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Posted: 5/15/2009 8:42:32 AM EDT
Thoughts??? More info worth reading by someone who has shot one. Gunblast article The official Ruger Page Ruger SR 556 |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 8:44:57 AM EDT
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Interesting...
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Posted: 5/15/2009 8:46:57 AM EDT
[#2]
I have a thought. RECALL |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 8:47:49 AM EDT
[#3]
Looks good to me.
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Posted: 5/15/2009 8:50:47 AM EDT
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You know, the MORE MFG's make AR's the better it is for us all.
It goes right to the common use argument made in Heller and helps establish a foundation for the platform in yet another major firearms mfg. This only helps cement the AR15 as a mainstay in firearms ownership, just like many consider the 870 to be, etc. Ruger has clout, regardless of what you think of them and it helps they are in this game. They swing a big ax and I for one, am glad they are mfg'ing AR-15 rifles. Will I own one, no, but will I support them in the attempt to make a solid Ar15 for the consumer, you damn right I will. It helps us all. |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 8:53:50 AM EDT
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Nevermind...I don't want to shit up the thread. I don't like Ruger...leave it at that.
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Posted: 5/15/2009 8:55:44 AM EDT
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My thought...screw Ruger. I still own a few of their products, but their customer service sucks bad enough that I don't plan to ever buy anything else from them. About the gun...I wonder how many parts are proprietary vs how much is standard. I'd hope they didn't deviate from standard part dimensions anywhere they didn't need to, such as for the gas system. Be curious to see if anything is proprietary, it looks like a lot is run of the mill, which would be good as I am not a fan of their "investiment" casting personally, but to each their own. Im shocked they went with a pistol, I thought they would go right for good ole DI. |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 8:55:50 AM EDT
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I have a thought. RECALL Edited, this stuff is NOT ALLOWED in tech ~Cold |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 8:59:47 AM EDT
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I'm pleasantly surprised! As long the receivers and other important parts aren't cast, it looks pretty good.
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:03:38 AM EDT
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Looks like a nice rifle and I think its price will determine its success. Seems a lot of people hate Ruger and for some guns I can understand, but they do make a fine rifle and one of the best mid priced O/U shotguns. Looks like they have some quality parts in this one though from what is known.
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:04:08 AM EDT
[#10]
Cool.
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:07:42 AM EDT
[#11]
Ok, (now that my knee-jerk reaction is over)
-it looks like they're using at least a few quality parts -interesting that it comes with 3 pmags -still worried about the parts dimensions, and for that matter quality, of things like the trigger group -whose piston design is it? Rugers? -I'd expect problems initially at least, just because of my perception of their track record -if you have problems, hope it's something to do with a standard part so you can just skip their customer service -this is a bit of a surprise |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:08:03 AM EDT
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I don't like Ruger in general.
I don't get all warm and fuzzy over investment cast firearms. I do however, think this may help change my mind. (I'm sooo happy that it isn't yet another try to make the Mini-14 what it isn't and never will be) Bill |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:09:30 AM EDT
[#13]
MSRP is $2k
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:12:08 AM EDT
[#14]
If it works well, it should be somewhat successful.
I hope Bill is spinning in his grave. |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:16:36 AM EDT
[#15]
What we needed was someone else making regular ARs.
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:17:52 AM EDT
[#16]
I wonder if they will take orders for just the upper.
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:18:43 AM EDT
[#17]
How much of that is investment cast?
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:20:24 AM EDT
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vs. a LWRC for $2200? I'll take the LWRC thanks.
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:21:45 AM EDT
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You know, the MORE MFG's make AR's the better it is for us all. It goes right to the common use argument made in Heller and helps establish a foundation for the platform in yet another major firearms mfg. This only helps cement the AR15 as a mainstay in firearms ownership, just like many consider the 870 to be, etc. Ruger has clout, regardless of what you think of them and it helps they are in this game. They swing a big ax and I for one, am glad they are mfg'ing AR-15 rifles. Will I own one, no, but will I support them in the attempt to make a solid Ar15 for the consumer, you damn right I will. It helps us all. A big +1 |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:25:48 AM EDT
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According to this press release (link):
The flat top upper receiver and barrel assembly is specific to the Ruger SR-556. The standard lower receiver is built with Mil-Spec components, including a single stage trigger. The lower receiver is compatible with AR-style magazines, grips, buttstocks, and fire control components.
