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Posted: 1/21/2012 10:17:09 PM EDT
I'm trying find a canteen. Perferably 2 quart and can be used for boiling. Anyone know one that fits the bill? Thanks
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You’re looking for a two-quart canteen that you can boil in? The only 2 quart canteens I know of are the USGI models, but they’re soft plastic. You can find some decent, large stainless water bottles such as the Nalgene/Guyot that can be used to boil; the larger Kleen Kanteen bottles (64 fl oz/2 quart) is the only one I can think of and can be used to boil in…just make sure to get the single wall designs.
Kleen Kanteen 64 fluid ounces = 2 quarts ROCK6 |
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You’re looking for a two-quart canteen that you can boil in? The only 2 quart canteens I know of are the USGI models, but they’re soft plastic. You can find some decent, large stainless water bottles such as the Nalgene/Guyot that can be used to boil; the larger Kleen Kanteen bottles (64 fl oz/2 quart) is the only one I can think of and can be used to boil in…just make sure to get the single wall designs. Kleen Kanteen 64 fluid ounces = 2 quarts ROCK6 You can boil with the one you linked? In the description it says not to use hot liquids if that really means anything. |
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You’re looking for a two-quart canteen that you can boil in? The only 2 quart canteens I know of are the USGI models, but they’re soft plastic. You can find some decent, large stainless water bottles such as the Nalgene/Guyot that can be used to boil; the larger Kleen Kanteen bottles (64 fl oz/2 quart) is the only one I can think of and can be used to boil in…just make sure to get the single wall designs. Kleen Kanteen 64 fluid ounces = 2 quarts ROCK6 You can boil with the one you linked? In the description it says not to use hot liquids if that really means anything. That, I believe, is simply legal CYA-speak so that the mfr will be insulated (No pun) against dummies who fill grip the canteen when it is scalding hot. The main thing is to remove the cap entirely from any canteen before heating up the contents. Otherwise, pressure can build up within the canteen, and it can rupture, perhaps causing injury, and certainly damaging the canteen. Thanks |
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I have several of the Nalgene/Guyot liter sized bottles. I have boiled water in them a number of times without any problems. With the cap removed you can use a cable setup (instructions can be found on line) to move the bottle in and out of the fire without getting burned.
They are a bit large but you can heat enough water for your freeze dried meal and have plenty left over for coffee. I highly recommend them. |
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Two quarts is a lot of water to be boiling, unless you are trying to disinfect water.
My inclination would be toward multiple smaller bottles. A lot handier. And a lot less expensive. |
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I have several of the Nalgene/Guyot liter sized bottles. I have boiled water in them a number of times without any problems. With the cap removed you can use a cable setup (instructions can be found on line) to move the bottle in and out of the fire without getting burned. They are a bit large but you can heat enough water for your freeze dried meal and have plenty left over for coffee. I highly recommend them. I use the 1L insulated boiling cup that came with my esbit stove and transfer the water into my nalgene from there. I've made coffee many mornings like that. |
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I have several of the Nalgene/Guyot liter sized bottles. I have boiled water in them a number of times without any problems. With the cap removed you can use a cable setup (instructions can be found on line) to move the bottle in and out of the fire without getting burned. They are a bit large but you can heat enough water for your freeze dried meal and have plenty left over for coffee. I highly recommend them. Main reason I'm buying it. Thanks. |
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Quoted: Shoot, just take some 3/16" dia aluminum rod. Bend up an identical handle and bottle insert, and a connector piece. Insert one end of the contraption into the neck of the bottle, and it will pick up the bottle straight every time. Put a crook in the connector, and it will hold the handle off the bottle so it doesn't get hot I have several of the Nalgene/Guyot liter sized bottles. I have boiled water in them a number of times without any problems. With the cap removed you can use a cable setup (instructions can be found on line) to move the bottle in and out of the fire without getting burned. They are a bit large but you can heat enough water for your freeze dried meal and have plenty left over for coffee. I highly recommend them. Oh, well, another idea given away for free. I still have plenty of USGI stainless steel canteens and cups around, and these are my current choice for winter. If I didn't have 'em, I'd probably buy some 1 or mebbe 1-1/2 QT max modern water bottles, and appropriate carriers. Currently I have a couple 32 oz Nalgene/Guyot SS water bottles and