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Posted: 6/20/2005 6:15:11 PM EDT
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YHM has been used by a lot of people with a lot of solid reviews. Go with the other and it is more of an unknown. Then again, you could be the first cool kid on your block.....
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Posted: 6/20/2005 6:41:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/20/2005 6:52:09 PM EDT
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Just installed a set of the MI handguards tonight! Ordered them on a Wednesday from Bravo, and received them the following Friday.
They are very tight. Even with a handguard tool, they were very difficult to install on the M4 barrel and flat-top upper that also came from Bravo. With the delta ring compressed as far as it would go (it was touching the upper receiver!), there still wasn't enough room to install the handguards. I had to file down the delta ring and use a C-clamp to get them installed. It took me about an hour and a bent handguard tool to get it done, but they are very solid and will probably never come-off. Don't even attempt to install it without having a handguard tool. If you're willing to deal with some hassle installing them, then I strongly recommend them. They are rock solid even when swinging the rifle around by the forward pistol grip. I'm not going to put optics on the handguard top rail, but they appear solid enough to maintain a good zero. I haven't used the YHM or any other brand so I don't know how they compare.z |
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Posted: 6/20/2005 7:00:53 PM EDT
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I just installed some on my Colt LE 6920. They went on with just a little fiddling thank goodness (I have one of those tools to help remove handguards). I didn't need to modify anything on my gun to make them fit. I am VERY pleased, they have a nice tight fit and they look great!!!! I haven't taken any pictures yet but I will. These were Model #17C (for Colt) so I can't vouch for the fit of model #17 made for other manufacturers.
I also put a set on my Colt 6450. Those were a tad loose but just barely. I haven't decided if I am going to keep them on the 6450 or not . Probably will since I like how they look and the very slight movement may not be an issue at all. The 6450 doesn't have that little tube (sorry but I'm new to ARs and don't know what that part is called) under the handguards like the LE6920 does so they aren't as tight fitting I think because there isn't the tube that locks in place in an indentation on the handguards (sorry, hard to explain). They fit OK but not like the fit on the LE6920. I'm very pleased with them however I'm curious if anyone else put them on a 6450 and had any movement in them. I have a second 6450 that perhaps I should try them on and see if there is any difference....and also another 6920 that I could try them on. Maybe it's the handguards and not the gun??? I'll look into that tomorrow night. The Yankee Hill handguards don't fit Colt, correct? At least that's what the ad for them said. |
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Posted: 6/20/2005 7:08:45 PM EDT
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I hope that's not the norm for MI Hand guards and sounds like a no so perfect fit. I have read that there are two types of hand guards you can order the colt version and the non-colt version, you should check and make sure they sent you the right hand guard set.
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Posted: 6/20/2005 7:21:40 PM EDT
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I talked to them, and they said their barrels had the "normal" handguard caps, so I had the correct ones. Maybe the FSB on the barrel was a little out place rather than the guards being too long. I don't know, but I do know that while it was a lot of trouble, it was worth it. I didn't think AR handguards could ever be this tight. Just plan ahead and order the handguard tool.z |
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Posted: 6/20/2005 7:45:51 PM EDT
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I'm going to try a set of these though I have the YHM on my 6920. That one was a PITA even with the handguard tool. I had to take some metal off on the front where it mated up with the HG cap but it's so damned solid, I like it. I'm hoping the MI won't be as hard to install since super tight is not a requirement as I don't intend on putting optics on the rail. Anyone know the weight difference if any between the YHM and the MI?
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Posted: 6/21/2005 2:00:29 AM EDT
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I ordered mine on Friday from Bravo Company USA and I got them today. (Ordered to received in one business day!) Mine installed easily and fit nice and tight. I am very pleased with the quality of them. I would recommend them. A friend of mine bought the YHM and I have not had a chance to compare them side by side, but I think the Midwest Industries ones are nicer. The top rail of the MI's are at the same level as the rail on the upper receiver.
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Posted: 6/21/2005 2:57:12 AM EDT
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I've had a set for a while now and they are fantastic. Rock solid, top rail in line with the upper, and pretty good looking to boot.
My digital camera is broken and I had planned a whole thread about how great they are... look for it in the future. Buy with confidence from Bravo. - BG |
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Posted: 6/21/2005 1:55:44 PM EDT
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zoom and I discussed his situation already, but I'll say (so far) I've put these on LMT, RRA, Cav and Sabre factory built uppers and they have been easy to install and a good, snug fit. On the LMT I had a buddy hold the rifle so I could 'palm' it into place the last inch or so, but no fitting required. The others I did myself with a handguard tool.
