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Posted: 8/1/2007 3:56:29 PM EDT

Please post here if you gave the boot to Ebay and/or Paypal.

I'd like to see some numbers - and have one place that our collective effort can be quantified.

I used Ebay to buy reloading brass about 3 times a year for the last 3 years or so. I generally don't pick up all I shoot, so I'd run low, then buy on Ebay. Found some great deals.

But no more.

Kicked Paypal to the curb as well.

Fuck 'em both.

To: eBay Customer Support
From: backstop73
Subject: Account Closure Request

Close my account.

In consideration of your anti-gun stance - and now your anti-reloading supplies stance - I will cease all shopping on Ebay, and will close that account along with my PayPal account.

I will continue to use your site as a resource if I decide to shop for an item, but I will contact the vendor directly rather than use Ebay as an intermediary.

Signed,

Backstop73

Reason For Closing Account

We're sorry to see you go! Customer satisfaction is very important to us and the answers you provide below can make a difference in how we address the needs of our customers.

Where can we improve? What services or features should we provide? By sharing why you are closing your PayPal account, you will help us improve the overall PayPal service.

PayPal Policies / User Agreement terms (I checked this reason)

Comments:
Please enter thoughts or concerns about the PayPal service.

Close my account.

In consideration of your affiliation with Ebay and their anti-gun stance - and now their anti-reloading supplies stance - I will stop using my PayPal account.

Signed,

Backstop

Close Account

If you click the Close Account button all of your outstanding transactions will automatically be cancelled and your account will be closed.

Because your remaining balance is less than $1.50 USD (our check processing fee), you will not receive a check for your balance.

You have successfully closed your account.

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:02:25 PM EDT

[#1]

I closed my accounts with them 2 or 3 yrs ago. I think it was when they would close and seaze account for the mere mention of "firearms" in the transaction.

Don't miss them.

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:03:22 PM EDT

[#2]

I actually set up a paypal account under a fake name, and with a bank connection that can't be tied to me.

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:04:55 PM EDT

[#3]

Got me wondering, so I went and looked.

Hello, backstop73(19)

I've never sold anything, but have purchased only 19 times in the last 4 years or so.

Doubt they'll miss me.

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:06:58 PM EDT

[#4]

I have also voiced my opinion of their new firerms policy via email to ebay

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:11:32 PM EDT

[#5]

I use them both.

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:12:39 PM EDT

[#6]

i just activated my new paypal debit card 5 minutes ago and bought a synthetic undershirt on ebay yesterday. ive been using the same ebay account since sept 99

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:23:03 PM EDT

[#7]

CWO and legonas,

I can’t and won’t say anything derogatory to you two as I kept using Ebay and Paypal knowing full well of their anti-gun policies.

Their decision to not sell brass pushed me over the edge.

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:27:43 PM EDT

[#8]

Closed my paypal a few months back forgot what name i used on the account tho.

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:27:52 PM EDT

[#9]

Closed my accounts when they banned AR parts.

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:30:39 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Closed my accounts when they banned AR parts.

In retrospect, I should've also.

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:31:28 PM EDT

[#11]

I was never successful getting a paypal account working so I cancelled it. Then later when paypal was processing a purchase that was actually just a credit card purchase they wouldn't allow use of my card (which was the one I tried to hook up to paypal.

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:31:45 PM EDT

[#12]

Surprised they haven't added a fee for closing accounts yet.

$1.50 for a check processing fee. I'd put $1.51 in there and have them mail you a check for a cent.

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:32:37 PM EDT

[#13]

How about "I never used the anti-gun assholes in the first place".

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:33:45 PM EDT

[#14]

I was always kinda waiting for the other shoe to drop - figured because Ebay/Paypal were so B I G, that something would screw up eventually.

Never did, though.

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:33:59 PM EDT

[#15]

I actually just started using Ebay. I gave paypal the boot a LONG time ago

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:34:26 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
How about "I never used the anti-gun assholes in the first place".

to you.

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:35:24 PM EDT

[#17]

Dear rippler,

Thank you for writing to eBay regarding the status of your account
closure.

I have reviewed your account and can confirm that it is pending closure.
The account is currently blocked from bidding and listing. You may still
be able to sign-in, but will not be able to use the account to bid or
sell.

Please be assured that your account will be closed, and you will receive
a notification when this happens.

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
Simona P.

eBay Customer Support
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Message: Due to your new anti gun policies I no longer wish to do
business with you.

ETA: I never used Paypal

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:37:02 PM EDT

[#18]

I closed my ebay and paypal accounts along with my Dad and two friends! If they won't support the RKBA we should not support them!

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:37:12 PM EDT

[#19]

I closed ebay today, paypay long time ago. Had been with ebay about eight years. Fuck 'em.

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:39:53 PM EDT

[#20]

----- Original Message -----
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 6:47 pm
Subject: Your Closed Account Status
To: "Backstop"

> Dear "Backstop",
>
> We are sorry that you have decided to close your PayPal account.
> With millions of members in dozens of countries and regions across
> the globe, PayPal is continually improving and expanding its award-
> winning services.
>
> PayPal is the world's leading online money transaction service for
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>
> Should you decide you want to have a PayPal account again in the
> future, visit https://www.paypal.com and follow the few easy steps
> to open a new account.
>
> If you did not authorize your account to be closed, please report
> this email to us at
> https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_contact_us
>
> Sincerely,
>
> The PayPal Team
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> PayPal Email ID PP528
>

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:43:03 PM EDT

[#21]

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:45:04 PM EDT

[#22]

I quit using paypal years ago when they froze my account over nothing; I did some research, found out they were doing it everyone. There was a class action lawsuit and everything.

