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Posted: 1/9/2002 6:43:40 AM EDT
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3000-4000 rounds of ammo, for 200 guns, I call bullshit on that one! Either way less guns or way more ammo.
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Posted: 1/9/2002 6:50:46 AM EDT
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Hate to say it, if true, the guy is a dumbass to go about threatening people with anything. Multiple felonies with the AW addon. Even if he beats the terrorist threat felony, he has the AW felonies.
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Posted: 1/9/2002 6:56:04 AM EDT
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I does sound like he is a dumbass, based on the media report. Chalk one up for the Brady Bunch.
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Posted: 1/9/2002 7:06:53 AM EDT
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Number of Guns: I really don't see much practicality in having more firearms than are needed to fully equip family members or possibly extended family members as well.
Of course collecting is a different story and doesn't have much to do with practicality. Better to have more ammo and magazines with load bearing equipment to make a more effective family "arsenal". |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 7:10:33 AM EDT
[#5]
Hey, let's give a round of applause to the media...this time when they said "arsenal", they didn't mean 5-6 guns...they really got the term right this time.
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Posted: 1/9/2002 7:15:26 AM EDT
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Quoted: Hey, let's give a round of applause to the media...this time when they said "arsenal", they didn't mean 5-6 guns...they really got the term right this time. And let's give a round of applause to ken2483 for finding the bright side of this story. [:D] |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 7:42:23 AM EDT
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Quoted: After being fired, “Apparently, he called several times to the plant,” Amormino said. “He made threats to employees and supervisors that he had a lot of guns and he would come back and shoot them.” What a moron! I checked that department's website, [url]www.ocsd.org[/url] and the only booking i could find for Terrorist Threats is this one: Inmate Name: Reza, David Lee Booking Number: 2039561 Date of Birth: 01-02-1958 Sex: Male Race: White Height: 6' 01 Weight: 210 lbs. Hair Color: Black Eye Color: Brown Occupation: Next Appearance Date: 01-10-2002 Next Appearance Court: HARBOR JUSTICE CENTER SOUTH Housing Location: Intake Release Center (Men); Module IN Custody Status: In Custody Bail Amount: Ineligible Arrested on: 01-08-2002 at 18:30 Case Summary - 1 Case: Case Book Date Significant Charge Warrant / Case Number Jurisdiction Disposition BK 01-08-02 PC 422 HARBOR JUSTICE CENTER SOUTH Booking Case: Case Name: Booked on: 01-08-2002 at 22:14 Warrant / Case Number: Bail Amount: NO BAIL Jurisdiction: HARBOR JUSTICE CENTER SOUTH Arresting Agency: ORANGE COUNTY SHERIFF Number of Charges: 1 Count Degree Code Section Description 01 Felony PC 422 THREAT TO TERRORIZE |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 7:48:50 AM EDT
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When Fox News cut in with this story the 'reporter' was mentioning the 'several assault weapons' while a nervous LEO was fingering a Model '94 and then picked up a single shot H&R .20 ga! It was kind of a funny sight.
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Posted: 1/9/2002 8:00:10 AM EDT
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As much as the thought of innocent firearms getting destroyed bugs me, it sounds like the guy has a few screws loose and should not have any weapons in his possession.
We don't need people like that on our side. |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 8:03:02 AM EDT
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Here is the report from the Orange County Register. BTW-The O.C. Reg. is an anomaly in Calif news papers, in that they are pretty pro-gun. Actually I believe they owners are Libertarians.
