said there was a big difference between the 1-4x they had stand-laone, and the one mounted on one of the demo guns. I looked at the one on the demo gun, and it was one of the most impressive 1-4x scopes I have ever seen. The glass clarity reminded me of Swarovski, the illumination was one of the brightest I have seen, it had zero-stop on very low-profile uncapped knobs, one of the smoothest magnification rings-if not the smoothest, and in-between OFF for the illumination rheostat.
I have zero connection with Steiner, and no motivation other than what I saw to make my statements. I do agree that the $1700 price point on their 1-4x will be a big turn-off, since so many 1-6x, 1-8x, and 1-10x scopes are becoming the rage. The exit pupil and eye-relief was very forgiving on the Steiner 1-4x as well. I was also impressed with Kahles new tactical line of rifle optics, especially the weight and features. I believe they had a 1-6x as well. Maybe it was covered already. |
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Ok Jim, where is the Bushnell stuff you promised...it's been over a week!
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Ok Jim, where is the Bushnell stuff you promised...it's been over a week!
There are 4 left before Bushnell. Fortunately, most are short so probably only a week or so more. The Nikon today is #17 so there have been a great many of these mini reviews. They have turned out to be more work than I thought. I think you'll like the Bushnell though. It's a pretty good scope. All light optic stuff is. |
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<This thread is for reviews and specific questions ONLY. Please read the OP - Z>
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Hey Jim, what would that cost? That sounds like a heck of a scope with the VX-6 being a true 1x and the glass pretty good.
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Hey Jim, what would that cost? That sounds like a heck of a scope with the VX-6 being a true 1x and the glass pretty good.
Seems like I ought to have mentioned that. It is $800 before the custom shop. I am not sure what it will run after yet. I should know by mid - late next month. At that time they are sending me one for a full review with the mil reticle and mil knobs. |
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<This thread is for reviews and specific questions ONLY. Please read the OP - Z>
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any US Optics SN-4 users?
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Absolutely great thread Big Jim. Having just spent an hour reading it amazes me that all the high dollar manufactures are still trying to be an Aimpoint at 1X. In the event of electronic failure or a dead battery you have nothing. The technology employed by SWFA with their SS 1-4 and now 1-6 HD scopes is so much more versital and far more effective with a dead battery. I've put my Aimpoint up against my SWFA SS 1-4 HD in timed drills out to 200 yards and the SS scores slightly better. That ruby red tiny glow the manufactures are all pursuing seems to be a very expensive and less satisfactory solution to the ideal functionality of a low power variable combat optic. I've got over 5000 round down range with five different rifles shooting from 10 to 800 yards with my SWFA 1-4 HD and of this years offerings the only scopes that interest me are the new SWFA SS 1-6 HD and the Leupold 1-8. My issue with the other optics is not the quality but the design and price.
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What does Leupold's circle dot post reticle look like or is it the same as their circle dot?
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What does Leupold's circle dot post reticle look like or is it the same as their circle dot?
I did not see an example at Shot with this reticle and have not seen any picks online of it either. I suspect we will just have to wait and see on it. Certainly it is an interesting question of what such a reticle would look like. |
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Thank you BJF! This is an incredibly well put together thread.
Thorough and articulate description of the scopes in review. This should be bookmarked by anyone serious about getting good info on many low variable tac optics. |
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Wow.. nice work. I know that it takes a lot of time to do this type of stuff.. so thanks.
Awesome that you even placed it in a table so we know what pages to look at. |
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Dear BigJimFish,
Kind sir, could you see your way clear to emailing me that spreadsheet? I intend to massage it; add much more info, then re-post of course. Thanks very much for your work so far. |
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What are the prices on the available feature upgrades
Originally Posted By BigJimFish:
Leupold VX-6 1-6x update. Today I spoke with one of the Leupold reps regarding the VX-6 1-6x. This scope caught my eye at Shot by having a flash dot at a price point much lower than one can typically get this type of illumination. Its optics were also very good with regards to both clarity and field of view. The only rub was that it was not offered in a configuration with any ranging capability at all. I commiserated with the Leupold rep about this problem and he confided in me a secret (which I kept thank you very much, it wasn't easy for me). He told me that he had been working for some time to get a ranging capable reticle in this scope. He was not sure that it would happen, but promised to keep me informed if it did. That brings us to today. I received an e-mail from the rep announcing success, at least partially, on his part. The VX-6 1-6x will be able to be purchased, with the Firedot SPR reticle, as an option, through the Custom Shop. I have pictured this reticle below. It is a mil ladder reticle with a circle added and flash dot illumination. The Firedot SPR reticle: http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo73/BigJimFish/firedotsprreticle.jpg Leupold was pushing their Custom Shop a great deal at Shot this year, especially with regards to their CDS dial system. This is a dial system that can be engraved for your specific load. To be honest, I really hadn't paid that much attention to the Custom Shop literature as, in the past, you really didn't have much in the way of features you could change that mattered. Specifically, there usually was little or no reticle or adjustment choice. You could get the scope engraved or anodized, which might be great for a retirement gift, but that was about it. In the case of this VX-6, you will be able to add this mil ranging reticle and also change the adjustments to .1mil to match the reticle: quite an upgrade in functionality. To sum it all up, you will be able to get the VX-6 with a ranging mil reticle and mil adjustments. You will also be able to get an 8mil, one turn, zero stop, if you want it. This will all be through the Custom Shop only. I guess a cool anodizing job might be in order since you have to go custom anyway. Perhaps black with green fade and black splatter effect. |
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The voice of reason from the clinically insane.
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Can anyone tell me.. the IOR Valdada scopes with the CQB reticles... if your batteries die, can you see none, all (like the Burris MTAC), or some portion of the reticle as just black? Thanks.
Such as this one: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/514609/valdada-ior-tactical-rifle-scope-35mm-tube-15-8x-26mm-illuminated-cqb-bdc-reticle-matte-with-high-picatinny-style-rings I could not find the answer here: http://www.valdada.com/frequently-asked-questions |
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Both the IOR and the MTAC have reticles that are present without illumination. In both cases the reticle will appear black. Only red dot sights such as Aimpoints and EOtechs lack reticles in the absence of power. Both of sights you mentioned are magnified optics and not red dot sights. Both feature glass etched reticles that will be present batteries or not. With the one exception of the Kruger DTS (which is half red dot half magnified optic) I do not know of any red dot sights that feature variable magnification so if you are worried about a sight not working without power that has variable magnification you do not need to. All other sights with magnification will have reticles visible without power. (Incidentally, the DTS does have a reticle visible without batteries from 2-8x just not at 1x.)
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Can I get a contact name for custom vx-6. Trent at Leupold says it can not be done.
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The voice of reason from the clinically insane.
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