I'll try them on an Armalite LE model next and along the way if I see any models with an install problem on I'll say so on our site... If someone has an upper and has had a problem like zoom, let us know so we can get more info. Have not tried the Colt model yet, but MI says they are a nice fit and also easy install. |
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Posted: 6/22/2005 12:47:35 PM EDT
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Just received mine, and installed them on my LMT upper. They are a little "fun" to get on, but only because I don't have a handguard tool (It's on the list...). They mount up VERY solid. The finish and machining looks to be top notch as I couldn't detect any flaws. Now I just need to get to the range so I can get them dirty!
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Posted: 6/22/2005 4:58:17 PM EDT
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Recieved mine- installed on LMT upper, very very nice, very tight, and quality as good as those costing hundreds more.
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Posted: 6/22/2005 8:14:53 PM EDT
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Where's the pics?
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Posted: 6/23/2005 5:47:31 PM EDT
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I installed a set on my RRA this week & I'm very pleased. Quality & design is top notch. Installation was no harder than the regular handguards. Very, very nice.
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Posted: 6/23/2005 6:26:14 PM EDT
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Tagged for pics
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Posted: 6/24/2005 5:55:34 AM EDT
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On a Cav upper...
 Offset rail...  On an LMT...   
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Posted: 6/24/2005 6:06:01 AM EDT
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I have the YHM and I like it very much. However looking at the MI, had they been around when I purchased I probably would have gone with the MI
Why? Primary reason is the rails. MI uses SOLID rails (especially on the bottom). The YHM rails have that 'lightening' slot that runs down the middle of the rail. While the slot doesn't effect mounting of lights - it DOES effect mounting of the KAC type handguards. Also the offset rail is a nice feature for those with VFGs & lights. |
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Posted: 6/24/2005 6:10:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/24/2005 11:18:46 AM EDT
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I got a set and i installed them on my Olympic Arms- CMT M4grey they went on kind of hard ( no handguard tool used) but once on they move side to side just a little. The bottom section moves the most and the top moves just so ever so much that i dont think i can mount optics on it. but other than that they look great and the match my CMT T-marked upper. they are the same height as the flat top so one could move his Eotech up to brige the gap between the upper and forearm.
All in all they are great for the money kind of dark but you get the idea. Has Magpul xt rail covers on it , http://img241.echo.cx/img241/2774/flattop0034ra.jpg |
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Posted: 6/27/2005 2:35:06 PM EDT
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We just installed MI's on an Armalite LE carbine and the C model (Colt) do fit better. Armalite LE rifles are kind of rare outside LE, but the end cap may be used by others (or by kit companies). It is a full circle type cap, but the indentions do not look as wide or deep as the Colt, but the std MI's would take some modification to work. The C models go on easily and fit snug...
Where's that pic that Paul from Bravo posted with the Colt end cap? |
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Posted: 6/27/2005 2:49:54 PM EDT
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is MI going to make a rifle length handguards? it would be nice
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Posted: 6/27/2005 2:55:02 PM EDT
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Yes all lengths are coming with free-float brothers... |
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Posted: 6/27/2005 3:44:28 PM EDT
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Here you go . . .   Standard carbine handguard cap on the left --- Colt carbine handguard cap on the right |
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Posted: 6/27/2005 3:46:46 PM EDT
[#25]
Some pics . . .
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Posted: 6/27/2005 5:22:28 PM EDT
[#26]
Thanks Paul... The Armalite is different from both, but more like the Colt... |
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Posted: 6/28/2005 12:53:57 AM EDT
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also 2 piece rifle length? |
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Posted: 6/28/2005 3:55:21 AM EDT
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Anyone put a set of these on a Bushmaster yet?
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Posted: 6/28/2005 4:40:45 AM EDT
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I got mine from BC USA on Friday. Installed no problem on my BM M4gery and they fit tighter than the YHM unit which quickly became fodder for the EE. By far the best HG i've tried. My older model YHM rails were not spec, hence the dremeling on my TDVG. I also like the circular cuts on the MI HG much more than the long cuts [openings] on the YHM HG. The MI HG will definately fit the bill when my rifle length build gets started here soon. I hope they plan on a rifle length!   HS1 |
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Posted: 6/28/2005 6:00:27 AM EDT
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tag for pics
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Posted: 6/28/2005 8:36:39 AM EDT
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Absolutely... No ETA yet though. Here's the Armalite with 17C's and a TD --------------------------------- 
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Posted: 6/28/2005 9:28:13 AM EDT
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thank you |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 6:38:12 PM EDT
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I recieved mine.
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Posted: 6/29/2005 7:20:30 PM EDT
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Ok it's not the height that's off it's the spacing.
