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Posted: 9/5/2005 5:22:47 PM EDT
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A set of Troy sights is FAR superior.
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Posted: 9/5/2005 5:23:42 PM EDT
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I think you havent read enough of the site...
this would be an incredibly worthless idea. Here's why. You can see your iron sights right THROUGH the Aimpoint. You dont need them on top. You cant see irons through a magnified scope, so they are a little more valuable on top of the ACOG. But, the ones on top of the ACOG are nearly worthless, I have had one of those models for 5 years and the sight radius between the fron and rear sight are about as long as my S&W 442 snub nose revolver. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 5:32:42 PM EDT
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Like this?
 That is the J-Point, and here’s their website: www.jprifles.com/ There is also another brand called Docter Optic - I’ll let you research that. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 5:35:43 PM EDT
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I don't think it would offer any sort of advantage over what is already available. I have never thought very highly of the back-up iron sights on an ACOG, either. Both the ACOG and your concept have an effective sight radius less than that of the average size handgun. I would rather have to deploy a flip-up rear sight (or front, or both) or use the "dead" Aimpoint as a large rear ghost ring. Not trying to smash your idea down - just giving you the input you asked for. Someone else might think its great, I just dont see the necessity. Take care, Clint |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 5:36:40 PM EDT
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He's looking for BUIS on top of his Aimpoint. Why would he want/need a red dot on top of a red dot? |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 5:37:08 PM EDT
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He's talking about the iron sights on top of the TA01nsn model. Not the JPoint/Dr Optic on top of an ACOG. Puttin a dot site on top of a dot site makes even less sense that putting irons on top of them when you can use them through the Aimpoint. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 5:41:21 PM EDT
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Well, OK.
Some SEALS are finding it works great. Seems to make good sense to them. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 5:44:15 PM EDT
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Oh really, SEALs are putting DrOptic/JPoints on top of their Aimpoints? Do you know the difference between an Aimpoint and an ACOG? If you dont, you need to read some more yourself. If you do, please explain what putting one of these on top of a Aimpoint would accomplish. Be specific. 
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Posted: 9/5/2005 5:48:04 PM EDT
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Sheesh...whats with all the hostility?
I'll let Frogman be "specific." Go here: www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bin/tacticalubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=000977 |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 5:55:22 PM EDT
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No one is arguing the value of a Dr Optic on top of a magnified scope. Which is what Frogman is talking about and what you posted in the picture. I have two set ups similar to this myself. Did you read the initial question here? He is asking for a set of IRON sights on top of an AIMPOINT, not an ACOG. If you dont know why a JPoint/DrOptic would be useful on top of an ACOG, but not the Aimpoint, I dont know what to say.
I'll ask again, do you know the difference between an Aimpoint and an ACOG? If so, what advantage would a JPoint/DrOptic be on top of a Aimpoint. Be specific. 
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Posted: 9/5/2005 5:58:46 PM EDT
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BUIS closer to the barrel would be more difficult to damage, and if your aimpoint got knocked off it would affect your point of aim. As well as the other drawbacks already pointed out. Also the BUIS being closer to the barrel would make the bullet impact closer over a longer distance.
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Posted: 9/5/2005 6:00:31 PM EDT
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My read is Frogman is referring to the ACOG and the JPoint. Not Aimpoints or Eotechs!
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Posted: 9/5/2005 6:34:40 PM EDT
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There's a difference? Heaven's to Mergatroid! Yep, I misread the initial post - for some reason I got ACOG out of it. Shrugs...
BTW - nowhere in this post is the word “iron.”
I provided an option, albeit not exactly what he was looking for. Then again, he asked this:
Tell ya what, new-arguy. I’ve probably broken more ACOGs than you’ve ever held in your hands. That being said, this will be the last time I offer a guy an option in this POS Forum. Ya’ll just too damn smart for me. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 6:45:24 PM EDT
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Who would brag they have broken dozens and dozens of ACOGs? Some sort of crazed lunatic?
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Posted: 9/5/2005 6:47:05 PM EDT
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No need for BUIS's on an Aimpoint. Why? The Aimpoint tube itself is a sight tool. You can hit center mass @ 50yds all day with it.  C4 |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 6:53:30 PM EDT
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Its possible you broke more ACOGs than I have held in my hand, but it is very, very unlikely! Let me say that again, very unlikely.
 Had you read the initial post instead of trying to prove your point, or gone back to read it after trying to proove it even more, we'd have no problems. I know, I know, its my fault anyway. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 7:32:50 PM EDT
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Both the Aimpoint and EoTech can be used as plain 1x optics, albeit without an aiming mark. This is where the CQT has an advantage as there is a reticule at all times. Centering and guesttimating on a 1x optic would still eb better than than 2 bits of metal that cannot be adjusted set 4 inches apart.
I suppose you could get the objective lens etched with a big donut. Simon |
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Posted: 9/14/2005 6:59:10 PM EDT
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Sorry to bring this back to life, but I promised someone I would  
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Posted: 9/14/2005 7:08:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/14/2005 7:26:29 PM EDT
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I hope everyone takes it, even the bird, as a friendly jab... No offense is really intended.
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Posted: 9/15/2005 4:42:52 AM EDT
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I think I am offended! Somebody call a mod, oh wait NAG IS the mod.  C4 |
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Posted: 9/15/2005 5:05:15 AM EDT
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I usally don't like to post unless I am adding to the topic but I just need to know why can't people who simply misunderstood something just say so. All you need to say is "sorry, I misread what the topic was, my mistake" What's so hard about that? Why do people get all pissed at other people for something they messed up then try and state how qualified they are and call the site a POS. It amazes me, just be a man and say I was wrong.
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Posted: 9/15/2005 7:33:35 AM EDT
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 And that's all I got to say about that... |
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Posted: 9/15/2005 10:17:31 AM EDT
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Got any of those ACOGs you'd like to get rid of cheap? I wouldn't mind, really.....
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Posted: 9/15/2005 1:39:07 PM EDT
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More holier than thou comments from this thread and Forum.
Apparently, you neglected your reading lessons before you jumped on that high horse.
Well of course new-arguy. And fuck you too. No offense intended, of course. Edit: If you want to continue this with me (which I don't) take it to IM - I'm done in this Forum) |
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Posted: 9/15/2005 2:00:38 PM EDT
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Oh come on, those are replicas! I know, because I've looked at more ACOG replicas on ebay than you've balanced on your head! 
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Posted: 9/15/2005 2:29:55 PM EDT
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Backstop perhaps you want to offer your street creds before you start pissing all over the forum and one of the mods?
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Posted: 9/15/2005 2:37:22 PM EDT
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Backstop,
A simple "I misread the post" would be preferable. Instead you had to try to save face; all you really accomplished is to prove you can't admit when you were wrong. Thanks for the warning, btw; now we know exactlly what kind of person we are dealing with. |
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Posted: 9/15/2005 2:51:38 PM EDT
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IM dport.
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Posted: 9/15/2005 3:13:31 PM EDT
[#30]
As I suspected, despite your protests to the contrary, you most definitely are not done with this forum. |
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Posted: 9/15/2005 3:16:08 PM EDT
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I'll give myself a warning and apologize to backstop. I meant it to be in fun, but it didnt turn out that way. I'm sorry for having contributed in an inappropriate manner.
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Posted: 9/15/2005 3:16:40 PM EDT
[#32]
all done
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