=================================================== http://www.ocregister.com/breakingnews/updates/09sanonofre.shtml Wednesday, January 9, 2002 Fired worker arrested for San Onofre threats Weapons found in a rented shed and his Laguna Niguel home. January 9, 2002 By GREG RISLING The Associated Press LOS ANGELES — A recently fired nuclear plant worker was arrested for allegedly threatening plant employees, and about 150 weapons were found in a shed he rented and in his home, authorities said. The man, whose name was not immediately released, was booked for investigation of terrorist threats and was being held in the Orange County Men's Central Jail in Santa Ana. He was arrested Tuesday at his Laguna Niguel home. The man was fired from his job at the San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station in north San Diego County in recent weeks, said Orange County sheriff's spokesman Jim Amormino. The plant, 65 miles south of Los Angeles, is owned by Southern California Edison. Officials served a search warrant early today on a storage shed in San Juan Capistrano rented by the man. They found about 150 weapons along with thousands of rounds of ammunition in the storage unit and at his home. "We take every threat seriously, especially those from former employees of a nuclear power plant," Amormino said. "Is the person capable of carrying out the threat? Considering we found a cache of weapons and ammunition, we think the answer is yes." Two sheriff's deputies were overcome by fumes at the shed from an unknown chemical, said Lt. Greg Russell. Authorities described the chemical as a yellow vapor from an ammunition canister. The deputies were taken to a hospital to be examined, and a hazardous material team was sent to the site. Russell said a friend of the suspect contacted authorities earlier this week and told them the man had threatened plant employees. The nature of the threats was not immediately released. Copyright 2002 The Orange County Register |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 8:22:33 AM EDT
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Quoted: As much as the thought of innocent firearms getting destroyed bugs me, it sounds like the guy has a few screws loose and should not have any weapons in his possession. We don't need people like that on our side. No offense, but a lot of gun owners that I have met have "a few screws loose." I know it's their constitutional right to own firearms, but if you just talk them for a few minutes, you'd think "Omigod, how the hell did he get a gun?" |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 8:27:00 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: As much as the thought of innocent firearms getting destroyed bugs me, it sounds like the guy has a few screws loose and should not have any weapons in his possession. We don't need people like that on our side. No offense, but a lot of gun owners that I have met have "a few screws loose." I know it's their constitutional right to own firearms, but if you just talk them for a few minutes, you'd think "Omigod, how the hell did he get a gun?" I've definitely met a couple of yahoos that had no business owning a firearm. Or eating with a fork, for that matter. |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 8:30:38 AM EDT
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This guy would not qualify as a friend of mine. Making stupid threats is...stupid! I do not fault him in any way for owning an "arsenal", but being a dangerous jerk is not part of the Second Amendment. Watch-Six
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Posted: 1/9/2002 8:36:19 AM EDT
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Yeah, the guy is an idiot for making threats like that, but I thought this statement was interesting.
Amormino said some of the assault rifles were illegal to own in California. Absolutely untrue. There is nothing "illegal to own" in California, even machine guns, [i]except[/i] without the proper registration. Amorino may have meant they weren't registered but that does not mean the assault rifles in and of themselves were illegal to own. |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 8:36:37 AM EDT
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The scary thing is that I live in Laguna Niguel. One of the safest cities in the good ole USA. We're next to Mission Viejo, considered the third safest city in the US.
Lots and lots of Republicans. One of the few cities that voted republican in the last election in California. This guy is not the only guy with an "arsenal" in this city. Lots of well to do folks with cash to burn on firearms. |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 8:39:39 AM EDT
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Quoted: 3000-4000 rounds of ammo, for 200 guns, I call bullshit on that one! Either way less guns or way more ammo. [beer] Agreed, what good (if not a collector) are 200 guns without the ammunition for them. I have 3000-4000 rounds for my AR and SAR1 [b]each[/b]. (I shoot alot and like to have a revolving inventory) My guess is that alot of you could say the same if not exceed that ammount. Most People who do not have experiance with shooting (and some that do) have no idea of what is considered alot or a little amount of ammo. I'm sure that many would think that 50-100 rounds is alot. You guys know how fast 50-100 rounds can end up down range. If I was ever in the "news" I'm positive that I would immediately be portrayed as some psycho-terrorist-anti government-rambo wanabe-bent on killing women and children without remorse. Yup, this guy is not to bright and based on the story he probably really is a threat. Losing his firearms is his own damn fault. I've been "recently terminated" (layed-off) twice in the past two years. Shit happens, the world does not end. Appears to me that he is not capable of dealing with lifes stresses and it was real easy to blame someone else for his misfortune and lash out in a destructive way. I don't feel sorry for him, must be that mid-life crisis thing. |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 8:45:09 AM EDT