Condor carriers, and IMHO, they are too big and bulky, although well-made. Nesting SS boiling cups are available, and that is a big plus. What makes the difference amongst the modern stuff, to me, at least, is whether or not the particular water bottle mfr has an internally and externally integrated system. By that, I mean, does the mfr of the SS water bottle have SS cups that nest onto the base of the bottle? Different sorts of caps for different applications? And so forth. That's internal stuff. By external integration I mean does the SS bottle mfr's product interface with other mfr's products. For example, the Katadyn Combi has a detachable lower flange that will accept most Nalgene bottles––wide and narrow, as well as, by happy coincidence, most pop bottles. While the Combi can also use an outflow hose, being able to couple the bottle directly to the water filter is a real conveniance. This is such a simple thing, but so useful, that it bears talking about. Take your standard water filter with an output hose. You have to not only use two hands to operate most filters, but you also have to use an occasional third hand to steady the receiving bottle since the hose will jiggle it, and maybe upset the bottle. Contrast this to having the receiving bottle secured to the bottom of the filter, as with the Combi. Now, it is more-or-less a one-handed operation, and you can push against the ground (receiving bottle) as opposed to using both arms. Vastly resuced fuss, and considerably reduced effort. The reduced possibility of contamination is also a big plus. I understand that other filter mfrs have taken some measures to integrate their filters with other mfrs water bottles, and this is a very good thing. Try out both approaches, and see what you think. For me, it is a no-brainer. Buying products from a mfr that has taken the time to both internally and externally integrate their product pays you big dividends in being able go find gear that is designed to mate with your stuff. You have choices, and alternatives, and that is always good. So far, Nalgene is the leader in this, since they have been around for a long time, and they, and other mfrs, have come to live with each other. This is no slam on other mfrs who make a good product, such as Kleen Kanteen, and others. Still, the newcomers haven't been around long enough for other gear mfrs to begin to offer compatible items for such. That may change, but I urge folks to consider the bigger picture when buying items like this. A bit of forethought might pay surprisingly big dividends. YMMV. If I was starting from scratch, I believe I'd buy several 1 or 1-1/2 QT max stainless steel water bottles that would mate with my water filter, and for which I could buy nesting SS cups and decent carriers. I understand that SS is a lot heavier than plastic, but for winter use, that's my plan. For summer, I'd switch out most of the SS canteens for modern, lightweight plastic, while still keeping the filter adaptibility, and nested cup. YMMV. |
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If a 1.5l one will work, I just got these very neat French military canteen sets in. They are a 1.5qt aluminum canteen, US style cup that fits it, and the cover.
http://store.oldgrouch.biz/fralcacupand.html I have been very impressed by the quality. |
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If a 1.5l one will work, I just got these very neat French military canteen sets in. They are a 1.5qt aluminum canteen, US style cup that fits it, and the cover. http://store.oldgrouch.biz/fralcacupand.html I have been very impressed by the quality. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/tglance/68652e78.jpg Thanks for the heads up. |
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Quoted: If a 1.5l one will work, I just got these very neat French military canteen sets in. They are a 1.5qt aluminum canteen, US style cup that fits it, and the cover. http://store.oldgrouch.biz/fralcacupand.html I have been very impressed by the quality. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/tglance/68652e78.jpg Hmmmmmmmmm. IIRC, there is a seldom-seen canteen cup stove that is compatible with the unique French canteen cups, and the inclusion of both slip-over stove and cup requires the dual snap arrangement on the pouch. If a USGI cup will fit, then the easily-obtainable USGI stove will fit also. Sounds like a winner, as long as the pouch will accept MALICE attachments. If not, then there are plenty of suitable pouches sold for a bargain price. Still a good deal. I'll accept any Euro aluminum canteens, but not ChiCom. YMMV. More important is the pouches' attachment method, and some pix might be useful. |
