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Posted: 5/12/2005 7:55:37 AM EDT
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Working; thanks! |
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Posted: 5/12/2005 8:56:57 AM EDT
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I would like to hear different opinions as well.......same decision I am trying to make
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Posted: 5/12/2005 9:16:11 AM EDT
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Because these two barrels are really apples and oranges. Corey EDITED to add: Sorry. My misunderstanding. I thought you were referring to ADCO's Giffman group purchase barrel. 
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Posted: 5/12/2005 9:49:17 AM EDT
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i think the barrels are exactly the same, both from White Oak and 1-7 twist with Wylde chamber.....Denny's is profiled a little lighter and ADCOs is Fluted under handguards, what I would love to know is after 60-75 shots of continuous fire which one held its accuracy better?
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Posted: 5/12/2005 9:51:21 AM EDT
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I would have to vote for both...they both produce high quality weapons..that get the job done.
The only consideration that would tip the scales either way...is weight. |
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Posted: 5/12/2005 9:59:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/12/2005 9:59:44 AM EDT
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Ditto |
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Posted: 5/12/2005 10:17:10 AM EDT
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Is Denny's barrel a little on the light side for SS? For example, as compared to the profile of a Lilja Recce barrel?
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Posted: 5/12/2005 10:24:09 AM EDT
[#9]
woo hoo for Denny's barrel.
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Posted: 5/12/2005 11:13:05 AM EDT
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If you want a light barrel that will be accurate under moderate use buy from Denny.
If you want a heavier barrel which will maintain accuracy under continued use - buy my design. You have the best of both worlds between the two. Decide what you "need", then buy what you "want". |
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Posted: 5/12/2005 11:19:46 AM EDT
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Denny designed his for running around with, with the ability for first shot accuracy. I made mine heavy to maintain accuracy with sustained use. Heres the 600yd range report with my contour. And if you want fancy, I have a batch incoming that will be PacNor 1:7.5. |
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Posted: 5/12/2005 1:04:33 PM EDT
[#12]
both
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Posted: 5/12/2005 1:14:56 PM EDT
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how much weight difference is there really between the two? 3-4oz.?
thanks |
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Posted: 5/12/2005 1:46:11 PM EDT
[#14]
oh god dammit |
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Posted: 5/12/2005 2:04:20 PM EDT
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Tag
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Posted: 5/12/2005 5:01:26 PM EDT
[#16]
Tell us about the PacNors; same profile, midlength gas, etc? |
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Posted: 5/12/2005 5:24:07 PM EDT
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Same thing, just a differnt blank and M4 barrel extension. If I were you, I'd take the extra $100 the PacNor cost and buy practice ammo for the Wilson Barrel. Trigger time will improve results more than any fancy barrel. |
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Posted: 5/12/2005 5:42:57 PM EDT
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Where can I find Denny barrels? I found the ADCO site, but they were sold out of the type of barrel that I need. I am replacing my M4 profile barrel with a more accurate one of the same length, so it would be best if I got a lighter one anyway.
ETA: Oh yeah, what is recce? |
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Posted: 5/12/2005 6:28:22 PM EDT
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www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=12&t=212585
ETA: to make link hot. |
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Posted: 5/12/2005 6:47:57 PM EDT
[#20]
Great. Thanks alot!
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Posted: 5/12/2005 7:25:25 PM EDT
[#21]
I would love to hear more about these barrels. Like how long are you going to make me wait for one? 
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Posted: 5/13/2005 3:00:44 AM EDT
[#22]
The blanks arrived last week, so I should have them in about 2 weeks if not sooner. |
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Posted: 5/13/2005 4:53:07 PM EDT
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Steve Actually my barrel will actually fire two shots in a row accurately  Denny |
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Posted: 5/14/2005 6:46:44 AM EDT
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I bet it would do so with the first 30, but mine will do it with the first 32 As I said - You have the best of both worlds between the two. Decide what you "need", then buy what you "want". You cant go wrong with either. |
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Posted: 5/14/2005 9:51:31 AM EDT
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Hey steve, is my chamber a wylde!!!!!!!???? I don't care either way. If it is, that's really cool. I assumed it was a nato.
I got a 9/16" 3 shot group at 100 with Q3131a. Needless to say I was impressed because with my old upper I could never ever get that stuff to group.! |
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Posted: 5/14/2005 10:21:29 AM EDT
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Steve That's what is cool about our two contours. They both kick ass for their intended purposes.  Denny |
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Posted: 5/14/2005 1:23:23 PM EDT
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What is the weight difference between them? Can someone post a picture of both barrels profile? Thanks
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Posted: 5/14/2005 1:26:26 PM EDT
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Tag
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Posted: 5/14/2005 3:25:09 PM EDT
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My barrel is 37.4oz standard - 33oz fluted. I believe Denny's barrel is about 1/2lb. lighter than my standard barrel. If "weight" is your concern, I wouldnt spend the money to flute mine - I'd buy Denny's. I offer fluting for its cooling. |
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Posted: 5/14/2005 7:04:15 PM EDT
[#30]
Can somebody post a pic. of the barrels side by side.