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Quoted: " a friend of the suspect contacted authorities earlier this week and told them the man had threatened plant employees. The nature of the threats was not immediately released." Copyright 2002 The Orange County Register I just noticed this after re-reading the thread. So it was one of his bud's that ratted on him. If he's smart, he'll make himself real scarce when the guy gets out. Then of course, only an idiot would tell [i] anybody [/i] they intended to commit a violent act. Especially with a collection like he had. What are the chances that this forum was on his Favorites List (provided he had a computer and internet access), and that the investigating agency assigned to the case is reviewing this site for any info? I'm puttin' on my tin foil hat right the f**k now! [:D] |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 8:50:48 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: As much as the thought of innocent firearms getting destroyed bugs me, it sounds like the guy has a few screws loose and should not have any weapons in his possession. We don't need people like that on our side. No offense, but a lot of gun owners that I have met have "a few screws loose." I know it's their constitutional right to own firearms, but if you just talk them for a few minutes, you'd think "Omigod, how the hell did he get a gun?" OK, it's cool to have a few screws loose (I know I do) but once you start threatening people you have stepped over the line. |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 8:53:22 AM EDT
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Quoted: The scary thing is that I live in Laguna Niguel. One of the safest cities in the good ole USA. We're next to Mission Viejo, considered the third safest city in the US. Lots and lots of Republicans. One of the few cities that voted republican in the last election in California. This guy is not the only guy with an "arsenal" in this city. Lots of well to do folks with cash to burn on firearms. Its a small point of distinction, but with Kali gun laws, your town ain't the safest in the USA - just the LUCKIEST, so far. Guns = safety. And with Kali gun laws, y'all are a little low on guns. Peace. |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 10:14:58 AM EDT
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Quoted: Its a small point of distinction, but with Kali gun laws, your town ain't the safest in the USA - just the LUCKIEST, so far. Guns = safety. And with Kali gun laws, y'all are a little low on guns. Peace. I'd rather be lucky than good. [:D] Guns do not equal safety. Guns in the hands of SANE people equal safety. Do you absolutely know we're a little low on guns? [;)] Peace out, yo. |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 10:24:33 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted: And with Kali gun laws, y'all are a little low on guns. [img]http://www.fightingcock.com/images/jokester.gif[/img] |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 10:36:35 AM EDT
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Quoted: [img]http://www.fightingcock.com/images/jokester.gif[/img] Here's the haiku version: We have no guns here Dumped them all in the ocean (our machine tools sing) |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 10:58:18 AM EDT
[#23]
Just be glad the fool never made good on his threats.
200 ain't that many guns. I would like to an inventory of what he had. I don't think he ought be called a terrorist. Just a Stupid Jerk who let his alligator mouth overload his jaybird ass. |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 10:58:25 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted: Quoted: And with Kali gun laws, y'all are a little low on guns. [img]http://www.fightingcock.com/images/jokester.gif[/img] I'm going to have to second that motion to laugh at garandman. |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 10:59:29 AM EDT
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I'm just glad they caught the SOB before he took one of those AW to work and let loose causing the screwed up poly's here in Cali to inforce yet another useless AW ban in Cali.
Hell it's bad enough already. Sh*t look at my Cali legal AR already. Ugly aint it [img]http://www.ehomebook.com/users/netrig/images/caliar.bmp[/img] |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 11:01:49 AM EDT
[#26]
You actually made your gun legal?
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Posted: 1/9/2002 11:02:56 AM EDT
[#27]
[;)] "shhhh " uh un
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Posted: 1/9/2002 11:04:15 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: And with Kali gun laws, y'all are a little low on guns. [img]http://www.fightingcock.com/images/jokester.gif[/img] I'm going to have to second that motion to laugh at garandman. And y'all are pretty typical of yer average Califonian, right??? [}:D] I think not. [:D] |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 11:05:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/9/2002 11:06:14 AM EDT
[#30]
This guy got what he deserved. If he was stupid enough to threaten people, over his lost job, he should be locked up.
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Posted: 1/9/2002 11:11:56 AM EDT
[#31]
Anyone want to make a guess as to what the "toxic" substance in the ammo can is? Possibly copper or powder solvent. Nah couldnt be, hes a terrorist. Must be mustard gas.