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If a 1.5l one will work, I just got these very neat French military canteen sets in. They are a 1.5qt aluminum canteen, US style cup that fits it, and the cover. http://store.oldgrouch.biz/fralcacupand.html I have been very impressed by the quality. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/tglance/68652e78.jpg Hmmmmmmmmm. IIRC, there is a seldom-seen canteen cup stove that is compatible with the unique French canteen cups, and the inclusion of both slip-over stove and cup requires the dual snap arrangement on the pouch. More important is the pouches' attachment method, and some pix might be useful. Lucky I brought a few home! I just snapped a pic. It has the old US style wire attachment, and a wide belt loop. One of my customers got 2 and 2 MOLLE/ALICE adapters, since they have the eyelets, they worked to hook it on via the wire hanger. No clue on a stove for it. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If a 1.5l one will work, I just got these very neat French military canteen sets in. They are a 1.5qt aluminum canteen, US style cup that fits it, and the cover. http://store.oldgrouch.biz/fralcacupand.html I have been very impressed by the quality. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/tglance/68652e78.jpg Hmmmmmmmmm. IIRC, there is a seldom-seen canteen cup stove that is compatible with the unique French canteen cups, and the inclusion of both slip-over stove and cup requires the dual snap arrangement on the pouch. More important is the pouches' attachment method, and some pix might be useful. Lucky I brought a few home! I just snapped a pic. It has the old US style wire attachment, and a wide belt loop. One of my customers got 2 and 2 MOLLE/ALICE adapters, since they have the eyelets, they worked to hook it on via the wire hanger. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/tglance/e71dc1b5.jpg No clue on a stove for it. No matter about the French stoves. As long as the Frog canteen will accept the USGI cup and stove AND fit into a USGI canteen pouch (or aftermarket canteen pouch), it is all GTG. Looks like the Frog pouch was intended to use WWI/II hook-style attachment. Some folks still employ such, so that is useful to a minority. I'd say pairing this frog unit with an ALICE canteen pouch might be a good way to go. Assuming it fits. If someone MUST adapt the whole French pouch thing to their modern rig, then factor in a MOLLE adptor into the price equation. Not tryin to tell your business, just offering some suggestions. FWIW, I've bought some stuff from you, without your knowing I was a Sr. Staff member here. Everything went well, and I would order from you again. |
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They may be too tall for a GI cover. I will try one in the morning.
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Quoted: The French-mfd stove had two bent wire legs that folded up into the stove body itself. Result is that the whole ensemble was much taller than canteen with cup alone. The two sets of snaps reflect canteen + cup (lower set), and canteen, cup, + stove (higher set).They may be too tall for a GI cover. I will try one in the morning. |
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If a 1.5l one will work, I just got these very neat French military canteen sets in. They are a 1.5qt aluminum canteen, US style cup that fits it, and the cover. http://store.oldgrouch.biz/fralcacupand.html I have been very impressed by the quality. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/tglance/68652e78.jpg Hmmmmmmmmm. IIRC, there is a seldom-seen canteen cup stove that is compatible with the unique French canteen cups, and the inclusion of both slip-over stove and cup requires the dual snap arrangement on the pouch. More important is the pouches' attachment method, and some pix might be useful. Lucky I brought a few home! I just snapped a pic. It has the old US style wire attachment, and a wide belt loop. One of my customers got 2 and 2 MOLLE/ALICE adapters, since they have the eyelets, they worked to hook it on via the wire hanger. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/tglance/e71dc1b5.jpg No clue on a stove for it. That cover could mount onto molle right? Even if I attach it by zip ties. |
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Great, now I need to locate the French canteen stove thingy. This is going to turn into another Swedish-type great hunt for canteen/cookset/mess-Kit accessories.
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If a 1.5l one will work, I just got these very neat French military canteen sets in. They are a 1.5qt aluminum canteen, US style cup that fits it, and the cover. http://store.oldgrouch.biz/fralcacupand.html I have been very impressed by the quality. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/tglance/68652e78.jpg Hmmmmmmmmm. IIRC, there is a seldom-seen canteen cup stove that is compatible with the unique French canteen cups, and the inclusion of both slip-over stove and cup requires the dual snap arrangement on the pouch. More important is the pouches' attachment method, and some pix might be useful. Lucky I brought a few home! I just snapped a pic. It has the old US style wire attachment, and a wide belt loop. One of my customers got 2 and 2 MOLLE/ALICE adapters, since they have the eyelets, they worked to hook it on via the wire hanger. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/tglance/e71dc1b5.jpg No clue on a stove for it. That cover could mount onto molle right? Even if I attach it by zip ties. Zip ties or the Molle/Alice adapter would work. it will be more secure with zip ties. |
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Got my French Military canteen today. Very impressed with the quality. Fits my needs perfectly. Thanks guys
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Damn you guys!! this thread cost me money.
