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Posted: 10/19/2008 4:55:52 PM EDT
[#1]
Armored Piercing Incendiary, API 22LR for short.
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Posted: 10/19/2008 5:00:37 PM EDT
[#2]
I prefer .22 APIT |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 5:01:28 PM EDT
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I've never ordered any and I have ordered quite a few odd things to include 9mm hollowpoint, .38 special ball, and .45acp. Would .22lr be a COTS item?
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Posted: 10/19/2008 5:02:16 PM EDT
[#4]
Or 22LR HEDP, that stuff is badass. |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 5:03:05 PM EDT
[#5]
is it for rifle M10/22?
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Posted: 10/19/2008 5:05:11 PM EDT
[#6]
Probably commercial packed into an ammo can and marked up. When I was doing the combat shotgun course in the Marines, we opened the sealed ammo cans and inside was commercial boxes of 12 Ga. Winchester I think, can't remember for sure.
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Posted: 10/19/2008 5:05:52 PM EDT
[#7]
Clearly the .22APFSDS is the mother of all .22 loads. |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 5:07:26 PM EDT
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Im partial to the .22APMDUIS |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 5:18:30 PM EDT
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Having fun aren'tcha?  I was just wondering what 22LR was used in their trainers or if there was some sort of sub-sonic loads for suppressed weapons. |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 5:18:56 PM EDT
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I was being serious. We get our birdshot Commercial Off The Shelf or COTS. I know 12 Ga. buckshot, 9mm hollowpoint, .38 special, and .45acp all still have a valid NSN and are orderable through the DoD. 12 Ga. birdshot does not have an NSN. We let the guys buy it from a local sporting goods store. I would bet military .22lr would be the same way if there was no old NSN still active from when the M261 kits and Ruger MKIIs were being used. My guess would be 550 round value packs of any brand. |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 5:19:27 PM EDT
[#11]
What about the .22 sabot?
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Posted: 10/19/2008 5:22:28 PM EDT
[#12]
lol wut |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 5:32:07 PM EDT
[#13]
I was on an Army JROTC rifle team in high school, we received military issue .22lr in white boxes for practice and some matches, for close matches our coach would issue Eley Tenex.
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Posted: 10/19/2008 5:37:38 PM EDT
[#14]
SSS-s Super Secret Sniper - shh 
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Posted: 10/19/2008 5:41:59 PM EDT
[#15]
I don't know about "M" or "Mk" designations but I do know that NALC A086 is .22LR match ammo
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Posted: 10/19/2008 5:47:33 PM EDT
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Realistically the the Aguila Sub-Sonic Sniper (SSS) 60gr ammo is probably the only thing i'd ever consider shooting at someone out of a .22lr. Unless there is something else out there I don't know about.
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Posted: 10/19/2008 6:23:37 PM EDT
[#17]
The stuff I bought from the CMP was Remington hi-speed 40 grain standard stuff in the yellow and green commercial boxes, 10 bricks to the case.
I recall seeing Winchester T-22 boxes. I imagine the military will buy anything that meets pressure/velocity/accuracy specs. It is not like it is combat ammo that must be garanteed to work. |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 6:35:21 PM EDT
[#18]
Yes the military buys most 22 ammo commercialy but has contracted for HV and Pistol Match ammo.
Of the ammo I've been issued the contract white box HV is Federal, Pistol Match Winchester. Ammo is designated ( BALL, CAL. 22 LONG RIFLE ) Comercial ammo. Eley Tenex  Eley pistol match 1980's white/green box Remington Pistol match Remington Golden Bullet HV Only the contract white box HV/SV and Remington Pistol Match were packaged in ammo cans. |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 6:38:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/19/2008 6:42:07 PM EDT
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I bought some .22lr Raufoss rounds from a guy at a gunshow. Haven't had to use them yet, fortunately, but if the squirrels around here get uppity, I'm all set.
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Posted: 10/19/2008 6:43:48 PM EDT
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Pff, that's .50 BMG at long range. Take out a couple targets a mile away, and sometime later, the sound of a faint crackle arrives.  Like 30mm from above. *p-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t--t-tt-t* <half the enemy explodes> ... ... ... *BRRRRRPT* |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 6:49:47 PM EDT
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I have a case [and a couple bricks] of Rem with a NSN # that I got with my M261. It was their 1522 spec ammo. It is actually VERY consistant ammo and I've yet to have even gotten a dud yet. All reports are consistant and it has never failed to cycle the M261. They feed very well also. |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 6:59:02 PM EDT
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I read a story awhile back on Israeli units using .22LR as a riot suppression technique … They'd basically hang back, look for the people that were inciting the riots, and kneecap 'em. Apparently rioters tend not to stick around when the guys stirring shit up suddenly drop with a popped knee.
See if I can find the story. |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 6:59:31 PM EDT
[#24]
In the 80's my dad would bring home remington in 50rd green box....that was in hawaii...
