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Posted: 11/3/2009 6:55:49 PM EDT
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Freakin' Scuzzyvulva. Wait, what'd I say? You spelled her name correctly. |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 6:57:37 PM EDT
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Freakin' Scuzzyvulva. Wait, what'd I say? You spelled her name correctly. 
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Posted: 11/3/2009 6:59:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:01:19 PM EDT
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maybe I'm a wee bit optimistic but there is still 30%+ needing to report on the NY-23 race
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:02:05 PM EDT
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What happened in upstate New York? WTH?  Newt was right, apparently.... Newt backed Owens!?????? 
No. Newt backed Scoz... Without Hoffman in the race (and without the subsequent pressure for Scoz to drop) she would be going to Congress, and we wouldn't be 1 seat further AWAY from taking the house back... She also would never have endorsed Owens.... Lesson: DO NOT run ideological candidates in liberal states.... WHO IS WE? Abortionists? Socialists? Certainly not Christians or Conservatives. |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:02:32 PM EDT
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Or people who don't pay attention and just vote straight party ticket.  we call those Dave_A's I loled |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:03:05 PM EDT
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Yeah, I'm with you brother. It aint over. I'm still watching the Atlanta mayoral race, bit that it really matters here in my little town. Just another indicator of the pendulum swinging. Actually, it does. I have never been a fan of Atlanta, just going there for the airport or driving through on our way to north Georgia. But if Norwood wins, I'll have a bit more respect for the city.
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:03:26 PM EDT
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maybe I'm a wee bit optimistic but there is still 30%+ needing to report on the NY-23 race More than that. The dems need to get at least 120% of the votes counted before they will declare victory.
Honest;y, I am not hopeful. Fuck Scozzafava! |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:06:10 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What happened in upstate New York? WTH? Newt was right, apparently.... Newt backed Owens!?????? No. Newt backed Scoz... Without Hoffman in the race (and without the subsequent pressure for Scoz to drop) she would be going to Congress, and we wouldn't be 1 seat further AWAY from taking the house back... She also would never have endorsed Owens.... Lesson: DO NOT run ideological candidates in liberal states.... That's not how it works. Scozzafava was a more liberal candidate than the dem. She wasn't even a RINO, she was a liberal democrat who was trying to get elected as a republican. This result is actually far better –– this puts the republicans on notice to fix themselves. Assuming Hoffman's the republican candidate next year (as he should have been this year), he'll win. Nothing that happened tonight had anything to do with "taking the house back" –– that's not a mathematical possibility. Owens (if he wins, which looks like it might be in doubt now), only gets a year until 2010. Exactly. Plus, we don't need a liberal RINO out there giving the Democraps cover to claim their proposals are "bipartisan." Of course there already is bipartisanship in the opposition to their proposals, but the lamestream media will never report that. None of that matters in the House... All that matters there, is who's in the Speaker's chair... Which is decided by #(R) vs #(D) |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:07:22 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What happened in upstate New York? WTH? Newt was right, apparently.... Newt backed Owens!?????? No. Newt backed Scoz... Without Hoffman in the race (and without the subsequent pressure for Scoz to drop) she would be going to Congress, and we wouldn't be 1 seat further AWAY from taking the house back... She also would never have endorsed Owens.... Lesson: DO NOT run ideological candidates in liberal states.... WHO IS WE? Abortionists? Socialists? Certainly not Christians or Conservatives. Conservatives who want Pelosi out of the chair, and don't see sending a few lib Rs to Congress as that bad of a trade for knocking over the Queen D.... |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:08:15 PM EDT
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What happened in upstate New York? WTH? Newt was right, apparently.... Newt backed Owens!??????
No. Newt backed Scoz... Without Hoffman in the race (and without the subsequent pressure for Scoz to drop) she would be going to Congress, and we wouldn't be 1 seat further AWAY from taking the house back... She also would never have endorsed Owens.... Lesson: DO NOT run ideological candidates in liberal states.... That's not how it works. Scozzafava was a more liberal candidate than the dem. She wasn't even a RINO, she was a liberal democrat who was trying to get elected as a republican. This result is actually far better –– this puts the republicans on notice to fix themselves. Assuming Hoffman's the republican candidate next year (as he should have been this year), he'll win. Nothing that happened tonight had anything to do with "taking the house back" –– that's not a mathematical possibility. Owens (if he wins, which looks like it might be in doubt now), only gets a year until 2010. Exactly. Plus, we don't need a liberal RINO out there giving the Democraps cover to claim their proposals are "bipartisan." Of course there already is bipartisanship in the opposition to their proposals, but the lamestream media will never report that. None of that matters in the House... All that matters there, is who's in the Speaker's chair... Which is decided by #(R) vs #(D) You're trusting a RINO to not switch parties after she gets to DC, and caucus with the Dems? Your faith is built on sandy ground, Dave. |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:08:32 PM EDT
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What happened in upstate New York? WTH? Newt was right, apparently.... Newt backed Owens!??????
