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Posted: 1/6/2009 8:40:24 AM EDT
Just saw the Weaver Classic Extreme 1.5-4.5 x 24 w/illum reticle for $250.00 at Natchez. I'd buy one, but I live in AL.
Link Posted: 1/6/2009 8:47:28 AM EDT
[#1]
vewwy tempted...

These any good?

Weaver Classic Extreme 2.5-10X56 30mm Tube Illuminated German #4 Reticle
Reg $926.88
Sale $269.95

Mike
Link Posted: 1/6/2009 10:01:18 AM EDT
[#2]
im considering the Millet DMS.  it would be around $230 shipped.

so i am interested in how these scopes compare to the DMS.
Link Posted: 1/6/2009 11:36:42 AM EDT
[#3]
Any thoughts on the Weaver Classic Extreme lineup?
Link Posted: 1/6/2009 4:08:37 PM EDT
[#4]
I grabbed a 2.5-10x50 Extreme with the illum.German #4 today.  I work in a gun shop that carries Weaver scopes.  The glass is very clear/bright.  This is a really good scope for $259. I can't get one this cheap through the store.
Link Posted: 1/7/2009 3:47:00 PM EDT
[#5]
Thanks for heads up, in like Flynn!

1.5-4.5x24mm BTW
Link Posted: 1/7/2009 3:49:44 PM EDT
[#6]
I am in for 2, both the 24mm and 50mm with the #4 reticle.
Link Posted: 1/8/2009 1:54:11 AM EDT
[#7]
I ordered one of the 1.5-4.5x with the German illuminated #4 reticle.  I am going to put it on my Bushmaster A2 using an ARMS #2 mount and their #22 QD rings.
This is an exellent scope, and a steal at $249!
Link Posted: 1/8/2009 2:24:40 AM EDT
[#8]
are the dots on these visible during the day? thanks
Link Posted: 1/8/2009 3:10:42 AM EDT
[#9]
That's a HUGE discount.  There has to be a reason for it . . .
Link Posted: 1/8/2009 3:33:13 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
That's a HUGE discount.  There has to be a reason for it . . .


The descriptions say "new for 2007", so I assume they have new models coming out...

Mike
Link Posted: 1/8/2009 5:54:53 AM EDT
[#11]




Thanks.
Link Posted: 1/8/2009 8:10:20 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
That's a HUGE discount.  There has to be a reason for it . . .


The descriptions say "new for 2007", so I assume they have new models coming out...

Mike



I believe this is probably the case since SWFA doesn't even list them on their site any more.  Too bad, from what I hear they were very good scopes for the money.  Quite popular with the 3-gun guys.  
Link Posted: 1/8/2009 8:22:44 AM EDT
[#13]
These were good scopes for $400, so I'd imagine they're a great value at under $300.

Weaver's Glass is good to go. Japanese lenses I believe.
Link Posted: 1/8/2009 8:54:49 AM EDT
[#14]
Weaver scopes i hd and have are good to go
Link Posted: 1/8/2009 11:50:13 AM EDT
[#15]
I gave in as well and ordered the German #4

Can't beat the $266 shipped when it retails for $450 at other places
Weaver

ETA: Prices just went up $20 for both the 1.5-4.5x24mm
Link Posted: 1/8/2009 2:19:10 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
vewwy tempted...

These any good?

Weaver Classic Extreme 2.5-10X56 30mm Tube Illuminated German #4 Reticle
Reg $926.88
Sale $269.95

Mike


Can you post a link to this one?

Thanks
Wes
Link Posted: 1/8/2009 2:24:29 PM EDT
[#17]
2.5-10x56 30mm

Price went up $20 also.
Link Posted: 1/8/2009 4:20:16 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
2.5-10x56 30mm

Price went up $20 also.


'glad I got one of those this morning.
Link Posted: 1/9/2009 6:39:52 PM EDT
[#19]
I got mine (1.5-4.5x24) today, I must say I am impressed with it so far, especially for the money.  The glass is bright and clear and the build quality seems to be very solid.
Link Posted: 1/9/2009 8:21:25 PM EDT
[#20]
Ordered the 2.5-10X50 on the 7th and received it earlier today.  My first quality scope and I am very pleased with it. The glass is very clear.  My invoice had the scopes original price at $878.66 and I paid $259.95.  One hell of a deal!  Now I'm just trying to find the right butler creek flip covers for it.
Link Posted: 1/9/2009 8:47:35 PM EDT
[#21]
Illumination is NOT day time visible.


My 2.5-10x 56mm arrived today.


But I am pleased with the illumination. I want night-time illumination. On setting 2, it is very faint, the illumination is within the thickness of the crosshair as a tiny speck. When cranked up to 8-10, it becomes a dot about the size of the crosshair intersection. A little blooming in darkness. Higher settings are meant for dawn.dusk. Does not overpower in any way which is perfect for low light situations.


If you want day-time illumination, this is NOT the scope for you. Get an Accupoint and you'll have a triangle shaped sun for your reticle. Got to love Trijicon, they are BRIGHT.



