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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:35:03 AM EDT
[#1]
Works for me - wish they'd do that here.
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:37:34 AM EDT
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The roads in town here are so bad they would be better if they just turned them into gravel.
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:39:12 AM EDT
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Might as well.Way things are going there wont be many people driving on them anyway.
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:42:03 AM EDT
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Works for me - wish they'd do that here. And when the summer rains come? 
Wow. Degenerating infrastructure, almost zilch capital investment, banana republic here we come. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:42:44 AM EDT
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All the county roads here in WI are paved, but there's still township roads around here that are gravel.
If you want to see lots of gravel roads, go to Iowa or western Minnesota... |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:43:57 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Works for me - wish they'd do that here. And when the summer rains come? http://www.ssqq.com/ARCHIVE/images/siberia%2021%20337.jpg Wow. Degenerating infrastructure, almost zilch capital investment, banana republic here we come. That's dirt. Gravel doesn't do that...the worst you're going to get with gravel roads is a dusty car and maybe a little chipped paint behind your wheel wells. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:44:36 AM EDT
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Most of the roads in the state are dirt...
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:44:41 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Works for me - wish they'd do that here. And when the summer rains come? http://www.ssqq.com/ARCHIVE/images/siberia%2021%20337.jpg Wow. Degenerating infrastructure, almost zilch capital investment, banana republic here we come.  That's not a gravel road. I like them in the winter especially, less of a problem with ice. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:44:47 AM EDT
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Works for me - wish they'd do that here. And when the summer rains come? http://www.ssqq.com/ARCHIVE/images/siberia%2021%20337.jpg Wow. Degenerating infrastructure, almost zilch capital investment, banana republic here we come. Photo is from siberia and I rather they do gravel roads to save money then trying to steal more from me in taxes.
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:45:35 AM EDT
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I'd rather have a well-maintained gravel road than a paved road full of potholes and frost heaves.
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:49:16 AM EDT
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I'd rather have a well-maintained gravel road than a paved road full of potholes and frost heaves. +1 shitload. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:49:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ––bullseye––:
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Works for me - wish they'd do that here. And when the summer rains come? http://www.ssqq.com/ARCHIVE/images/siberia%2021%20337.jpg Wow. Degenerating infrastructure, almost zilch capital investment, banana republic here we come. That's dirt. Gravel doesn't do that...the worst you're going to get with gravel roads is a dusty car and maybe a little chipped paint behind your wheel wells. What do you think is under that gravel? The problem with gravel is that it has to be replaced often. In area with high rain and double especially with snow you can rut the shit out of a road with a quickness. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:50:24 AM EDT
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Welcome to W.Va. Take your pick, mud or dust.  On the bright side, W.Va. has the best and cheapest car wash bays that I've seen by far.
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:55:31 AM EDT
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Quoted: Originally Posted By ––bullseye––: Quoted: Quoted: Works for me - wish they'd do that here. And when the summer rains come? http://www.ssqq.com/ARCHIVE/images/siberia%2021%20337.jpg Wow. Degenerating infrastructure, almost zilch capital investment, banana republic here we come. That's dirt. Gravel doesn't do that...the worst you're going to get with gravel roads is a dusty car and maybe a little chipped paint behind your wheel wells. What do you think is under that gravel? The problem with gravel is that it has to be replaced often. In area with high rain and double especially with snow you can rut the shit out of a road with a quickness. Have you ever seen a gravel road before? Seriously? |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:56:37 AM EDT
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Works for me - wish they'd do that here. And when the summer rains come? http://www.ssqq.com/ARCHIVE/images/siberia%2021%20337.jpg Wow. Degenerating infrastructure, almost zilch capital investment, banana republic here we come. Look, someone who has never driven on a country road! Good gravel roads can handle a LOT of rain. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:56:49 AM EDT
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i miss the dirt roads i used to live on 
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:57:17 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Works for me - wish they'd do that here. And when the summer rains come? http://www.ssqq.com/ARCHIVE/images/siberia%2021%20337.jpg Wow. Degenerating infrastructure, almost zilch capital investment, banana republic here we come. Photo is from siberia and I rather they do gravel roads to save money then trying to steal more from me in taxes.A pic he had laying around from the motherland. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:57:18 AM EDT
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Works for me - wish they'd do that here. And when the summer rains come? http://www.ssqq.com/ARCHIVE/images/siberia%2021%20337.jpg Wow. Degenerating infrastructure, almost zilch capital investment, banana republic here we come. Look, someone who has never driven on a country road! Good gravel roads can handle a LOT of rain. THIS 
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:57:32 AM EDT
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I've been on several well maintained gravel roads here in Georgia that still turn to gumbo after a long steady rain.