Also of interest, go here and click to feature '3'. It looks like the bolt carrier is designed to be supported at the rear, the lack of which would be a common complaint with some of the current piston designs (due to carrier tilt). Interesting. |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:30:33 AM EDT
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If it works well, it should be somewhat successful. I hope Bill is spinning in his grave. He probably is. And good for it. |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:33:49 AM EDT
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If it turns out to be a good rifle, then DO WANT. Might have to trade the trusty old Mini-14 for it.
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:35:58 AM EDT
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How much of that is investment cast? I'll go out on a limb and say that the same parts as in any other makers. Very few, but some of them surprized me. Bill |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:38:16 AM EDT
[#24]
Looks to have a Troy battlerail. Is that one free floating?
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:38:59 AM EDT
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I have a thought. RECALL That's what SR 556 Stands for "SOMETHING to RECALL in 5.56" A little pricey there Ruger! |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:40:23 AM EDT
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early on, i was concerned that there would be a lot of cheap parts and/or materials used in this firearm. ruger did a good job on this though, sticking with "milspec" where applicable. i only have 1 and a half concerns. 1) 1/9 twist.  not bad, but i personally prefer 1/7.
2) i don't know if the buffer tube is commercial or milspec diameter. i *believe* it is mil diameter... |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:43:42 AM EDT
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I'd actually really like to have one. It's got all the features I'm looking for (pending barrel profile, anyway), but at $2000....forget it. I can build one cheaper than that. I don't need piston operation (though I wouldn't turn one down, either).
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:44:26 AM EDT
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vs. a LWRC for $2200? I'll take the LWRC thanks. Ruger MSRP is typically 20% or more then what you will see in most shops. Street price should range between $1500 and $1700. ETA: Retail price in my store is $1630.07 |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:44:41 AM EDT
[#29]
hm, would need to see a comparison to the LWRC M6A2
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:49:59 AM EDT
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Love Ruger or hate them. If the system performs nothing else matters. From what I understand, Ruger did try and cut a deal back in 94 to spare them the cost of litigation with the Clintoniestas but so did S & W. I don't here many people wining about S & W. I carried a grudge for some time but you can't deny Rugers success and quality on several fronts.
I hope the platform is reliable and it will be interesting to see if another piston designed AR cuts the mustard. Let the experiment continue. |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:53:25 AM EDT
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This raises many questions in my mind:
Why would Ruger farm just about everything out except the barrel? Are they going manufacture it to the same level of 'quality' as their Mini line?
Are customers going to have to ship their entire Ruger AR back to Ruger in order to get a replacement part, such as a firing pin? What makes them think that customers are going to make that leap of faith and buy not only an AR from them, but one with unproven design features that they incorporated? |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 9:58:58 AM EDT
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MSRP is not reality....ya'lll know that, right?
Still, at say $1300-1500 "street" its a bit spendy. But remember back when Bill ran the company, and Sturm Ruger seemed to be in step with the Brady's? Not anymore. Ruger is making a product whose success depends on our goals being met. I say give them all the support we can. Soooo, are they a site sponsor yet? |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 10:05:55 AM EDT
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There seems to be alot of Ruger hate here. I have been shooting Rugers for more than 25 years and am quite pleased with them. I have a couple Ruger 77s I would put up against any manufacturers production bolt action rifle. They are certainly not all tack drivers but neither is anyone elses. True, Mini 14s have never been known for accuracy but they have always been reliable and half the price of retail packaged AR. For those that have doubts you might want to read the Gunblast article on this rifle I added to my first post.
As far as the price goes we all know suggested retail is always high compared to actual market prices. This is not a stock rifle either. It has a chromed bolt which others also charge extra for. Its a piston rifle which is always higher. It includes Troy hanguards and sights which add to the cost. It includes 3 Pmags, that does not add alot but its a nice feature. |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 10:06:32 AM EDT
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who has them?
i would volunteer to run one through its paces. just to answer some questions 
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Posted: 5/15/2009 10:10:32 AM EDT
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Good news for the EBR community. Another horse in the barn. Looks like they teamed up with Troy and didn't spare $$ putting some good accessories on it. The AR has been wrung out pretty well in the last 40 years, so maybe they can get this to market without a bunch of bugs that would require the traditional Ruger recall.
