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Posted: 5/14/2005 2:17:48 PM EDT
EDIT: UPDATED PICS
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As usual, you can click the pics for a larger version.


http://storage.w0lf.org/guns/23May05/IMAG0035_small.jpg

http://storage.w0lf.org/guns/23May05/IMAG0024_small.jpg

http://storage.w0lf.org/guns/23May05/IMAG0019_small.jpg

Here are some new mugshots of my rifle, showing of my two newest additions: the TA11E ACOG that I got from Mike at CS Gunworks (Thanks!) and a bipod from GG&G.

http://storage.w0lf.org/guns/23May05/IMAG0026_small.jpg

This is my new GG&G tactical bipod, with the legs locked and deployed.

http://storage.w0lf.org/guns/23May05/IMAG0028_small.jpg

GG&G Bipod with the legs folded.

http://storage.w0lf.org/guns/23May05/IMAG0006_small.jpg

My new ACOG, the TA11E. It's mounted on an ARMS 19S mount, which I am also pleased with. I love it already.

http://storage.w0lf.org/guns/23May05/IMAG0037_small.jpg

More TA11E ACOG and ARMS 19S goodness.

http://storage.w0lf.org/guns/23May05/IMAG0036_small.jpg

Someone was asking for a picture of the YHM sling loop for attaching the Troy (or any H&K snap) sling. Here's mine. It's also a good picture of the LMT stock.



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This is a brief summary of the modifications I performed on my rifle today. You can click on the pics for larger images.

http://storage.w0lf.org/guns/IMAG0002_small.jpg

Before the madness started, my rifle was pretty much stock Bushmaster. It left the factory as a 16" post-ban .308 flat top carbine with an A2 stock.


http://storage.w0lf.org/guns/IMAG0037_small.jpg

Now, it sports a free floating rail, the RS2 from SWS (Thanks, sniperx!) fit for my Bushmaster. It was the first one installed on a Bushmaster carbine. The new collapsible stock is the LMT SOPMOD Buttstock which I got from G&R Tactical (Thanks, C4iGrant!). The only thing I am waiting for is a new buffer tube from Slash before I can try this new combo out.


http://storage.w0lf.org/guns/IMAG0038_small.jpg

Mounted up front is the new .308 Vortex flash hider from Smith Enterprises.


http://storage.w0lf.org/guns/IMAG0039_small.jpg

It is also sporting some rail covers from Tango Down. The front BUIS is the Mangonel from DPMS. With it mounted on the forward part of the rail, I can cowitness through the Aimpoint.

http://storage.w0lf.org/guns/IMAG0040_small.jpg

Up top is the venerable Aimpoint ML2, soon to be replaced by a TA11E ACOG. The BUIS is a ARMS #40. The grip has been replaced with the more comfortable and infinately more useful Tango Down Battlegrip. The H&K style sling plate is from Yankee Hill.

http://storage.w0lf.org/guns/IMAG0045_small.jpg

This shot gives a good overall picture of the entire rifle.

Link Posted: 5/14/2005 2:46:54 PM EDT
[#1]
That is the best looking Bushy .308 that I have seen! You should be very proud of her.
Link Posted: 5/14/2005 11:18:18 PM EDT
[#2]
Hi JWOLF,  What is that baby weight? Over 9 lbs?
Link Posted: 5/14/2005 11:37:21 PM EDT
[#3]
cool.
Link Posted: 5/15/2005 2:09:15 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Hi JWOLF,  What is that baby weight? Over 9 lbs?



Haven't weighed her yet, but it's not light
Link Posted: 5/15/2005 2:48:30 AM EDT
[#5]
Very nice.  What iron sights are you using and how do you like them?
Link Posted: 5/15/2005 2:57:11 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Very nice.  What iron sights are you using and how do you like them?



The front is a DPMS Mangonel, which I am not crazy about. The large thumbscrew has a tendancy to back out under rapid fire. Also, the two different heights drive me crazy when I need to deploy the irons. It seems it always locks into the first slot, designed for the gas block. I would mount it on the gas block, but it doesn't seem to agree with the height of the Bushmaster gas-block, thus it is mounted on the rail.

The rear is the #40 unit from ARMS.

I am seriously considering replacing the rear with a solid, non-flip up unit from LMT or LaRue and changing the front to a simpler unit like the one from Yankee Hill.
Link Posted: 5/15/2005 4:58:59 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Hi JWOLF,  What is that baby weight? Over 9 lbs?