No. Newt backed Scoz... Without Hoffman in the race (and without the subsequent pressure for Scoz to drop) she would be going to Congress, and we wouldn't be 1 seat further AWAY from taking the house back... She also would never have endorsed Owens.... Lesson: DO NOT run ideological candidates in liberal states.... That's not how it works. Scozzafava was a more liberal candidate than the dem. She wasn't even a RINO, she was a liberal democrat who was trying to get elected as a republican. This result is actually far better –– this puts the republicans on notice to fix themselves. Assuming Hoffman's the republican candidate next year (as he should have been this year), he'll win. Nothing that happened tonight had anything to do with "taking the house back" –– that's not a mathematical possibility. Owens (if he wins, which looks like it might be in doubt now), only gets a year until 2010. Exactly. Plus, we don't need a liberal RINO out there giving the Democraps cover to claim their proposals are "bipartisan." Of course there already is bipartisanship in the opposition to their proposals, but the lamestream media will never report that. None of that matters in the House... All that matters there, is who's in the Speaker's chair... Which is decided by #(R) vs #(D) short term vs long term |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:08:32 PM EDT
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Which is decided by #(R) vs #(D) short term vs long term ETA: double tap |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:08:54 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Christie, 50-44, 68%  Hoffman, 51-43 against Hoffman, 18% reporting  Christie, 50-44, 71% Hoffman, 51-43 against Hoffman, 21% reporting  Christie, 50-44, 74% Hoffman, 51-44 against Hoffman, 27% Christie, 49-44, 80% - Christie Declared Winner On A/P and FNC!!!   Hoffman, 51-44 against Hoffman, 31% Hoffman, 49-45 against Hoffman, 47% Hoffman, 49-46 against Hoffman, 54% Hoffman, 49-46 against Hoffman, 67% Hoffman, 49-45 against Hoffman, 71% |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:09:17 PM EDT
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What happened in upstate New York? WTH? Newt was right, apparently.... Newt backed Owens!??????
No. Newt backed Scoz... Without Hoffman in the race (and without the subsequent pressure for Scoz to drop) she would be going to Congress, and we wouldn't be 1 seat further AWAY from taking the house back... She also would never have endorsed Owens.... Lesson: DO NOT run ideological candidates in liberal states.... That's not how it works. Scozzafava was a more liberal candidate than the dem. She wasn't even a RINO, she was a liberal democrat who was trying to get elected as a republican. This result is actually far better –– this puts the republicans on notice to fix themselves. Assuming Hoffman's the republican candidate next year (as he should have been this year), he'll win. Nothing that happened tonight had anything to do with "taking the house back" –– that's not a mathematical possibility. Owens (if he wins, which looks like it might be in doubt now), only gets a year until 2010. Exactly. Plus, we don't need a liberal RINO out there giving the Democraps cover to claim their proposals are "bipartisan." Of course there already is bipartisanship in the opposition to their proposals, but the lamestream media will never report that. None of that matters in the House... All that matters there, is who's in the Speaker's chair... Which is decided by #(R) vs #(D) If thats the case, why is the House having so much trouble passing Healthcare Reform with such a huge majority and complete control of everything? I thought thats all that mattered? |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:09:51 PM EDT
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What happened in upstate New York? WTH? Newt was right, apparently.... Newt backed Owens!??????
No. Newt backed Scoz... Without Hoffman in the race (and without the subsequent pressure for Scoz to drop) she would be going to Congress, and we wouldn't be 1 seat further AWAY from taking the house back... She also would never have endorsed Owens.... Lesson: DO NOT run ideological candidates in liberal states.... That's not how it works. Scozzafava was a more liberal candidate than the dem. She wasn't even a RINO, she was a liberal democrat who was trying to get elected as a republican. This result is actually far better –– this puts the republicans on notice to fix themselves. Assuming Hoffman's the republican candidate next year (as he should have been this year), he'll win. Nothing that happened tonight had anything to do with "taking the house back" –– that's not a mathematical possibility. Owens (if he wins, which looks like it might be in doubt now), only gets a year until 2010. Exactly. Plus, we don't need a liberal RINO out there giving the Democraps cover to claim their proposals are "bipartisan." Of course there already is bipartisanship in the opposition to their proposals, but the lamestream media will never report that. None of that matters in the House... All that matters there, is who's in the Speaker's chair... Which is decided by #(R) vs #(D) You failed to notice my point. There is no taking the house back tonight. This election doesn't matter a whit in terms of the final number of dems/repubs in place tomorrow, nor does it matter in terms of the 2010 election (which Hoffman almost assuredly will win). It matters in that it's a referendum on dems who call themselves republicans. She would have switched as soon as she was elected anyway, or she'd have voted with the dems on everything that mattered (including who sits in the speaker's chair). Also, Speaker of the House is a simple majority vote of all members. It's most decidedly not dependent on #(R) vs #(D), especially not with repubs like this one. You think she'd vote for a republican? |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:10:59 PM EDT
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Conservatives who want Pelosi out of the chair, and don't see sending a few lib Rs to Congress as that bad of a trade for knocking over the Queen D.... How many is a few? |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:11:22 PM EDT
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OK, I'm going out on a limb. With 98% in, and a 4 point lead for Christie, I'm calling it for Corzine by .023% AFTER the recount/lawsuit, no later than March of 2011. Bet on it.