Where do I get one of those French stoves??????? |
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Damn you guys!! this thread cost me money. Where do I get one of those French stoves??????? That's my next quest. My canteen should be delivered tomorrow. |
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No to rain on anyone's parade but that's the stuff I started out on way back when Captain Noah ordered me off the Ark. I've moved on since then.
I still have my canteens even a old WWII desert one, but I'm stuck on lexan bottles now and a matching stainless cup that goes on the bottom like the old canteen cups. Its just a stain friendlier material, see through so you know what's in there, graduated so you can take out what you need, and a nice big wide mouth so you can not only put solids in there but attached directly to a good water filter. If I had to go back and look at the canteens I liked most, it was actually the old western style 2 qt round with the felt sides and throw over the shoulder strap. They were great. You could wet those sides and the evaporation actually kept them cool at least way cooler than an Army canteen with its pouch wetted, something to do with fast evaporation I guess. Problem is so many cheap plastic knockoffs were made, its hard to find one of the old metal style anymore, but they're out there. Tj |
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Quoted: Damn you guys!! this thread cost me money. Where do I get one of those French stoves??????? eBay has some good listings for canteens, cups and stoves. |
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No to rain on anyone's parade but that's the stuff I started out on way back when Captain Noah ordered me off the Ark. I've moved on since then. I still have my canteens even a old WWII desert one, but I'm stuck on lexan bottles now and a matching stainless cup that goes on the bottom like the old canteen cups. Its just a stain friendlier material, see through so you know what's in there, graduated so you can take out what you need, and a nice big wide mouth so you can not only put solids in there but attached directly to a good water filter. If I had to go back and look at the canteens I liked most, it was actually the old western style 2 qt round with the felt sides and throw over the shoulder strap. They were great. You could wet those sides and the evaporation actually kept them cool at least way cooler than an Army canteen with its pouch wetted, something to do with fast evaporation I guess. Problem is so many cheap plastic knockoffs were made, its hard to find one of the old metal style anymore, but they're out there. Tj TJ, are you referring to this? The subject of this thread has been something I was looking into but didn't want to start from scratch since I have the Nalgene bottles and Maxpedition molle carriers. |
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No to rain on anyone's parade but that's the stuff I started out on way back when Captain Noah ordered me off the Ark. I've moved on since then. I still have my canteens even a old WWII desert one, but I'm stuck on lexan bottles now and a matching stainless cup that goes on the bottom like the old canteen cups. Its just a stain friendlier material, see through so you know what's in there, graduated so you can take out what you need, and a nice big wide mouth so you can not only put solids in there but attached directly to a good water filter. If I had to go back and look at the canteens I liked most, it was actually the old western style 2 qt round with the felt sides and throw over the shoulder strap. They were great. You could wet those sides and the evaporation actually kept them cool at least way cooler than an Army canteen with its pouch wetted, something to do with fast evaporation I guess. Problem is so many cheap plastic knockoffs were made, its hard to find one of the old metal style anymore, but they're out there. Tj TJ, are you referring to this? The subject of this thread has been something I was looking into but didn't want to start from scratch since I have the Nalgene bottles and Maxpedition molle carriers. Yes, that's what I use with the Lexan bottles, which most call Naglene but that's a brand. There's all sorts of carrying systems and the wide mouth, you can throw in ice. I bought my cup from Campmor, quite a few of them really. They fit the Naglenes and are graduated for cooking. BTW, They sit on ebist stoves etc. a lot better than the lop sided GI cups. You're not pot holding as much. Tj |
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No to rain on anyone's parade but that's the stuff I started out on way back when Captain Noah ordered me off the Ark. I've moved on since then. I still have my canteens even a old WWII desert one, but I'm stuck on lexan bottles now and a matching stainless cup that goes on the bottom like the old canteen cups. Its just a stain friendlier material, see through so you know what's in there, graduated so you can take out what you need, and a nice big wide mouth so you can not only put solids in there but attached directly to a good water filter. If I had to go back and look at the canteens I liked most, it was actually the old western style 2 qt round with the felt sides and throw over the shoulder strap. They were great. You could wet those sides and the evaporation