ETA golden bullet.....checked google for a pic.... on a sadder not my dad used a golden bullet to do himself in 
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Posted: 10/19/2008 7:03:56 PM EDT
[#25]
What is the NSN and I will look it up when I go back to work. |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 7:08:59 PM EDT
[#26]
Cartridge, Caliber .22, Ball, Long Rifle, DODAC 1305-A086
Cartridge, Caliber .22, Ball, Long Rifle M24, DODAC 1305-A086 Cartridge, Caliber .22, Tracer, Long Rifle M861, DODAC 1305-A090 |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 7:13:22 PM EDT
[#27]
Are those two dodics still active? |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 7:17:48 PM EDT
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Here's the markings. Contract #DAAA09-78-C-0087 NSN 1305-00-819-6017 RA-79B102-006 L02A2 I'm sure it's civ 1522 stuff but it is the most consistant Rem green box stuff I have EVER shot even with the age of it. |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 7:22:14 PM EDT
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I have an all white box from some .22 ammo, and on the back printed in black it says Remington.
On the front of the box, is printed: 1305-01-257-2559-A106 50 CTG CAL 22 LR SV RA-95D001-064 It came from some guys at my rifle club who shoot at the National Matches at Camp Perry. |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 7:23:46 PM EDT
[#30]
I've been shooting up my stock of these Remington White Box:
1305-01-257-2559-A106 500 Cartridges, Cal .22 Long Rifle Standard Velocity RA-94K001-025 CMP sold these at a penny apiece in 500 round bricks, 5,000 round boxes. |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 7:25:43 PM EDT
[#31]
I'll look up dodics A086, A090, and A106 and NSNs 1305-00-819-6017 and 1305-01-257-2559 when I go into work and see if I can still order them.
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Posted: 10/19/2008 7:32:51 PM EDT
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The classic suppressed 10/22 picture. The Izzy's use them for pali dogs when they are on a patrol/raid. They refer to them as the "hush puppy".
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Posted: 10/20/2008 4:38:02 PM EDT
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The Remington HV Golden bullet ammo has suffered from bad storage, it is stored in factory cardboard cases. expect alot of tarnished ammo and duds. Best avoided. Winchester white box contract HV ( subcontracted to Federal ) is better and comes in 5100 cans but also is old and most of bullets have lead oxidation. Winchester Pistol match is still in system , that is what we get consistantly every year. Good stuff in both pistols and rifles. NSN 1305-00-585-4945 A09 . Can on bottom, get this stuff if you can.  |
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Posted: 10/20/2008 4:44:16 PM EDT
[#34]
I bought a bunch of Israeli surplus .22lr, it was Winchester T-22 marked with hebrew packaging. Good shooting stuff. |
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Posted: 10/20/2008 4:50:19 PM EDT
[#35]
CMP sold some 22lr ammo they got from the mil that was Winchester 22T ammo.
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Posted: 10/20/2008 4:53:10 PM EDT
[#36]
Iv'e heard there was alot of actual jacketed .22 ammo in use in the day.
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Posted: 10/20/2008 5:12:18 PM EDT
[#37]
Same here. We went through 50,000 rounds of Olin-Winchester white box (equivalent to T22) and 10,000 rounds of Eley Tenex each year. It was a hell of way to spend 2nd period 5 days a week for Sophomore, Junior, and Senior years
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Posted: 10/20/2008 5:21:54 PM EDT
[#38]
This thread is turning out much cooler than I expected.
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Posted: 10/20/2008 6:34:01 PM EDT
[#39]
It was made during WW2 for use in High Standards to comply with the Conventions banning lead bullets. Very Very Rare stuff and highly collectable. |
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Posted: 10/20/2008 6:39:27 PM EDT
[#40]
I thought they aimed for the dick? like this guy: 
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Posted: 10/20/2008 6:40:48 PM EDT
[#41]
I'm pretty sure he was talking about 5.56 |
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Posted: 10/20/2008 6:41:36 PM EDT
[#42]
Special Forces assassins use .22LR because the bullets ricochet off the skull and bounce around in the brain.
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Posted: 10/21/2008 2:04:25 AM EDT
[#43]
Nope. Pretty sure i was talking about jacketed .22LR. Jacketed 5.56 isn't exactly uncommon....
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Posted: 10/21/2008 3:04:27 AM EDT
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The one box of military .22 I've got reads:
50 CARTRIDGES BALL, CAL. .22 LONG RIFLE LOT WCC 6199 __________________ WINCHESTER-WESTERN DIVISION OLIN MATHIESON CHEMICAL CORPORATION NEW HAVEN, CONN. AND EAST ALTON, ILL. |
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Posted: 10/21/2008 3:11:32 AM EDT
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Although I've never used it, they do make a 22lr conversion kit like the Ciener kit for training, that uses 22lr. I believe it was for use on smaller indoor ranges that many armories have in the basement, designed for pistols. |
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Posted: 10/21/2008 8:24:53 AM EDT
[#46]
The Military did have a .22 cartridge with an "M" designation.
Cartridge, Caliber .22, Ball, Long Rifle, M24. DODAC: 1305-A089 The cartridge is intended for use against small game for survival purposes. It is shown in TM 43-0001-27, and classified as obsolete. The drawing shows what appears to be a jacket on the bullet, and a bullet shape that is different from "normal" .22 LR bullets. |
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Posted: 10/21/2008 1:54:18 PM EDT
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I looked it up today and dodics A086 and A090 are still in the system and are suitable subs for each other. Not only are they still in the system able to be ordered, but there are tons of them physically out there. So there you go. Military .22lr does exist and is just standard Remington ball ammo. |
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