Just dropped her on the bathroom scale (not scientific) and it showed 10.5lbs with a full mag and everything shown in the picture (Aimpoint, etc)
Link Posted: 5/16/2005 7:12:18 AM EDT
[#8]
Jwolf,  I went to the SWS web site looking for that free floating rail  you have and im not sure on which one you have. I also have a 16 inch bushy 308 like your and would like to put that  free floating rail on. Could you please post a direct link to the rail?   Thanks
Link Posted: 5/16/2005 7:16:09 AM EDT
[#9]
Link Posted: 5/16/2005 1:21:59 PM EDT
[#10]
looks great
Link Posted: 5/16/2005 2:18:51 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
looks great



Thanks to everyone who likes the looks.

I'll post updates in this thread when I put the ACOG on.

I think when the Tango Down bipod is available I'll be a lot closer to being done, but as many have pointed out, you're never done...
Link Posted: 5/16/2005 3:50:55 PM EDT
[#12]
is the mag release button on both sides or this side only
and what is that thing infront of the trigger gueard

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/zaq12wsx/IMAG0040_web.jpg
Link Posted: 5/16/2005 3:53:28 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
is the mag release button on both sides or this side only
and what is that thing infront of the trigger gueard

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/zaq12wsx/IMAG0040_web.jpg


bottom arrow is the bolt release
top is the mag release on both sides
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 6:39:23 PM EDT
[#14]
Bump for UPDATED pics of ACOG and bipod.
Link Posted: 5/28/2005 8:48:26 PM EDT
[#15]
jwolf - This is a great looking set-up!  Do you have a range report for us?  If she runs as slick as she looks, I'd like to copy it.  Did you install the FF rail or did sniperx do the work?  The pictures and instructions at SWS look complicated for a weekend hack like myself (Sniperx, do you offer installation service?).  I thought the SWS site indicated that Tango Down covers won't fit on their carbine rails, did this change?  Last, did you get the buffer and new tube from Slash?  Thanks for posting all of the great pics.

Wolverine93
Link Posted: 5/29/2005 4:00:04 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
jwolf - This is a great looking set-up!  



Thanks!


Quoted:
Did you install the FF rail or did sniperx do the work?  The pictures and instructions at SWS look complicated for a weekend hack like myself (Sniperx, do you offer installation service?).



sniperx installed the tube for me. On their website they mention free installation if you send in your upper. I thought it would have been too hard to install it myself. I'm glad he was able to take care of it for me.


Quoted:
I thought the SWS site indicated that Tango Down covers won't fit on their carbine rails, did this change?



They were tight but they fit OK. They certainly didn't slide right on, but I used a small block of wood and a mallet to coax them into place. Once they go on once, they are easier to take on on and off.


Quoted:
Last, did you get the buffer and new tube from Slash?



Yes. It looks great! The factory buffer would have been WAY too long to fit in the short stock. I will definately update this thread with a range report as soon as I get out there. Hopefully tomorrow

Link Posted: 6/11/2005 7:41:35 AM EDT
[#17]
jwolf, any range time/report?  Is your barrel chrome lined like Bushmaster's AR-15 barrels?

Wolverine93
Link Posted: 6/11/2005 12:53:46 PM EDT
[#18]
VERY NICE!!! I am considering a 0.308 carbine, and wondered about the collapsible stock as an option vice the skeleton stock offered by Bushmaster.  Thanks for showing how and who can help. Enjoy.
Link Posted: 6/11/2005 1:00:19 PM EDT
[#19]
Link Posted: 6/11/2005 6:58:42 PM EDT
[#20]
All I have to say is, holy shit that's sweet!!! I gotta get a rail for my 20" Bushy 308 (funds are coming soon!!) Can you IM Slash's contact info to me? I'd like to get one of his buffers so I can lose the A1 stock I have on my rifle and put an VLTOR Clubfoot carbine stock on her (to match my AR15). Thanks..

-sc
Link Posted: 6/12/2005 6:23:49 AM EDT
[#21]
I am thinking about getting the same one too. Would you mind telling me how much you have paid? Just a ballpark would be great. I need to get my requisition approved by my wife. *cry

Thanks.

Also, somebody said the .308 may kick a lot more. Is it true?
Link Posted: 6/14/2005 12:17:56 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
All I have to say is, holy shit that's sweet!!! I gotta get a rail for my 20" Bushy 308 (funds are coming soon!!) Can you IM Slash's contact info to me? I'd like to get one of his buffers so I can lose the A1 stock I have on my rifle and put an VLTOR Clubfoot carbine stock on her (to match my AR15). Thanks..