actually kept them cool at least way cooler than an Army canteen with its pouch wetted, something to do with fast evaporation I guess. Problem is so many cheap plastic knockoffs were made, its hard to find one of the old metal style anymore, but they're out there. Tj TJ, are you referring to this? The subject of this thread has been something I was looking into but didn't want to start from scratch since I have the Nalgene bottles and Maxpedition molle carriers. Yes, that's what I use with the Lexan bottles, which most call Naglene but that's a brand. There's all sorts of carrying systems and the wide mouth, you can throw in ice. I bought my cup from Campmor, quite a few of them really. They fit the Naglenes and are graduated for cooking. BTW, They sit on ebist stoves etc. a lot better than the lop sided GI cups. You're not pot holding as much. Tj Thanks! I agree the old metal, round canteens were awesome. I had one as a scout and then lost it over the years. Good memories with that one. |
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Quoted: No to rain on anyone's parade but that's the stuff I started out on way back when Captain Noah ordered me off the Ark. I've moved on since then. I still have my canteens even a old WWII desert one, but I'm stuck on lexan bottles now and a matching stainless cup that goes on the bottom like the old canteen cups. Its just a stain friendlier material, see through so you know what's in there, graduated so you can take out what you need, and a nice big wide mouth so you can not only put solids in there but attached directly to a good water filter. If I had to go back and look at the canteens I liked most, it was actually the old western style 2 qt round with the felt sides and throw over the shoulder strap. They were great. You could wet those sides and the evaporation actually kept them cool at least way cooler than an Army canteen with its pouch wetted, something to do with fast evaporation I guess. Problem is so many cheap plastic knockoffs were made, its hard to find one of the old metal style anymore, but they're out there. Tj Every single one of those I ever owned (back in the '60's) leaked, which, while I guess was a good thing for keeping the felt wet, also kept my pants wet. My pref is the standard 1 qt, Vietnam era canteen with the older cup that had the handle that folded under rather than the batwings. The only thing to beware of is that you want the cup to cool down before you stick the canteen back in it Yeah, I did. Of course, that was back when the canteens could be had for $1.50 all day long at any surplus store. |
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No to rain on anyone's parade but that's the stuff I started out on way back when Captain Noah ordered me off the Ark. I've moved on since then. I still have my canteens even a old WWII desert one, but I'm stuck on lexan bottles now and a matching stainless cup that goes on the bottom like the old canteen cups. Its just a stain friendlier material, see through so you know what's in there, graduated so you can take out what you need, and a nice big wide mouth so you can not only put solids in there but attached directly to a good water filter. If I had to go back and look at the canteens I liked most, it was actually the old western style 2 qt round with the felt sides and throw over the shoulder strap. They were great. You could wet those sides and the evaporation actually kept them cool at least way cooler than an Army canteen with its pouch wetted, something to do with fast evaporation I guess. Problem is so many cheap plastic knockoffs were made, its hard to find one of the old metal style anymore, but they're out there. Tj Every single one of those I ever owned (back in the '60's) leaked, which, while I guess was a good thing for keeping the felt wet, also kept my pants wet. My pref is the standard 1 qt, Vietnam era canteen with the older cup that had the handle that folded under rather than the batwings. The only thing to beware of is that you want the cup to cool down before you stick the canteen back in it Yeah, I did. Of course, that was back when the canteens could be had for $1.50 all day long at any surplus store. Yep, 60's was the start of the cheap ones, made overseas. Usual leak was the cap which had an anemic seal. If you tightened it down too tight, it would crack the cap ever so slightly and no stopping the leak. I use to just go old school on those, using a wine bottle cork. The second most common leak path was you didn't want to poke the sides with a sharp object. The same thin metal that made them cool so well, also would puncture. The plastic was a fix for that and heck the leaky cap too, but then they just didn't cool as well, not even close. I felt he same way in the Army. We still used metal canteens but the plastic ones were coming on at the same time. We all wanted the metal. Tj |
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Better to have more than one in smaller containers. One container will be bulky. I would go, get (3) 24oz small stainless steel containers = 72 oz which will cost you 5 bucks each or so. The Kleen canteens are horribly expensive and you will probably pay 40 or more bucks easily for one. Just get the ones with no paint color on them. Put 2 inside your pack and the other on your belt or in a pouch outside the pack.