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:11:27 PM EDT
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Conservatives who want Pelosi out of the chair, and don't see sending a few lib Rs to Congress as that bad of a trade for knocking over the Queen D.... How many is a few?
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:12:42 PM EDT
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OK, I'm going out on a limb. With 98% in, and a 4 point lead for Christie, I'm calling it for Corzine by .023% AFTER the recount/lawsuit, no later than March of 2011. Bet on it. Too late, fortunately. He already conceded!!! 
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:13:06 PM EDT
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Conservatives who want Pelosi out of the chair, and don't see sending a few lib Rs to Congress as that bad of a trade for knocking over the Queen D.... The path to hell is paved with compromise. |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:13:13 PM EDT
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Quoted: OK, I'm going out on a limb. With 98% in, and a 4 point lead for Christie, I'm calling it for Corzine by .023% AFTER the recount/lawsuit, no later than March of 2011. Bet on it. you must have just missed his concession speech. |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:13:44 PM EDT
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DU says ACORN was out in full force...doing nothing for Corzine or the no-name Virginia guy.
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:14:09 PM EDT
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49-45 against Hoffman, 71%
What you and I will understand after this is over is that the majority voted AGAINST the democrat, but the media will never report it this way. |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:15:22 PM EDT
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OK, I'm going out on a limb. With 98% in, and a 4 point lead for Christie, I'm calling it for Corzine by .023% AFTER the recount/lawsuit, no later than March of 2011. Bet on it. Cant, from what I understand, Corzine conceded. |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:15:22 PM EDT
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49-45 against Hoffman, 71%
What you and I will understand after this is over is that the majority voted AGAINST the democrat, but the media will never report it this way. Its very telling that anyone would vote for a democrats considering what those fuckers are doing to the country. This is a nation full of morons. |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:16:04 PM EDT
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Conservatives who want Pelosi out of the chair, and don't see sending a few lib Rs to Congress as that bad of a trade for knocking over the Queen D.... How many is a few?
And therein lies the problem. |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:16:06 PM EDT
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Conservatives who want Pelosi out of the chair, and don't see sending a few lib Rs to Congress as that bad of a trade for knocking over the Queen D.... The path to hell is paved with compromise. Airborne! Enough "reaching across the aisle" maverick horseshit already. |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:17:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: 49-45 against Hoffman, 71% What you and I will understand after this is over is that the majority voted AGAINST the democrat, but the media will never report it this way. No - the lesson to take home is that a lowly measly "THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE" just kicked the shit out of a RINO turncoat Republican who was backed by none other than Newt Gingrich - AND came just a few points away from taking an entire Congressional District!  But do you think the RINOs who backed their turncoat colleague Looserfava will learn from this mistake they made? |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:17:28 PM EDT
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OK, I'm going out on a limb. With 98% in, and a 4 point lead for Christie, I'm calling it for Corzine by .023% AFTER the recount/lawsuit, no later than March of 2011. Bet on it. you must have just missed his concession speech. Didn't gore concede only to retract it? Huh? Huh? JK, I'm relying on ARFCOM for my news at this point. |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:19:16 PM EDT
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49-45 against Hoffman, 71%
What you and I will understand after this is over is that the majority voted AGAINST the democrat, but the media will never report it this way. Its very telling that anyone would vote for a democrats considering what those fuckers are doing to the country. This is a nation full of morons. You have to understand the demographics, and what the dropped-out R did to understand one thing. Even if Hoffman loses, he just shook things up a bit...as did those who voted for him. And that, is very nearly, priceless. I'm still pulling for Hoffman at this point. |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:20:38 PM EDT
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Quoted: he definitely is keeping it VERY closeQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 49-45 against Hoffman, 71% What you and I will understand after this is over is that the majority voted AGAINST the democrat, but the media will never report it this way. Its very telling that anyone would vote for a democrats considering what those fuckers are doing to the country. This is a nation full of morons. You have to understand the demographics, and what the dropped-out R did to understand one thing. Even if Hoffman loses, he just shook things up a bit...as did those who voted for him. And that, is very nearly, priceless. I'm still pulling for Hoffman at this point. |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:21:14 PM EDT
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Not sure of percentage of precincts reporting, but right now it's 48.9% Hoffman, 51.1% Owens.