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Posted: 5/15/2005 12:29:44 AM EDT
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I don't have a pic of Steve's barrel but here is a Dennys Guns Recon.  Denny |
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Posted: 5/15/2005 8:10:00 AM EDT
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I guess the next thing to do in this discussion is to have a Denny's profile
made from one of those Pac-Nor barrels... I hereby volunteer my Stag upper to be a beta tester :) |
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Posted: 5/15/2005 8:35:45 AM EDT
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What are the dimensions on these two different profiles?
That would help us understand what this is all about. |
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Posted: 5/15/2005 9:02:33 AM EDT
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Mine is a simple .745 at the muzzle, .750 for the gas block, and .900 under the HG. |
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Posted: 5/15/2005 12:08:46 PM EDT
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Dont know what Denny's are under the handguard but (I am pretty sure)Zack had a
Kreiger 17" 0.700" under the handguard, and 0.740" beyond the gas block.. I would snap up one of these in a mid length 16" Pac Nor in a heart beat. |
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Posted: 5/15/2005 8:16:37 PM EDT
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Info on Denny's recce barrel:
10. Barrel is .840 in front of the chamber and tapers to .740 behind front sight VS .640 on M4 for more chamber support and a more rigid barrel. 11. Weight of barrel at 1lb 14oz. is only 4-5 oz heaver than M4 but much stronger than M4 |
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Posted: 5/16/2005 6:18:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/16/2005 7:31:42 PM EDT
[#38]
Awwwww man.
Not to sound like a prick, but I was hoping for a price war between the two!!! Instead, these two vendors seem like good friends. I've dealt with ADCO and they're +A, hopefully I'll deal with Denny soon. -Jim |
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Posted: 5/17/2005 8:43:46 PM EDT
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I've never delt with ADCO but they have a great reputation. Denny on the other hand, has earned my business and is a great guy to do business with.
+1 for Denny 
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Posted: 5/17/2005 9:37:24 PM EDT
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Denny,
What is the best way to contact you for ordering a barrel? I tried to send you an email, but your email isn't working. I've tried calling but keep getting voicemail. Is there a better time to try to reach you? I'm working nightshift out of the country for a while, but wanted to get a barrel ordered so it is waiting for me when I return. PM me with the info. |
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Posted: 5/20/2005 1:04:36 AM EDT
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On upper builds call me at 816 809 9452. I am away from my desk a lot and my email has been crummy for a few months. I turned off IMs here as between emails and IMs I couldn't spend the necessary time on customer orders and builds.
We can accomplish more on the phone in 10 minutes than 10 emails, besides I like to talk to my customers in person to find out exactly what their needs are. Denny |
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Posted: 5/20/2005 4:34:39 PM EDT
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I vote other. All my current RECCE's (5) have Douglas 16" mid-length. They all shoot sub-MOA, the worst is 0.5 at 100/200M (in both 5.56MM and 6.8SPC). I am currently working the details on a Lilja barrled twin of one of my current RECCEs.
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Posted: 6/12/2005 1:44:28 PM EDT
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After much consideration, I decided to buy a fluted recce barrel from ADCO for my build. Denny is great to do business with, so nothing against him. (In fact, he's sending me the upper for this build.)
Now I need to decide between a 12" or 13.2" Larue handguard...... Anybody with a 12 that wished they had bought a 13.2? Anybody with a 13.2 that wished they had bought a 12? |
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Posted: 6/12/2005 2:39:08 PM EDT
[#44]
im thinking either 13.2 or 9.0 for my recon build. |
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Posted: 6/12/2005 6:43:53 PM EDT
[#45]
12.0
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Posted: 6/13/2005 3:27:41 AM EDT
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I have them both in stock for custom builds. 12.0 is a little lighter, 13.2 looks very high speed on a 16" Recon. There are pics of both in the ad for Recon barrels in the EE. Denny
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Posted: 6/15/2005 4:41:59 AM EDT
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Damn there is a lot of choices now.
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Posted: 6/16/2005 12:35:25 AM EDT
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Tell me about it! Used to be a kinda chocolate/vinalla world for M16s a few year ago but now we got Baskin-Robbins on steroids The good news is that most of the parts that survive in the market are very good stuff. Denny |
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Posted: 8/26/2005 4:14:39 PM EDT
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I just re-read this old thread and because of the good info in it I thought I would give it a bump.
Denny |
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Posted: 8/27/2005 7:40:21 AM EDT
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Not only is it great info, BUT it's great to see two "competing" industry partners acknowledging and respecting each other in a collegial manner. I myself (as Steve may remember from many of my badgering "20 questions" type emails) have been considering something like a "lighter SPVarmintactical" type rifle. I like the idea of a 18" RRA varmint, but something a wee bit lighter. Would y'all say that the ADCO profile would be the ideal "in between" weight that wouldn't compromise sustainable accuracy (most likely nothing beyond 300 yards) yet still be OK as a "walking varminter"?
Rich |
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