Link Posted: 1/9/2009 10:06:25 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
I got mine (1.5-4.5x24) today, I must say I am impressed with it so far, especially for the money.  The glass is bright and clear and the build quality seems to be very solid.



Do you have any pics of the reticle?
Link Posted: 1/10/2009 9:15:15 AM EDT
[#23]
No pics of the reticle, will try to do it for you though.  

Here is a link to show what style the reticle is...
1.5-4.5x24  German #4


Link Posted: 1/10/2009 9:35:39 AM EDT
[#24]
Both mine are in, I bought the 1.5x4.5 and the 2.5x10x50. I also have a Bushnell 4200 1.25X4 sitting at Cabela's waiting to be picked up. I might not keep the Bushnell but I will compare it with the Weaver before making up my mind. The Weaver classic extreme seems good to go. The reticle looks unlike the above link, it is a German #4 however.   The comparable Bushnell just went up a hundred bucks at Cabela's, I am sure happy about jumping on the Natchez Email I got.
Link Posted: 1/10/2009 2:11:41 PM EDT
[#25]
He is right that the reticle image in the link is not exact, but close.  The actual reticle has the heavy portion of the 'duplex' extending in closer to the crosshair center.  This is the same style, just not the exact measurements.
Link Posted: 1/10/2009 4:59:29 PM EDT
[#26]
O.K folks who waited for the price to to skyrocket $20 Bucks feast your eyes on the Weaver Extreme. First pic is the 2.5X10X50 view

Link Posted: 1/12/2009 2:44:33 PM EDT
[#27]
Mine came on the UPS truck this evening.  I really like this scope.  I have already mounted it on my Bushmaster.  The mount is an ARMS #2, the rings are ARMS #21 STANAG.
Link Posted: 1/12/2009 3:26:49 PM EDT
[#28]
I ordered one after the $20 price increase 2.5x10x56MM  with Duel X . What concerns me is the weight 25 os? Oh well for $289.00 what the heck
Link Posted: 1/12/2009 7:06:20 PM EDT
[#29]
What's the difference between 50mm and 56mm , is it just brighter ?  And weighs 2 oz more.  

Sure is heavy .
Link Posted: 1/12/2009 9:07:47 PM EDT
[#30]
The difference is 6mm


6mm on diameter equates to quite a bit more lens surface. The most important factor in brightness is glass/polish/coatings quality. The better the glass, the better they are polished, the better the coatings - the more light. I've had 24mm objectives that were brighter than 40mm objectives due to the superior glass.


With the 56mm objective, you can still have a 5.6mm exit pupil at 10x. Which helps YOU see as much of the light that's coming out of that scope as possible. At 6x, it's putting out 9.3mm exit pupil which is larger than your pupil can dilate.


Lens quality is pretty good. I'd put it on par with the Nikon Monarch line or Bushnell 4200. It's around there. It's not high end quality like Zeiss or IOR optical quality, but it is a definite step up from scopes like the Burris FFII, Super Sniper, Leupold VX II ....


Link Posted: 1/13/2009 11:59:23 AM EDT
[#31]
Mine came today. 2.5x10x50. Slightly smaller than I thought. I played with while waiting to pick up wifey from the doc. Keep in mind that I have never actually bought a scope before (have mostly cheap Tascnells that came on used guns, and one Nikon Pro Staff that came on a .22). Do have a couple of Aimpoints. This was a very sharp and bright scope IMHO. I have a feeling that the other scopes will be jealous....lol There was a little brassing on the battery cover. Hmmmm. And the box is pretty cheap looking for what was selling for $569.99 2 weeks ago at NatchezSS. Hmmmm. Now to buy mounts and flip up caps. I MIGHT buy another one.
Link Posted: 1/13/2009 1:48:57 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Mine came on the UPS truck this evening.  I really like this scope.  I have already mounted it on my Bushmaster.  The mount is an ARMS #2, the rings are ARMS #21 STANAG.
http://www.myhostedpics.com/images/Mannlicher/weaverona2close.jpg


I sure like this setup.  I just might scope my goverment carbine instead of placing the Weaver Extreme on a dangerous game bolt gun.  Have you used the carry handle adapter and Stanag rings already?
Link Posted: 1/13/2009 2:47:13 PM EDT
[#33]
I just got suckered in mean ordered mine.

Now I have to figure out an affordable flat top mounting unit.
Link Posted: 1/13/2009 3:05:37 PM EDT
[#34]
has anyone ever tested out the 2.5-10x50 yet? Does it hole well?
Link Posted: 1/13/2009 6:57:36 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
vewwy tempted...

These any good?