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Posted: 1/9/2002 12:20:52 PM EDT
[#32]
netrig,
If your rifle is registered, it can have a pistol grip and a magazine (provided the magazine was possessed prior to 2000). If it is not registered, then your 'Cali legal AR' will look like this: |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 12:25:31 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted: And with Kali gun laws, y'all are a little low on guns. [img]http://www.fightingcock.com/images/jokester.gif[/img] I'm going to have to second that motion to laugh at garandman. And y'all are pretty typical of yer average Califonian, right??? [}:D] I think not. [:D] This is coming from a guy in SC? I think there is a larger ratio of gun owners in SC only because there's less people there. How many people live in SC? Probably not more than the city of San Francisco. I suspect that there are more gun owners in California than there are people in SC. |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 12:27:52 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted: [;)] "shhhh " uh un LOL. Uh, yeah, all my guns are legal and they're all registered, too. Yeah, that's the ticket. I'm totally telling the truth. I wouldn't ever lie or tell an untruth. |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 12:35:35 PM EDT
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Quoted: This is coming from a guy in SC? I think there is a larger ratio of gun owners in SC only because there's less people there. How many people live in SC? Probably not more than the city of San Francisco. I suspect that there are more gun owners in California than there are people in SC. That 'ratio per capita' is VERY important as crimes are ALSO reported per capita. The total # of people is fairly irrelevant. My point, my good man, is that Kali is slowly outlawing guns. Just recently, SC legalized Class III ownership. Comparatively, just recently, Kali de facto outlawed new semiauto firearms ownership. Were getting MORE guns per capita, you are getting less. As crime stats are interpreted in per capita terms, we are getting safer as the legal guns per criminal is going up here, but its going down there. In short John, Kali sucks. I can't IMAGINE why or HOW anyone could stand living there. That said, I am sure you are an excellent individual, and count you as my brother in arms . |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 12:44:32 PM EDT
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garandman, you're forgetting about the 'unintended consequences' of California's gun laws. Gun sales in California have been brisque for many years, surpassing all other states, as people ran out and bought what they could while they still can. I don't have the figures in front of me but it should be easy enough to look up. The main reason gun sales in California are down now is because the market here is saturated. Most people already have all the guns they wanted. Of course there's the economy but that affects sales all over the country.
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Posted: 1/9/2002 12:53:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: My point, my good man, is that Kali is slowly outlawing guns. Huh? Tell me where that's coming from. We keep getting more stupid laws, true. But most of it simply creates more hoops to jump through, if nothing else. Comparatively, just recently, Kali de facto outlawed new semiauto firearms ownership. Where did this come from? I haven't heard anything of the sort. In short John, Kali sucks. I can't IMAGINE why or HOW anyone could stand living there. That said, I am sure you are an excellent individual, and count you as my brother in arms . Naw, Kali doesn't suck. Kali laws and Politicians suck. The weather certainly doesn't suck here. |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 12:56:57 PM EDT
[#38]
The Caliban regime has control over everything in Califorked so it is impossible that he had all those weapons of mass destruction. It must be a media ploy by the right wing! Everyone knows gun control works and that the Caliban protects the citizens and the possibility of this incident is null....
