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Maybe he wants to arm 9 relatives, come SHTF? Maybe he wants to sell them right before the next ban, and make some money? Maybe he shoots ALOT, and wears out/damages mags and wants to make sure he has a lifetime supply? |
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All together now... ZOMBIES! |
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Arm 9 relatives - ok, Im not going to. IMO Screw em, they can pay for their own rifles, mags, and ammo. Sell mags before a ban - I used to buy used USGI mags and refinish em. Sold on ebay for $20-25 each. Shoot ALOT - If you shoot enough to necessitate 100+ magazines and need more then god bless you. I envy you. But honestly IMO I dont think most people on this board that have over 100 mags (someone on this thread claims to have 300+ mags) plan on doing this. Most are stocking for WWIII or the "SHTF" day. Lets all hope we never need all these mags. I'll admit good to have if you do ever need em. IMO I only feel the need to have 30, I guess anyone with 100 mags has for the same reasons as I do, granted a bit more extreme though! |
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I am glad I am not related to you. |
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Hey I love my relatives. Ive told em all they should get a gun and some ammo. Most of my relatives were/always have had guns. For those that dont, Im not a friggin charity organization. If they dont want to heed my warnings and protect themselves, then screw em. Im not going to go out and buy 10 assault rifles, along with 20 mags for each gun, and god knows how much ammo. Some people here claim they have done this. To each their own. |
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That's all you really needed to say in the first place. |
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AMEN! Ive said that a few times. |
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The irony just kills me with that. |
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I have no idea exactly how many I have. I do have about 60 30rnd in my safe. every drawer in my house has a few and They are everywhere in my truck all total i have about 100 30 rndrs and 15 or so AK mags. I figure someday they may be hard to come by and if someone needs them i'll have a few extra. I try to buy a few here and there and prefer the teflon - w/green follower i.e D&H.
I don't know if there is a magic number on how many you should have per gun, but I would lean on the side of having plenty. They don't go bad if stored in a dry place.......... |
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I love my friends and family. I absolutely will arm them with whatever I dont immediately need. Their life is more important to me than mine... even if they didnt have the sense to prepare.
I had a business of doing just that. I wrote the mag refinishing thread in the mag forum.
It isnt how MUCH you shoot, but HOW you shoot. I dont just go to the range and put a few rounds down from the bench. I take tactical classes, and participate in competitions, like 3gun, whenever I can. My mags get dropped in the mud, stepped on, lost, damaged, etc... from USE. I have 20 mags I use for practice, that I keep in good working order. The other 80 are typically NIW, ready to be put in service. I subscribe to the 10 per rifle, and I want them put away for a long time.... I went through the 1994 ban, and I dont doubt it could happen again.
That's your opinion.... but I think you are wrong. Some of us are just "smart" and like to prepare for the future.
What's your point? |
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My point is most people here (myself included) have a need for a certain amount of mags. I see a need for 30 mags for my purposes, some people see a need for 100, some here see a need for 300 or more. Calm down, take a chill pill! |
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I'd laugh but I have ONE AR I have approx 50 Thirties and 30 Twenties. |
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What on EARTH, about my posts or anything I have said, leads you to think I am anything but calm? |
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Without detailing my personal collection figures, here's my take:
Minimum of 10 per rifle. This would allow for all mags to be in service and or a minimum of 7 loaded and ready with the remaining 3 stuck away for future use/replacement. At this level, it's wise to be looking for additional mags because these mags only cover current needs and meet no future needs. Fair figure for a proper weapon/magazine ratio: 1/2 again the weapon's value in magazines. ie, AR costs $900 and magazines run $9ea = 50 mags. IMHO, it's at this point a fella can sleep in peace @ night. Sly <---------- Still not sleeping good enough. |
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Where are you finding AR mags for 8.99? |
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Here is how I see the situation.
Who gives a shit what people think, keep stockpiling mags and ammo untill YOU FEEL YOU HAVE ENOUGH. I currently have 26 30rd mags loaded for SHTF, 1 10rd in the m4 for home defence, and 2 20rd mags for range shooting with the varminter and match rifle. As far as stripper clips go, I have somewhere around 200 of them loaded and ready to go. |
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You're just pissed you are in a ban state........you need to let the free people be free and buy 87mags if they want to |
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My post count is 187 |
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I haven't seen $8.99, but one can get USGIs, new, for $9.99, here: 44mag.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CP30 |
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They were $8.99 last week. |
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Thanks for the link guys. Hopefully they'll still be that price when I get on my feet and have some money.
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I was wondering when the magic "87" would pop up.
As somebody else said here, "These are the good old days, so act accordingly." Too bad it's not the good old days for ammo as well. And by the way, there seems to be a bit of magazine porn going on in this thread. Groucho |
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26 thirties..........want more, will get more. They are cheap now........might not be cheap when the next ban hits....and one will hit.........probably in 3 years.....I'm stockpiling potential ban items.....ar lowers, mags, etc....
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I just got 24 more (hopefully). So I just doubled my mag inventory basically.
Now to stock up on lowers, P90 mags and glock/sig/hk mags |
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IM sent. |
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I have just over 40 30's and 12 20's.