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Better to have more than one in smaller containers. One container will be bulky. I would go, get (3) 24oz small stainless steel containers = 72 oz which will cost you 5 bucks each or so. The Kleen canteens are horribly expensive and you will probably pay 40 or more bucks easily for one. Just get the ones with no paint color on them. Put 2 inside your pack and the other on your belt or in a pouch outside the pack. That's good advice...two containers, even if only one is stainless steel. A simple collapsible Platypus, Nalgene or other type of "soft" canteen is a good addition. You can at least boil in the stainless and pour into the other container or while one is being treated the other is potable...rotating to keep water treated. ROCK6 |
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Shoot, just take some 3/16" dia aluminum rod. Bend up an identical handle and bottle insert, and a connector piece. Insert one end of the contraption into the neck of the bottle, and it will pick up the bottle straight every time. Put a crook in the connector, and it will hold the handle off the bottle so it doesn't get hot Oh, well, another idea given away for free. I have to admit, I am much more of a visual learner so by any chance do you have a pic of this setup? I also have to admit I'm somewhat confused by your advice. To paraphrase, you are basically recommending a "system" or bottle, cup, filter, carrier, etc. that if not necessarily all designed and built by the same company are at least designed to all fit and work together. That part I get and fully agree with, so much so I've already been working on my own kits consisting of Nalgene\Guyot SS water bottles, GSI Glacier Cup/Pot, Katadyn filter, etc. in a Condor pouch but it seems that you already have that combo and don't care for it? That's what I'm confused about, the Nalgene SS combo seems to be almost exactly what you recommended but yet you don't care for that specific combo? Is it just about the weight\bulk of that combo or are there other aspects of it you do not care for? |
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I think any kind of food grade SS bottles have liners in them that extreme heat will damage. I would advise boiling your water in a metal pot or canteen cup, then filling your canteen. The USGI issue canteens/cups are pretty hard to beat, and replacements are found anywhere. I have several, and my favorite is stamped 1941 :) The current issue canteens went down to a thinner plastic that is more susceptible to melting if they get too close to the fire, though they do save on weight a bit. I personally prefer the 70's to early 90's issue ones that have thicker walls. They just hold up! With the canteen cup fitting perfectly inside it, it's just the best system out there, I think––for the money spent. |
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I find a lot of great things on eBay for great prices, but the only 2 qt canteen I know about is the USGI canteen, I don't think you can boil in these but you can get a metal canteen cup._
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I use the Snow Peak Titanium Solo Cookset. It all nests on the bottom of a nalgene.
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I think this is a good one
Swiss canteen |
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OP, I know this isn't what you posted that you are looking for, but it's cool, and someone else reading the thread might like it. I got this set:
Granted, I've only gotten to use this a couple of times, last Oct, will post my own pics after wife has this kid and I can get out again. I got it at http://www.canteenshop.com/ They used to be closely associated with Dave Canterbury, before he got the job with Discovery. Now, not so much. I think the entire kit was made in the USA. Need to get some gel wax and make some good firestarters |
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OP, I think any kind of food grade SS bottles have liners in them that extreme heat will damage. I would advise boiling your water in a metal pot or canteen cup, then filling your canteen. The USGI issue canteens/cups are pretty hard to beat, and replacements are found anywhere. I have several, and my favorite is stamped 1941 :) The current issue canteens went down to a thinner plastic that is more susceptible to melting if they get too close to the fire, though they do save on weight a bit. I personally prefer the 70's to early 90's issue ones that have thicker walls. They just hold up! With the canteen cup fitting perfectly inside it, it's just the best system out there, I think––for the money spent. There is no need for a liner in food grade SS...that is the whole point of the food grade requirement. I have been boiling water in them for about 3 years and have tested the water ( I am not gonna drink anything that will harm me) and it tests out fine ...if not a little higher in iron! LOL) Aluminum is an absolute no no as they DO have a lined inside to keep them from corroding (usually and epoxy mix). I get the 18/8 food grade ss bottles and just make sure there is nothing on the outside. Even chinese made ones work well. |
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I use the Snow Peak Titanium Solo Cookset. It all nests on the bottom of a nalgene. Doc So do I Doc...it also fits the big 40ox Kleen canteen in ss..... |