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Posted: 5/15/2009 10:13:54 AM EDT
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Its cool, and I'm always happy to see a new AR manf out there, but I figure they are a couple days late and more then a couple dollars short. If they had these ready to go four months ago, maybe they would have done alright. But they won't be shipping for months, and by that point, eh, I don't know they will do so well.
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Posted: 5/15/2009 10:17:43 AM EDT
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Interesting to say the least. I don't care for the flash suppressor reminds me of the old AC-556/ mini-14 type. Price is a sticking point for me. I would rather spend that kind of money on a H&K MR-223 even though they suck and hate me!
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Posted: 5/15/2009 10:19:31 AM EDT
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Its cool, and I'm always happy to see a new AR manf out there, but I figure they are a couple days late and more then a couple dollars short. If they had these ready to go four months ago, maybe they would have done alright. But they won't be shipping for months, and by that point, eh, I don't know they will do so well. Yes, we all know how plentiful ARs have become. Never mind all those manufacturers that are 6-8 months behind on their current orders. I'm sure it will not be Rugers biggest seller but I'm sure they will do just fine. Many said the same thing about the LCP. Retailers can't keep those in stock. |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 10:20:35 AM EDT
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+1 for another company on the AR track, -1 if the price is that high, CMMG complete piston AR starts at $999 time will tell I kinda was wondering when Ruger would ride the AR train. I use to have a mini 14 not bad rifle i pulled the trigger it fired, got the job done.
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Posted: 5/15/2009 10:22:28 AM EDT
[#40]
So who wants to be the guinea pig and try one out first?
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Posted: 5/15/2009 10:24:16 AM EDT
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Dealer is about $1445 on these. Retail will be about $1800. No way in hell they'll sell many of these at that price.
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Posted: 5/15/2009 10:30:49 AM EDT
[#42]
Looks ok, but I can think of a lot of other AR's that I would spend 2k on before this one.
I'm just surprised that it didn't state it comes with one 20 round mag. |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 10:36:20 AM EDT
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This looks really interesting. Does anyone know how Ruger's piston system compares to everyone else's (H&K, LMT, LWRC, and S&W)?
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Posted: 5/15/2009 10:42:33 AM EDT
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Looks ok, but I can think of a lot of other AR's that I would spend 2k on before this one. I'm just surprised that it didn't state it comes with one 5 round mag. Fixed it for you
ETA, hopefully its more accurate than the Mini Series
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Posted: 5/15/2009 10:47:24 AM EDT
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yawn.
but mo ARs is mo betta |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 10:48:21 AM EDT
[#46]
ETA, hopefully its more accurate than the Mini Series
That will not be hard to do. |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 10:50:35 AM EDT
[#47]
too much for a ruger IMO.
If i'm gonna jump on teh piston wagon it's probably gonna be for a colt, or LWRC |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 11:00:29 AM EDT
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too much for a ruger IMO. If i'm gonna jump on teh piston wagon it's probably gonna be for a colt, or LWRC Yeah, I'm not a Ruger hater, but they certainly aren't on the top of my list of manufacturers. I haven't bought into the piston fad yet either, but if I did I'd go with someone like LWRC, LMT, etc. They should have started off with a basic AR package at a budget price to throw their hat into the AR ring. That might have sold well. Instead they're trying to jump straight into the high end AR and they have stiff competition. Bad idea IMHO. My guess is they don't sell many except to hardcore Ruger fans or those that don't know much about ARs. $2000 can buy you a very nice AR from some of the big names in the AR business. Most of us here would rather buy a Colt, LMT, LWRC, Noveske, etc. for around the same price (+/- a couple hundred bucks). |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 11:01:30 AM EDT
[#49]
Looks neat but that flash hider is ugly.
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Posted: 5/15/2009 11:03:31 AM EDT
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I almost got wood when I saw it, I was thinking possible replacement of the problem prone Mini 14.
Then I saw the MSRP, $2K, FUG! Maybe throwing their hat in the ring for a future military contract? |
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