I'll get more. Why? Because I can WIZZO |
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If you expect to use several thousand rounds and a hundred plus mags during SHTF, you either must be Chuck Norris, Bruce Lee, Wyatt Earp and Col. Cooper combined. Or part of a highly trained suburban commando unit tasked with multiple extraction/rescue missions.
I hate to break this to you, but you will be dead long before you get through a fifth of that stash. You can only hold off so many attackers for so long. No matter how good you are. Especially if you are substantially outnumbered. For flimsy AR mags, 20 per rifle is a good number. But there has to be a cutoff, if you have 10 ARs, you don't need 200 mags. Something steel like AK, FAL or M1, 10 per rifle. I have some steel AR mags, British I think, I could use these as range mags till the end of the world. Plus with all the other bans likely to take place, there will be less cheap ammo to blast anyway. So your mags will just sit around waiting to be stolen or destroyed in a house fire. But go nuts buying them, I don't care. However, it did piss me off during the ban that so many people were hoarding driving prices up. |
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Wow. Almost everything you said was just wrong. |
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30 30 rd teflon finished GI
4 30 rd pre-ban Colt 1 30 rd HK 6 20 rd Colt (missing in storage) I still need about 45 more 30 rd mags for the 20 mag per gun rule. I have 3 ARs and 1 AUG carbine (with M16 NATO mag conversion). If I ever get a mag adapter for my Galil then I need another 20 more. |
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They are "wimpy" ? You mean, wimpy, as in how they "feel" to you... or "wimpy" as in through typical hard use - they fail or malfunction? You do realize, function, under designed use, is all that matters in a mag? |
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Only on the internet could one make fun of the statement that you will not need more than 600 rounds for an AR in the SHTF.
You are at 2-3x what a modern infantry man carries and 5 to 6x what they would have caried 40 to 50 years ago. If you are alone, even a third rate fire team from somalia will out flank you and set your house on fire and shoot you when you flee. If society completely collapses and a couple thousand of your neighbors try to raid your house for food, you will die. Deal with it. At most, prepare for a seven day absence of services and supplies. And then your biggest worry is not being shot by the government when they show up to restore law and order heavily armed in force. If I think your paranoid, you are really f'ng out there. I have a loaded 12 AR magazine chest pouch and a kevlar vest in the closet next to me. BTW, I also assume you have some other long arms with at least a couple hundreds rounds between them. |
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Consider for a moment that not all of us have this quantity for "SHTF". Maybe some of us buy ammo in bulk and buy it while it's cheap rather than buy only "what we need", when we need it. Maybe the same applies to mags - it's partially done as an investment while prices are low. Maybe both of the above are true and in addition, it's a hobby which explains the large collections of rifles. I don't even own a LBV, and my only camo is what I use for hunting (although I'll admit, it's old surplus Woodland BDU's). Luckily, I don't have thousands of neighbors. And yes, I have several thousand rounds and dozens of mags both for my AK's and my FAL. |
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If you have 1 AR-15 and 1 mag your ok in my book , but fellows , before our next election just in case get them while you can , you can never have enought
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I have several reasons for stockpiling mags. 1) they do get damaged, 2) I wanted a lifetime supply in case of a ban, 3) You can always sell them for a profit later, just like any other item. I don't have any Rambo fantasies of holding off a frigging squad by myself or anything.
Or if you're like some folk who plan to arm neighbors/family members, having 10-20 mags per rifle isn't such a bad idea. Not that you could use them all yourself before becoming a casualty (barring some miracle), but with 3-5 people in your dwelling also armed, 20 loaded mags could go pretty quickly. (unless you had old women reloading the mags which run dry, ala old western movies...). |
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A little OCD? |
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I am only referring to the SHTF needs. I definitely have more than 600 rounds of .223. Just keep in mind what is the point.
Also, for your I am going to be rich off of preban mags, the next ban will prohibit all transfers. Look at this post, who is going to be buying all your surplus mags between the time the ban is approved and it goes into effect. I think most serious gun nuts (myself included) will already have plenty. For my personal needs in case of a ban, my steel mags plus a few aluminum beater mags will take care of all my range needs. The others will stay mostly unused. For a civilian, the only way to wear out mags in any great number is to be in 3 gun competition or take a lot of training classes. |
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I have 28 USGI 30 rounders and 2 curved 20 rounders. That is plenty for me.
One of my buddies has tons of magazines for rifles he doesn't even own yet, I think 50 or so g3 mags. |
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I don't know about you, but I lived in MD, and made a ton of sales of mags right before they banned 30-rd mags (even though you could still buy them out of state and bring them in)...people were just buying them like crazy. Never saw anything like it. You're right that most serious shooters will already have enough, but I bet there's plenty of people who who would still buy... Even I ran into this problem. I had maybe 20 mags, the AWB passed. I figured I'm okay with 20. But I ended up buying another rifle, and so needed more mags. I had to pay a premium for them. If I'd had the foresight to really stock up on them when they were $6 for NIW mags...I paid $22-24 each instead. I'm not making that mistake again. We can go back and forth all day about it, but in the end, I think "better to have them and not need them than to not have". I can always sell off excess mags...even if a total transfer ban passes, people will still want mags. They'll do what they have to get them regardless of what some DC idiot says. |
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Funny I found this thread I was in the process of going through some gear and decided to see how many I had. 60 USGI 30 rounders and 20, 20 rounders for 4 AR's.
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