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:57:42 AM EDT
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Cut welfare completely and pave the fucking roads and I'll be impressed.
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Posted: 6/15/2009 6:59:17 AM EDT
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Gravel roads are what we have in my neck of the woods here in NH.
I would welcome the bananas, though. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:05:26 AM EDT
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Guy across the street from me is a Supervisor for the Road Commission.
He says there is ZERO additional jobs being added in the state due to the road and bridge infrastructure stimulus as put forth by The One. Instead, they are cutting seasonal hires and not filling any vacancies created by attrition, namely a significant number of retirees. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:05:26 AM EDT
[#23]
shit
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:09:43 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted: Quoted: Works for me - wish they'd do that here. And when the summer rains come? http://www.ssqq.com/ARCHIVE/images/siberia%2021%20337.jpg Wow. Degenerating infrastructure, almost zilch capital investment, banana republic here we come. With the exception of parts of the panhandle, FL is all sand. Water percolates quickly through sand. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:13:53 AM EDT
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Guy across the street from me is a Supervisor for the Road Commission. He says there is ZERO additional jobs being added in the state due to the road and bridge infrastructure stimulus as put forth by The One. Instead, they are cutting seasonal hires and not filling any vacancies created by attrition, namely a significant number of retirees. From what I can tell about the way Michigan does their roads, the people doing them don't know shit. Maybe that my own ignorance but they do the same damn roads every friggin year. Im so sick of road work. Then I go to other states and its like im riding on glass. What gives? I know Michigan allows a heavier load as far as trucking goes but com on now. It is seriously ridiculous the way Michigan does the roads here. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:17:17 AM EDT
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My grandma lives in Flint, and they had a dirt road forever. I think they finally paved it a few years back. Just in time!
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:22:53 AM EDT
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Guy across the street from me is a Supervisor for the Road Commission. He says there is ZERO additional jobs being added in the state due to the road and bridge infrastructure stimulus as put forth by The One. Instead, they are cutting seasonal hires and not filling any vacancies created by attrition, namely a significant number of retirees. From what I can tell about the way Michigan does their roads, the people doing them don't know shit. Maybe that my own ignorance but they do the same damn roads every friggin year. Im so sick of road work. Then I go to other states and its like im riding on glass. What gives? I know Michigan allows a heavier load as far as trucking goes but com on now. It is seriously ridiculous the way Michigan does the roads here. Seems that way to me too. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:26:32 AM EDT
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Works for me - wish they'd do that here. And when the summer rains come? http://www.ssqq.com/ARCHIVE/images/siberia%2021%20337.jpg Wow. Degenerating infrastructure, almost zilch capital investment, banana republic here we come. gravel does not equal mud 
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:29:40 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted: Wow. Degenerating infrastructure, almost zilch capital investment, banana republic here we come. As long as the welfare recipients and UAW keep getting their cut, it's ok. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:31:46 AM EDT
[#30]
Upkeep on a gravel road a road grader once a month or less and occasionally a load of gravel. Thats alot cheaper and faster than blacktop or concrete, which equals savings.