Just look at all those big cities with crime rates of zero... For example, there's uhh... hmmm... well.... Ok, then there is uuuuuuuhhhh........ mmmmmm.... well we can always use as an example uhhhhhhhhh well you know.... Just goes to show yet again that you cannot legislate against crazy bastards. All the laws in the world can't stop a lunatic. A .45 will stop a lunatic better than a book stamped with "The Code of the Great State of |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 1:25:35 PM EDT
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Back on topic
Kcal9 confirms the suspect's name is David Reza. Total count is; 254 guns approx 5K of ammo undisclosed amount of cocaine. Press conference in a half hour. The chemical in the ammo can ended up being a leaking container of a Mace/teargas/OC spray type product. Not Hoppe's as some here speculated. On the news footage I saw several old revolvers & break action shotguns. Saw a couple 37 or 40mm rounds of an unknown type. Saw one LAW rocket, most likely inert. Saw one 20mm ammocan link ammo for the LAV25 comes in. I'm sure everything will be on display for the press conference. Anyone on the Board know David Reza? Did he post here? One of Imbroglio's buddies? |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 1:28:16 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted: garandman, you're forgetting about the 'unintended consequences' of California's gun laws. Gun sales in California have been brisque for many years, surpassing all other states, as people ran out and bought what they could while they still can. I don't have the figures in front of me but it should be easy enough to look up. The main reason gun sales in California are down now is because the market here is saturated. Most people already have all the guns they wanted. Of course there's the economy but that affects sales all over the country. BB- I hope you're right. I do. I really do. [:D] |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 1:35:13 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted: In short John, Kali sucks. I can't IMAGINE why or HOW anyone could stand living there. That said, I am sure you are an excellent individual, and count you as my brother in arms . Well, it's not the third largest state for nothing. If it was really bad, why would people still move here? Anyhow, I hope that when and if the shtf, I'll be right there with you laying down covering fire with my outlawed AR. [beer] |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 1:40:40 PM EDT
[#42]
Actually, Kali DOES suck. Most bad ideas come from your freakin' state and hop a jetliner to the northeast. Like Washington DC and CT. Not to mention MA and RI. And NY. And NJ. And MD. And on and on and on.
Yup, Kali sucks. Let's all move to Utah or something. |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 1:41:37 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted: Well, it's not the third largest state for nothing. If it was really bad, why would people still move here? Anyhow, I hope that when and if the shtf, I'll be right there with you laying down covering fire with my outlawed AR. [beer] that's a roger. Actually, the rest of us in "Free America" (excludes CT, NJ, MD and Chicago) are planning an extraction of Kali patriots like yourself. "When? " you ask. I can't tell ya, you'll just know. [:D] (CT, NJ, MD and Chicago patriots will require their own extraction [:D] ) |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 1:45:13 PM EDT
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Quoted: Actually, Kali DOES suck. Most bad ideas come from your freakin' state and hop a jetliner to the northeast. Like Washington DC and CT. Not to mention MA and RI. And NY. And NJ. And MD. And on and on and on. Yup, Kali sucks. Let's all move to Utah or something. Ok, so you're saying that the people in your state can't think for themselves? The root of all evil comes from my state? Well, actually, I do get evil thoughts every twenty seconds or so. Opps, most of that is disgusting sexual positions with my secretary. [sex] |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 1:45:16 PM EDT
[#45]
Where's the rallying point?
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Posted: 1/9/2002 1:46:52 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted: Quoted: Actually, Kali DOES suck. Most bad ideas come from your freakin' state and hop a jetliner to the northeast. Like Washington DC and CT. Not to mention MA and RI. And NY. And NJ. And MD. And on and on and on. Yup, Kali sucks. Let's all move to Utah or something. Ok, so you're saying that the people in your state can't think for themselves? The root of all evil comes from my state? Well, actually, I do get evil thoughts every twenty seconds or so. Opps, most of that is disgusting sexual positions with my secretary. [sex] Yes. That is exactly what I am saying. |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 1:53:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Actually, Kali DOES suck. Most bad ideas come from your freakin' state and hop a jetliner to the northeast. Like Washington DC and CT. Not to mention MA and RI. And NY. And NJ. And MD. And on and on and on. Yup, Kali sucks. Let's all move to Utah or something. Ok, so you're saying that the people in your state can't think for themselves? The root of all evil comes from my state? Well, actually, I do get evil thoughts every twenty seconds or so. Opps, most of that is disgusting sexual positions with my secretary. [sex] Yes. That is exactly what I am saying. The people in your state can't think or my evil fantasies with my secretary? |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 1:55:36 PM EDT
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Doh!
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Posted: 1/9/2002 2:02:44 PM EDT
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Quoted: Doh! K, which one is it? |
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Posted: 1/9/2002 2:09:28 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Doh! K, which one is it? The portion of your quote which preceded your description of workplace sexual fantasies. I certainly hope your secretary is female![shock] |
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