Creeper |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 7:26:28 PM EDT
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See in the picture above how they have a detachable rear carry handle. Now take that detachable rear carry handle and move it so one end half is on the handguard and the other end half is on the reciever. Now try and lock it down- Guarantee you can't lock it down because the spacing is off somehow, by only half a rail.
The only reason they DGS Tactical or guns whoever could lock down an Eotech in the picture from their website is because the cross bar for the Eotech is in the area where the delta ring is located so spacing doesn't matter. Technically in the DGS tactical picture of the Eotech mounted only one crossbar/crossbolt is locked into the rails the other is floating above the delta ring. This means if you try to lock down any device between the two systems you can't have any with a cross bolt on one side and on the other. Creeper |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 7:39:17 PM EDT
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Tag for later.
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Posted: 6/29/2005 9:33:46 PM EDT
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I see Marc allready linked to my thread, but I thought I'd chime in.
Installation was NO hassle on my LMT upper. And no I didn't use a handguard tool. Eat your Wheaties boys! Or have a buddy help you I reckon. I'm very happy with mine as I stated in the other thread. Rock solid, and most of all, TD fit is excellent, with NO slop. That was the main thing I was looking for when they first arrived. I suspect that Paul told MI that TD fit was something that people would specifically be concerned with, as its has been an issue with other systems. If so, they did a great job IMO. For the price, I don't they can be beat really.  |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 10:46:00 PM EDT
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Mine are on a Bushmaster upper and barrel. It works great. |
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Posted: 6/30/2005 6:20:16 PM EDT
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Just got mine from Rusytx (thanks btw ) and it goes on very easy. Don't let that fool you into thinking it's loose. It's not. I can move my Eotech from the flat top to the rail and maintain zero despite my best efforts into twisting the rail out of position. Best thing is that the Larue lever has the same tightness on the flat top as it does on the rail suggesting they're toleranced better than the Yankee Hill that I have which is too tight. BTW, mine is the one for the Colt. Highly recommended over the YHM rail.
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Posted: 6/30/2005 8:18:40 PM EDT
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I ordered a set of MI handguards as well as a tangodown vertical foregrip, handguard tool, and magpul rail covers. They arrived last night. Unfortunately, the handguard tool snapped in half. Needless to say, my index fingers and thumbs are still sore.
 
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Posted: 7/1/2005 4:17:54 AM EDT
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Nice pic Ramen... You broke the HG tool? If it was ours, be sure and send an email so we can replace it...
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Posted: 7/1/2005 4:57:50 AM EDT
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I'm torn between this hanguard and the Surefire m73's. My main conern is that it is rock solid, yet comes off if I decide to change it out later. How hot do these get? It looks like without a heat shield they would get pretty toasty.
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Posted: 7/1/2005 5:08:40 AM EDT
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Played with M73 and like this one better. The M73 is also not level with the flat top so keep that in mind also. This is very solid, enough so that I wouldn't be afraid of mounting optics on it if I had to. As far as heat, get a tango down VG. |
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Posted: 7/1/2005 5:10:44 AM EDT
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Thanks, that's what I was hoping to hear.
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Posted: 7/1/2005 4:30:39 PM EDT
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Thanks, Rusty, but this order came from Bravocompany. Though look out for my order for 10 or so mags from your site when I get the chance. |
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Posted: 7/1/2005 6:27:54 PM EDT
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BTW, Bravocompany made it right. They're great to deal with.
+1 from me to Paul. |
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Posted: 7/25/2005 6:45:58 PM EDT
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I put a set on my Bushmaster M4A3 last week and they went on a little tight but with no problem using two people. I did notice that my TD vertical grip slid on it much easier than the previous YHM. No pounding needed!!!! The fit and finish seem superior to the YHM also. No movement at all. I can post pics if anyone wants to see them. |
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Posted: 7/25/2005 7:13:44 PM EDT
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Thanks for the feedback. I have another carbine build going, and my always changing rifle is waiting for a rifle length set. |
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Posted: 8/13/2005 6:20:44 AM EDT
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I got mine yesterday from Bravo Co. I put it on a 14.5" upper (Model 1 Sales). Fit is perfect, no play at all. Mine was easy to install with handguard tool. Took 5 minutes or so. Overall, I am very pleased. They are nice looking also and my KAC grip fits great.
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Posted: 8/19/2005 1:16:24 PM EDT
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+1. Got and installed mine today. No hand tool needed...just some strong fingers! As stated above, very tight, wiggle-free install. For the $ and compared to rails costing twice as much or more, a good deal. Cheers! 
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