Kansas has the best gravel roads I have ever seen, btw. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:33:35 AM EDT
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Works for me - wish they'd do that here. And when the summer rains come? http://www.ssqq.com/ARCHIVE/images/siberia%2021%20337.jpg Wow. Degenerating infrastructure, almost zilch capital investment, banana republic here we come. With the exception of parts of the panhandle, FL is all sand. Water percolates quickly through sand. IME even in the panhandle you generally have a hard bottom bellow a thin layer of mud. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:37:01 AM EDT
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Guy across the street from me is a Supervisor for the Road Commission. He says there is ZERO additional jobs being added in the state due to the road and bridge infrastructure stimulus as put forth by The One. Instead, they are cutting seasonal hires and not filling any vacancies created by attrition, namely a significant number of retirees. From what I can tell about the way Michigan does their roads, the people doing them don't know shit. Maybe that my own ignorance but they do the same damn roads every friggin year. Im so sick of road work. Then I go to other states and its like im riding on glass. What gives? I know Michigan allows a heavier load as far as trucking goes but com on now. It is seriously ridiculous the way Michigan does the roads here. Roads go to shit fast in the upper Midwest. It's just a fact of life. The salt spalls the concrete, and to a lesser degree it'll even break down the limestone. The plowing, and the frost heave just destroys roads fast. You can dig deeper roadbeds, and put down thicker slabs of concrete, and use tougher mixes of concrete with tougher aggregate, but it'll cost you, a lot. And even asphalt went crazy the past two years as oil went up in price. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:38:37 AM EDT
[#33]
Originally Posted By ––bullseye––:
All the county roads here in WI are paved, but there's still township roads around here that are gravel. If you want to see lots of gravel roads, go to Iowa or western Minnesota... I prefer those roads to the ones here in IL |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:43:47 AM EDT
[#34]
That's the reality of local government these days. The tax money you shell out is all going to the Federal Government and the states. Local government, whose responsibilities have increased, is stuck with the table crumbs.
Gravel roads make a lot of sense. I always said when they started these ambitious paving projects in rural counties that it's not good stewardship of the tax payers dollars. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:44:49 AM EDT
[#35]
I have been thinking about doing this with my girlfriends very deteriorated driveway.
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:46:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ––bullseye––:
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Works for me - wish they'd do that here. And when the summer rains come? http://www.ssqq.com/ARCHIVE/images/siberia%2021%20337.jpg Wow. Degenerating infrastructure, almost zilch capital investment, banana republic here we come. That's dirt. Gravel doesn't do that...the worst you're going to get with gravel roads is a dusty car and maybe a little chipped paint behind your wheel wells. What do you think is under that gravel? The problem with gravel is that it has to be replaced often. In area with high rain and double especially with snow you can rut the shit out of a road with a quickness. Have you ever seen a gravel road before? Seriously? Ya no shit..
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:47:56 AM EDT
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I'm surprised at the support for gravel roads.
This is an item on my agenda for Day 1 of my Imperial Reign; paving of country roads will cease. Currently paved roads will be allowed to revert to gravel, and there won't be any of the grinding silliness, just grading and dumping of gravel if needed; quality gravel is valuable. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:51:11 AM EDT
[#38]
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i miss the dirt roads i used to live on
I see peak dirt/gravel roads soon..Your house will be worth 50% more with a gravelroad. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:51:16 AM EDT
[#39]
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Originally Posted By ––bullseye––:
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Works for me - wish they'd do that here. And when the summer rains come? http://www.ssqq.com/ARCHIVE/images/siberia%2021%20337.jpg Wow. Degenerating infrastructure, almost zilch capital investment, banana republic here we come. That's dirt. Gravel doesn't do that...the worst you're going to get with gravel roads is a dusty car and maybe a little chipped paint behind your wheel wells. What do you think is under that gravel? The problem with gravel is that it has to be replaced often. In area with high rain and double especially with snow you can rut the shit out of a road with a quickness. Have you ever seen a gravel road before? Seriously? I grew up down one in north Louisiana. During bad rain storms the only reason we could get to the house was because my mom's beater Outback did better than most of the redneck's trucks. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:55:26 AM EDT
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And people always have wondered how the Romans built such great roads and aqueducts, then nothing but deterioration and relics of a great past.
Oh, and people also wonder how a republic can be seen as 'Degenerate' and faltering and gladly hand over the reigns to end corruption and bring back good roads with a "strong man" leader in charge. 