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:23:28 PM EDT
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And does anyone have any gems from the DU charlie foxtrot to entertain us with?
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:23:34 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: OK, I'm going out on a limb. With 98% in, and a 4 point lead for Christie, I'm calling it for Corzine by .023% AFTER the recount/lawsuit, no later than March of 2011. Bet on it. you must have just missed his concession speech. Means nothing. Al Gore retracted his concession when the Palm Beach County Democrats told him they could find more votes. However, in this case there's just too many votes for the Democrats to make up out of thin air without being too obvious. |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:24:54 PM EDT
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And does anyone have any gems from the DU charlie foxtrot to entertain us with? Shit! I can't believe I don't have a tab open on that. Gimme a minute. here's one http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8731768 One more http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6921410 .....and I'm spent http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6920970 |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:26:38 PM EDT
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America Fuck Yeah! Way to show them who is boss, get out and vote.
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:27:51 PM EDT
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Just a note for you folks not from NY:
The 23rd is a HUGE district that encompasses almost 11 counties in Northern NY. The district is only 70% or so reported at this point and there are some 12,000 absentee ballots that still need processed/counted. Owens leads Hoffman by a few thousand votes at this point. Hunker down, because its gonna be awhile (days and maybe weeks) before a winner is declared. or minutes 
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:29:57 PM EDT
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49-45 against Hoffman, 71%
What you and I will understand after this is over is that the majority voted AGAINST the democrat, but the media will never report it this way. Its very telling that anyone would vote for a democrats considering what those fuckers are doing to the country. This is a nation full of morons. You have to understand the demographics, and what the dropped-out R did to understand one thing. Even if Hoffman loses, he just shook things up a bit...as did those who voted for him. And that, is very nearly, priceless. I'm still pulling for Hoffman at this point. Yep. Even if Hoffman loses, there is going to be a good net gain down the road because of the message it sends. Some of these leftist strongholds could not have been seriously challenged if not for Conservative voters getting to the polls. The wolf is at the door of these left-wing houses and will continue to be. |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:30:28 PM EDT
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Just a note for you folks not from NY: The 23rd is a HUGE district that encompasses almost 11 counties in Northern NY. The district is only 70% or so reported at this point and there are some 12,000 absentee ballots that still need processed/counted. Owens leads Hoffman by a few thousand votes at this point. Hunker down, because its gonna be awhile (days and maybe weeks) before a winner is declared. yeah but how many absentees are for scozzafava? |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:31:03 PM EDT
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Just a note for you folks not from NY: The 23rd is a HUGE district that encompasses almost 11 counties in Northern NY. The district is only 70% or so reported at this point and there are some 12,000 absentee ballots that still need processed/counted. Owens leads Hoffman by a few thousand votes at this point. Hunker down, because its gonna be awhile (days and maybe weeks) before a winner is declared. Plenty of time to find trunks full of ballots for Owens, like they did here. |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:34:05 PM EDT
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Just a note for you folks not from NY: The 23rd is a HUGE district that encompasses almost 11 counties in Northern NY. The district is only 70% or so reported at this point and there are some 12,000 absentee ballots that still need processed/counted. Owens leads Hoffman by a few thousand votes at this point. Hunker down, because its gonna be awhile (days and maybe weeks) before a winner is declared. Plenty of time to find trunks full of ballots for Owens, like they did here. this |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:34:35 PM EDT
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3.4% difference with about 20% left to report
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:34:46 PM EDT
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OK, I'm going out on a limb. With 98% in, and a 4 point lead for Christie, I'm calling it for Corzine by .023% AFTER the recount/lawsuit, no later than March of 2011. Bet on it. you must have just missed his concession speech. Means nothing. Al Gore retracted his concession when the Palm Beach County Democrats told him they could find more votes.
However, in this case there's just too many votes for the Democrats to make up out of thin air without being too obvious. I heard an interview with Christie stating his bunch had 300 lawyers watching for skulduggery. That right there probably made the difference. And the Conservatives better use this model in future elections. |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:43:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:48:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:56:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:56:14 PM EDT
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3.4% difference with about 20% left to report its almost silly how insanely close it is now < 14% left to report and hoffman is down 3.7% Does that include the absentees? |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 8:08:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/3/2009 8:08:51 PM EDT
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