-sc




Thread regarding Slash's buffers

I love the VLOTRs, but the reason I went with the LMT was the rubber recoil pad. It seemed more 'compatible' with the .308.
Link Posted: 6/14/2005 12:39:02 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
I am thinking about getting the same one too. Would you mind telling me how much you have paid? Just a ballpark would be great. I need to get my requisition approved by my wife. *cry

Thanks.

Also, somebody said the .308 may kick a lot more. Is it true?



Rifle - $1500 at a gun show last August.
ARMS #40 Rear BUIS - $100 at gun show
DPMS Mangonel Front BUIS - $95 at gun show (you can probably find a much better deal on both these BUIS)
LMT Crane stock kit - $245 from G&R Tactical (C4iGrant here on the fourms)
Tango Down Rail Covers (3x) - $45 Also from G&R
Tango Down Battle Grip - $30 Also from G&R
Vortex Flash Hider (.308) - $80 Also from G&R
Free Floating RS2 Rail (the AR10 model fits the Bushmaster as well) - $345 from Art at SWS (sniperx on the forums)
Custom Stainless Steel Buffer Tube - $80 from Slash
GG&G Bipod - $139 from their website
TA11E ACOG - from Mike at CS Gunworks


Figure around $2500 (+ whatever optic you decide) on will get you a rifle looking exactly like mine.

The recoil is not that bad at all. The rubber plate on the LMT stock soaks up the recoil quite nicely. Even before that, the Bushy didn't kick all that much. I've been told it was the tamest shooting .308 AR they've shot by numerous people who shot my rifle at the range.
Link Posted: 6/14/2005 12:46:39 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
jwolf, any range time/report?  Is your barrel chrome lined like Bushmaster's AR-15 barrels?

Wolverine93




I got some range time in this past weekend. I was going to make a new thread with pictures as soon as I had time, but I will summarize for now.

It shoots great!!!

I put 250 rounds of 168gr BTHP through it without a single hiccup. This is a real testament to Slash's stainless buffer. Needless to say, I was very impressed with the entire package. I shot ~2.5MOA at 100yds, though a more talented shooter could probably have achieved much better results. I shot from prone (using the bipod) and standing and the rifle handled great.

Everything performed flawlessly and exceeded my expectations! I can't wait to return this weekend with more ammo.

Regarding whether or not it has a chrome lined barrel; no it does not. I didn't find a problem with this when I first got the rifle, nor do I see it as one now, with roughly 1200 rounds through it.
Link Posted: 6/14/2005 2:00:13 PM EDT
[#25]
Jwolf,

Did you use a standard carbine buffer spring or did you have to cut coils off the rifle length spring. My 20" goes out to Art at SWS this week to get the rail done and I've got one of Slash's buffers en route. Thanks....

-sc
Link Posted: 6/14/2005 7:03:57 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Jwolf,

Did you use a standard carbine buffer spring or did you have to cut coils off the rifle length spring. My 20" goes out to Art at SWS this week to get the rail done and I've got one of Slash's buffers en route. Thanks....

-sc



I cut coils off the rifle length spring per Slash's instructions. I cut it down to ~20 coils.
Link Posted: 6/21/2005 7:59:46 PM EDT
[#27]
Bump for papertiger
Link Posted: 7/19/2005 5:06:47 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:


Also, somebody said the .308 may kick a lot more. Is it true?



It's not all that bad.  I have a BAR-10A2 with 16" barrel and Izzy muzzle brake.  It does kick more than a .223.  When compared to my accurized M1A, a 120 round range session with my Bushmaster is about as tiring as a 60 round session with my M1A.

Link Posted: 8/10/2005 12:27:35 PM EDT
[#29]
For $2500 plus optics - I sure hope that 2.5 MOA is you and not the rifle. Your choice of ammo is good, 168 HPBTs are great in the 308, but could you bench it with a vise or a very experienced shooter so we can get an idea of what the Bushy can do (I want to buy one)
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:51:09 PM EDT
[#30]
Take into account that he is firing a 16 in barrel.  the most accurate barrel for the .308 is 20 in.   he is also firing a semi auto, carbine.  this gun is not supposed to be a sniper rifle.  This gun is designed to be your best friend when you kick in a door and actually want the bad guy to go down.
Link Posted: 9/2/2005 3:47:48 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
Take into account that he is firing a 16 in barrel.  the most accurate barrel for the .308 is 20 in.   he is also firing a semi auto, carbine.  this gun is not supposed to be a sniper rifle.  This gun is designed to be your best friend when you kick in a door and actually want the bad guy to go down.




+1


I'm looking at getting a similar set-up when I get back from this shit-hole known as Kuwait...
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