Too funny.

Read the above posted link.

From the other thread.

Here is the story on the gun according to the man stopped by police - Robert Baillio

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"Here in Shreveport, LA, a little more than a week ago, to be exact, it was Friday, June 5th, about 9:45 in the evening. I was driving my pick-up from the Downtown Airport to my home. My wife had called and asked me to pick up an order she had called in to a local restaurant. I was about a block and a half from the restaurant when I noticed flashing lights behind me. I can honestly say that I didn’t have a clue as to why I was being stopped, but I instantly pulled over.


Picture: Robert's Truck

Right after I stopped, I got out of my truck and walked toward the tailgate. I kept my hands where he could see them and I stopped right there by the back bumper. Right there I was directly in his headlights, and I wanted to be sure he could see that I wasn’t carrying any kind of weapon, and I didn’t pose any type of threat to him.

Well he got out of his vehicle and walked toward me.

He stopped a little short of what I’d consider conversation distance, and he looked at me and said, “Do you have any firearms in your vehicle?”

I didn’t really expect him to ask me that. And I didn’t know why he asked, but I answered and said “Yes”

He asked where they were. And I really didn’t understand why he was asking me these questions. But I told him the truth, and I said “My pistol is between the drivers seat and the console.

He instantly turned and walked to the drivers side door, opened it, and removed my pistol. I stayed at the back of the truck. He approached me, held my HK 45 Compact up, and dropped the magazine. He then asked if there was a shell in the chamber, and I said, “Yes sir, there is.” He ejected it onto the ground, locked the slide back, and walked back to his patrol unit and got in it.

After a while, he got out of his car, and walked back toward me. Now let me say that since that night, in my efforts to try and find out what exactly happened to me there, I have listened to the audio from the mic on his shirt.

Now, on the audio, I could barely hear, and I didn’t understand what he said his name was, but I heard Corporal something. I also heard, “I stopped you because you failed to use your signal when changing lanes.” (or something like that) But at the time, downtown with the noise of traffic passing, his engine running . . . I don’t recall hearing him say that. But it was on the audio, so that was my official notification as to why he pulled me over. Now he never said another word about anything involving traffic, or violations or anything related to my driving.

As he got closer to me he started asking me what I consider to be odd, invasive, curious, personal, type questions that had nothing to do with my driving. His questions were more about me as a person, than me as a driver.

He asked where I was coming from and where I was going. I told him I was coming from the Downtown Airport, going home, but I was stopping at the restaurant in the next block to pick up some food my wife ordered. Then he asked what I was doing at the airport, and I told him I had been working. I was really getting the feeling that something was hanging on my answers. It was a horrible feeling. I started to really not like this situation.

Thinking back, I guess me saying I’d been at the airport flagged something in him, because he went back to his patrol unit and looked like he was talking on his radio. He was standing next to his unit with the door open, and he looked like he had one foot in the unit and the other foot on the ground.

Well the restaurant I was going to closed at 10PM, and I didn’t what to have them get stuck with my order, so while he was standing at the door of his patrol unit, I hollered, “Hey Sarge, can I ask you a question?” He walked toward me and I said, “The restaurant where I’m picking up the food closes at 19PM. I’m not sure exactly what we’re doing here, but can we move down to the next block, and let me go in the restaurant and pick up my order?”

It was at this time, well into the stop, that he asked me for my driver’s license, and I gave it to him. He told me to go ahead and drive to the restaurant, and he would follow me - so I did. When I got there I got out of my truck and pointed at the restaurant, then pointed at myself, and made a motion that sort of asked, can I go on in. He nodded yes. I went in, got my order came out, placed the order in the bed of my truck, and then stood by the tailgate where he could still have a good view of me.

Then he started asking more of the personal questions. He said “How long have you lived at this address?” And I told him about 25 years. Then he asked me if I was a member of the NRA. I answered him truthfully, “Yes sir, I am.”

Then he took out his pen, and held it right in front of my face, and he said watch the pen. I didn’t know why he wanted me to watch his pen, but I realized it must have been some part of a DWI test.

I thought this was another odd thing, since if he had thought I was drunk, he would not have let me drive from where he stopped me to the restaurant.

Then he walked back to his vehicle, reached inside, and walked toward me carrying my pistol in one hand and the magazine in the other. He said, “You have good taste in guns, and he handed me the pistol and magazine.” I asked if he had picked up the bullet he extracted from the gun, and he said yes and had put it back in the magazine.

Then he turned to walk away. He didn’t say, “you’re free to go” or anything. He just turned to walk away from me.

So I said, “Wait a minute. What’s all this about?” He sort of shook his head, as if to say nothing.

So I said, “I’m familiar with the Department of Homeland Security Threat Assessment Memo, and I think you stopped me because of my Marine Corps, Church, and Second Amendment stickers!”

He said, “You’re familiar with what?”

I said again, “The Department of Homeland Security Threat Assessment Memo.”

He said “I don’t know anything about that.”

I told him I have always supported the police and I appreciate their work, but this type of thing I don’t appreciate. Then he walked away

I called the mayor of Shreveport, on Monday June 8th. Late in the day he finally called me back. I told him that I was very uncomfortable standing on a busy street without my hand gun, and I did not believe the officer had any reason, or right to remove it from my vehicle.

He told me that during a traffic stop "My rights were suspended." At first I couldn't believe he said that. Then, I thought “no one is going to believe me when I tell them he said that” so I turned on my digital recorder and recorded the rest of our conversation.

He said my right to drive off after a policeman stops me was suspended. He was comparing my Constitutional Rights with driving off after a policeman stops you - something that is against the law.

He didn't even know what RIGHTS are."

Source: http://www.conservativedrink.com/media/Baillio-WhatHappened.asp

Read the other thread and your questions will be answered.

I've ran into two CCW holders since going active again in LE. One I never looked at the weapon, the other I held if for the duration of the stop. The only thing the two had in common was a traffic stop.

Reread it. The officer can take any ccw weapon. This also follows SCOTUS decisions.

No. One deals straight up with a stop. The other deals a stop and being under the influence. Ie. being on foot while armed and drunk.

Wrong again. An officer must be able to articulate why he felt the need to take the weapon. He does not need PC only RS. Read the other thread and all your questions will be answered.

You are wrong again on the law and court decisions allowing an officer to hold a weapon during a traffic stop.

I will say LA law seems to be more broad than established SCOTUS rulings.

Go read the other thread or use google.

Or go to the local community college and take some CJ classes.

You would lose that argument the same as those who say a person would not charge a person openly displaying a weapon.

I read it as the law of that particular state.

Personally I think CCW permits are against the 2nd Amendment are therefore unconstitutional.

YMMV

I'm more familiar with SCOTUS rulings on officers securing a weapon during a traffic stop than LA state law. Other than discussing in this thread and the other 6 page thread linked in this thread.

If you READ the other thread you will find many of your questions answered. To include the person being stopped should not have exited the vehicle, this sends the short hairs on an LEO up.

The stop was legal and the securing of the firearm was legal.