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Posted: 6/15/2009 7:58:01 AM EDT
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They have been doing that around here for the last few years. Yes I like pavement better, but when there is a pothole on the pavement here the road crew just comes in and slaps a patch on it. So after a few years there are more patches than road and you have what I call a pancake road. Its just like a bunch of asphault pancakes all stacked together. They also skimp when paving the rural roads around here, and they are like 10' wide. When they go back and gravel them they always widen them for drainage and grade them quite often. If it saves us money then I'm ok with them doing that.
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Posted: 6/15/2009 8:09:03 AM EDT
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The humble little poor county I'm in has had this practice since the last recession. The county has also started to abandon roads all together.
There was even a case were a culvert was not replaced after it failed. It was at the begining of a dead end road that lead to some river front property. The county couldn't afford to replace it as they couldn't even come up with the 20% matching funds. The residents of the 17 homes had to park as much as a mile from home and walk across a foot bridge to get to the other side of a rather deep ravine. It was a total clusterfuck trying to get those folks an access to their property. A shinning example of broken government. Plenty of finger pointing & blame storming but no one in .gov willing to do the right thing. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 8:16:14 AM EDT
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The humble little poor county I'm in has had this practice since the last recession. The county has also started to abandon roads all together. There was even a case were a culvert was not replaced after it failed. It was at the begining of a dead end road that lead to some river front property. The county couldn't afford to replace it as they couldn't even come up with the 20% matching funds. The residents of the 17 homes had to park as much as a mile from home and walk across a foot bridge to get to the other side of a rather deep ravine. It was a total clusterfuck trying to get those folks an access to their property. A shinning example of broken government. Plenty of finger pointing & blame storming but no one in .gov willing to do the right thing. Looks like a good example where the homeowners should just suck it up and replace the culvert themselves. Another reason for the increase in gravel roads. New oil refining techniques have made less asphalt, and it is therefore more expensive. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 8:18:52 AM EDT
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And people always have wondered how the Romans built such great roads and aqueducts, then nothing but deterioration and relics of a great past.
Oh, and people also wonder how a republic can be seen as 'Degenerate' and faltering and gladly hand over the reigns to end corruption and bring back good roads with a "strong man" leader in charge. Mortar and cobblestone or brick is infinitely superior to asphalt. There's one that goes through the center of town here and they have to patch a small hole maybe every 2-3 years. The asphalt roads, on the other hand, get beaten to shit. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 8:21:37 AM EDT
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The majority of the roads in VT are unpaved.
They are rarely impassably and the only real problems are the frost heaves in the spring. I see no reason why local roads need to be paved. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 8:23:25 AM EDT
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Redford, Southfield, and Farmington Hills...they still have sub's with dirt roads.
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Posted: 6/15/2009 1:42:08 PM EDT
[#47]
Gravel roads are not that bad. Everything outside city limits was gravel when I was growing up. Grandmothers house is still on a gravel road.
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Posted: 6/15/2009 1:45:20 PM EDT
[#48]
thats fucking lame.. i bet theyll do that around here soon..
the assfucks around here contracted to a NJ outfit to grind out all the road paint and repaint new stuff ... the kick in the ass.. about 15 spots they did around my area.. was all new pavement last year so the fucking paint was LESS THEN A YEAR OLD.. and they ground it all down and did a shit asshat fucking job respraying it.. |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 1:47:34 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted: Quoted: Works for me - wish they'd do that here. And when the summer rains come? http://www.ssqq.com/ARCHIVE/images/siberia%2021%20337.jpg Wow. Degenerating infrastructure, almost zilch capital investment, banana republic here we come. It's Michigan... The state is losing population at an absurd rate.... They simply do not have enough people in those areas to justify re-paving the roads... |
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Posted: 6/15/2009 1:52:33 PM EDT
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The humble little poor county I'm in has had this practice since the last recession. The county has also started to abandon roads all together. There was even a case were a culvert was not replaced after it failed. It was at the begining of a dead end road that lead to some river front property. The county couldn't afford to replace it as they couldn't even come up with the 20% matching funds. The residents of the 17 homes had to park as much as a mile from home and walk across a foot bridge to get to the other side of a rather deep ravine. It was a total clusterfuck trying to get those folks an access to their property. A shinning example of broken government. Plenty of finger pointing & blame storming but no one in .gov willing to do the right thing. Lake County? |
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