Weaver Classic Extreme 2.5-10X56 30mm Tube Illuminated German #4 Reticle
Reg $926.88
Sale $269.95

Mike


Who the heck is trying to sell those scopes for $926.88 cents?  Are there that many suckers out there? Optic zone has that one for $569.00 I was thinking of buying from them untill I ran into the sale at Nachez ????? I paid 289.00
Link Posted: 1/14/2009 11:27:09 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Mine came on the UPS truck this evening.  I really like this scope.  I have already mounted it on my Bushmaster.  The mount is an ARMS #2, the rings are ARMS #21 STANAG.
http://www.myhostedpics.com/images/Mannlicher/weaverona2close.jpg


I sure like this setup.  I just might scope my goverment carbine instead of placing the Weaver Extreme on a dangerous game bolt gun.  Have you used the carry handle adapter and Stanag rings already?



This is my first go'round with scoping a carry handle AR.  I have used ARMS products though on a couple of flat tops, as well as on my M1A rifle.
Link Posted: 1/14/2009 12:53:05 PM EDT
[#37]
Got my German #4 1.5-4.5x24 Classic Extreme today.

Lens is much clearer and brighter than my Millet DMS-1 and without the fishbowl effect...!!! This alone makes it a steal at the sale price. The exit pupil seems to be larger than the DMS-1. The sweet spot had more room on 4.5X. Very well worth the extra money over the DMS-1 (still not a bad scope for the money). The Weaver is made in Japan vs China for the DMS-1.

The adjustment turrets have well defined clicks and audible vs the DMS-1 which did not have defined clicks. The 1/4 MOA of the Weaver allows more precision than DMS-1's 1/2 MOA.

My red dot on max setting was actually 95% visible in the sunlight, only getting washed out against very bright white backgrounds. The DMS-1's reticle would be washed instantly in the sun.

The eye bell is much shorter, allowing me to position the scope in the right spot for me to get proper eye relief. The DMS-1 mounted all the way forward was still to close for me to get proper eye relief.

The power ring on the Weaver has a shorter and lighter from 1.5x to 4.5x (about 180º), much faster to changer power . My DMS-1's power ring has a long and stiff adjustment (about 270º).

Couple of quick pics.
1.5X


4.5X




Millet

Link Posted: 1/14/2009 2:15:39 PM EDT
[#38]
Weavers new top of the line optics just showed up on the webpage. There are some ill. reticles in the lineup. http://www.weaveroptics.com/optics/riflescopes/superslam.aspx
Link Posted: 1/16/2009 3:46:06 PM EDT
[#39]
Got my German #4 1.5-4.5x24 also. Optically, definitely superior to the DMS-1 and at least as good as the Bushnell 4200, possibly better. Very well built and surprisingly compact.
Link Posted: 1/19/2009 4:01:31 PM EDT
[#40]
I just snatched a 1.5-4.5x myself - I think this is going to prove to be a really good deal.

Hey, anybody purchase flip-ups for them yet? If so, can you tell me what sizes you bought?
Link Posted: 1/20/2009 2:40:32 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
I just snatched a 1.5-4.5x myself - I think this is going to prove to be a really good deal.

Hey, anybody purchase flip-ups for them yet? If so, can you tell me what sizes you bought?


I also need to know what size flip caps
Link Posted: 1/20/2009 4:46:45 PM EDT
[#42]
I too picked a 1.5x4.5 up. sadly since I am one the other side of the planet it will be a few months until I can play with it. Hopefully by then all of y'all will know the proper cap sizes and anything else that needs to be worked out.

I have high expectations, as I have always been pleased with Weaver in the past for optics under the Leupold level.
Link Posted: 1/20/2009 5:31:05 PM EDT
[#43]
I couldn't resist so I ordered a 2.5x10 with the German reticle. I'm going to go broke reading these forums! No wait, I'm already broke.
Link Posted: 1/20/2009 6:25:06 PM EDT
[#44]
If you look up these scopes on MidwayUSA's site it shows cap size.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 4:02:19 AM EDT
[#45]
I have a one of these as well - it's been a great scope so far.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 11:40:42 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
If you look up these scopes on MidwayUSA's site it shows cap size.


Ah, cool. Thanks!

Link Posted: 1/21/2009 11:01:00 PM EDT
[#47]
Anyone know how the battery life is on these and what type they use?
Looks like a great hunting scope for my 6.8.
Link Posted: 1/22/2009 1:56:40 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
Anyone know how the battery life is on these and what type they use?
Looks like a great hunting scope for my 6.8.


It uses CR2032

I left mine on for 24hrs on setting 7 out of 11 and was still going on strong.

it was still visible when pointing directly at a lamp on setting 11, I didn't notice a decrease in brightness.
Link Posted: 1/23/2009 1:44:01 AM EDT
[#49]
Thanks, you pack of rat bastiges are DIRECTLY responsible for me having just ordered my SECOND Weaver Classic Extreme, this time a 1.5-4.5 (last week it was the 2.5-10x56!). Now, to go out back and route through my neighbor's trash for food scraps or perhaps some wood or cardboard to burn in the fireplace to warm up my Alpo Beef Stew for supper....... .....aw crap, it's only money, right?
R/OMC
Link Posted: 1/23/2009 10:47:17 AM EDT
[#50]
Ordered a 2.5-10x50mm #4 today. Thanks guys I have been looking for an excuse to get a 2-10 power.
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