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OP, I think any kind of food grade SS bottles have liners in them that extreme heat will damage. I would advise boiling your water in a metal pot or canteen cup, then filling your canteen. The USGI issue canteens/cups are pretty hard to beat, and replacements are found anywhere. I have several, and my favorite is stamped 1941 :) The current issue canteens went down to a thinner plastic that is more susceptible to melting if they get too close to the fire, though they do save on weight a bit. I personally prefer the 70's to early 90's issue ones that have thicker walls. They just hold up! With the canteen cup fitting perfectly inside it, it's just the best system out there, I think––for the money spent. There is no need for a liner in food grade SS...that is the whole point of the food grade requirement. I have been boiling water in them for about 3 years and have tested the water ( I am not gonna drink anything that will harm me) and it tests out fine ...if not a little higher in iron! LOL) Aluminum is an absolute no no as they DO have a lined inside to keep them from corroding (usually and epoxy mix). I get the 18/8 food grade ss bottles and just make sure there is nothing on the outside. Even chinese made ones work well. Are you saying I should not boil water in this? |
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OP, I think any kind of food grade SS bottles have liners in them that extreme heat will damage. I would advise boiling your water in a metal pot or canteen cup, then filling your canteen. The USGI issue canteens/cups are pretty hard to beat, and replacements are found anywhere. I have several, and my favorite is stamped 1941 :) The current issue canteens went down to a thinner plastic that is more susceptible to melting if they get too close to the fire, though they do save on weight a bit. I personally prefer the 70's to early 90's issue ones that have thicker walls. They just hold up! With the canteen cup fitting perfectly inside it, it's just the best system out there, I think––for the money spent. There is no need for a liner in food grade SS...that is the whole point of the food grade requirement. I have been boiling water in them for about 3 years and have tested the water ( I am not gonna drink anything that will harm me) and it tests out fine ...if not a little higher in iron! LOL) Aluminum is an absolute no no as they DO have a lined inside to keep them from corroding (usually and epoxy mix). I get the 18/8 food grade ss bottles and just make sure there is nothing on the outside. Even chinese made ones work well. Are you saying I should not boil water in this? In the cup sure... for the canteen it depends if it has a coating on the inside, my guess is no. (most of the surplus is straight aluminum) The newer aluminum canteens that are offered at dept stores every where all have a teflon or epoxy coating on the inside so as to help the aluminum from oxidising due to beverage storage. This would be very bad to boil. Straight wall aluminum canteens (no coating) are suposidly not good for storing liquid in for any period of time. Though I am sure it will be fine for interval type ussage. I know I have a couple mess kits that are aluminum etc. If you keep your eye open you can find stainless steel water bottles for cheap. I picked up some 24oz Stanley SS water bottles for 5$ each (closeout at wally world) They work great as a watterbottle and boiling. |
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No coating inside those French canteens, you can boil no problem.
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OP, I think any kind of food grade SS bottles have liners in them that extreme heat will damage. I would advise boiling your water in a metal pot or canteen cup, then filling your canteen. The USGI issue canteens/cups are pretty hard to beat, and replacements are found anywhere. I have several, and my favorite is stamped 1941 :) The current issue canteens went down to a thinner plastic that is more susceptible to melting if they get too close to the fire, though they do save on weight a bit. I personally prefer the 70's to early 90's issue ones that have thicker walls. They just hold up! With the canteen cup fitting perfectly inside it, it's just the best system out there, I think––for the money spent. There is no need for a liner in food grade SS...that is the whole point of the food grade requirement. I have been boiling water in them for about 3 years and have tested the water ( I am not gonna drink anything that will harm me) and it tests out fine ...if not a little higher in iron! LOL) Aluminum is an absolute no no as they DO have a lined inside to keep them from corroding (usually and epoxy mix). I get the 18/8 food grade ss bottles and just make sure there is nothing on the outside. Even chinese made ones work well. Are you saying I should not boil water in this? In the cup sure... for the canteen it depends if it has a coating on the inside, my guess is no. (most of the surplus is straight aluminum) The newer aluminum canteens that are offered at dept stores every where all have a teflon or epoxy coating on the inside so as to help the aluminum from oxidising due to beverage storage. This would be very bad to boil. Straight wall aluminum canteens (no coating) are suposidly not good for storing liquid in for any period of time. Though I am sure it will be fine for interval type ussage. I know I have a couple mess kits that are aluminum etc. If you keep your eye open you can find stainless steel water bottles for cheap. I picked up some 24oz Stanley SS water bottles for 5$ each (closeout at wally world) They work great as a watterbottle and boiling. Is there a way to tell for sure if it has a coating? |
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No coating inside those French canteens, you can boil no problem. Thank you |
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This How Its Made video shows how the metal canteens that are popular now are made, including how they powder coat the inside (skip to ~2min for inside coating).
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=J_Rnf_aKd-0[/youtube] youtube link |
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