I've always hated ebay, and when they bought paypal, that just cinched the deal. I haven't used either of them in years.

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:48:38 PM EDT

[#23]

There are too many scammers. When you can't trust a service to provide even the most basic of items without fear of losing your money, it's time to move on.

Posted: 8/1/2007 4:52:30 PM EDT

[#24]

i don't use ebay.

i try my hardest to avoid using paypal but sometimes that's the only option.

Posted: 8/1/2007 5:02:30 PM EDT

[#25]

I got rid of paypal a while back.

Posted: 8/1/2007 5:02:34 PM EDT

[#26]

I hate them both just like everyone here wants me to.

I signed up for "GearPay" who likes guns and stuff but I have yet to come across a vendor who is selling an item I cannot live without that uses GearPay.

So WTF?

WTF is a gun guy (who has wood for an arsenal addition) susposed to do?

I'm real rural and going to the post office for a M.O. is a major 20 mile hassle.

Yeah, I know: "Write a fucking check and drop it in the mail!"

But the Mrs. and I haven't written a check in over eight years. We don't even order checks from our Credit Union anymore.

We need a Reg'larGuyPal.com!

So who wants to start it up and make a fortune off gun guys like me?

ETA: Damn, I finally get to own a page? But what's the thrill? Where's my rush? I don't get a page buzz?

Also ETA: Why don't we firemission ebay?

We start crusin there and every single gun related item, or even remotely gun related, we report and demand they remove the offending item. We report any item that can be used for guns, like WD-40, 3n1 oil, etc. In other words we bombard them with pettiness and drive them crazy.

This will really put a dent in their business and if they don't remove the items it will expose them for the phonies they are.

Posted: 8/1/2007 5:13:46 PM EDT

[#27]

I never bothered to close my accounts.

Posted: 8/1/2007 5:25:45 PM EDT

[#28]

Closed my ebay account last week. I'm on the fence about PayPal because it does come in handy.

Posted: 8/1/2007 5:33:38 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
WTF is a gun guy (who has wood for an arsenal addition) susposed to do?

I dunno.

There are a few things I regularly used Paypal for - I'm gonna have to find another option.

I shop about once a month online at Barnes and Noble, but plastic.

Like I said before, I only bought 19 times on Ebay with Paypal.

Maybe someone else will chime in here with a solution.

Posted: 8/1/2007 9:07:12 PM EDT

[#30]

I hadn't had to use them in nearly 3 years until by coincidence, I had to use it tonight, just in time for this post.

Weird.

Posted: 8/1/2007 9:09:56 PM EDT

[#31]

I've always considered eBay to be the devil, and I haven't ever used it. However, I used to use Paypal for a couple things. After joining ARF, I ditched Paypal.

Posted: 8/1/2007 9:10:17 PM EDT

[#32]

I haven't given them the boot, but I never used either. I always thought Egay and Playpal were the enemy.

Posted: 8/1/2007 9:17:01 PM EDT

[#33]

No more PayPal for me.

Rarely go to eBay anymore, lots of people are pissed at constant format changes, the whole deal is ripe for someone to blow them out of the water.

Posted: 8/1/2007 9:22:19 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:
www.gatorgop.com/humor/difism.jpg

If that was only shoved up her ass sideways would life be better.

Posted: 8/1/2007 9:22:54 PM EDT

[#35]

After that no-gun-related-stuff-what-so-ever policy I have given both of them the boot.

SCREW EBAY, SCREW PAYPAL, and SCREW AROCK! Amen!

Posted: 8/1/2007 9:24:17 PM EDT

[#36]

Also ETA: Why don't we firemission ebay?

We start crusin there and every single gun related item, or even remotely gun related, we report and demand they remove the offending item. We report any item that can be used for guns, like WD-40, 3n1 oil, etc. In other words we bombard them with pettiness and drive them crazy.

This will really put a dent in their business and if they don't remove the items it will expose them for the phonies they are.

And every airsoft POS as well. I think that would pretty much encompass 90% of Egays biz.

Posted: 8/2/2007 2:20:23 PM EDT

[#37]

I think this is good.

We have a total of 71 boots so far.

Posted: 8/2/2007 2:22:05 PM EDT

[#38]

I still have the Paypal account for use on the rare occaision when someone absolutely has to use it. Normally, I send USPS money orders.

Posted: 8/2/2007 2:41:22 PM EDT

[#39]

I stopped using PayPal years ago.

eBay, I still have an account and still buy something once in a blue moon.

Posted: 8/2/2007 3:13:01 PM EDT

[#40]

I'm closing my ebay account if the new rules go into effect. I'm not conducting any business there until I see if they implement the new policy. I was selling a lot of brass on there so I'll have to move that operation to gunbroker.com. It really sucks because I've done a lot of business there and gotten some really good deals. I guess I'll close the paypal account also.

Posted: 8/2/2007 3:48:58 PM EDT

[#41]

I have some bad news for everyone....eBay and paypal could give a fuck if every person on this site dropped them. I'm with you guys about hating the way they are doing things, but I also hate the oil companies, the bankers, politicians, etc.

I'll drop them in the near future, I've got quite a few things i need to get rid of before doing so.

Those bastards are huge, if ebay was a country, it would be the sixth largest nation in the world.

Posted: 8/2/2007 3:56:54 PM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:
I have some bad news for everyone....eBay and paypal could give a fuck if every person on this site dropped them.

HAHA!

That is exactly how I was gonna preface this:

----- Original Message -----
From: eBay Customer Support <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, August 2, 2007 12:01 pm
Subject: Re: GS%S00128 Account Closure Request [#US 30211T ?01 ] (KMM79438148V66734L0KM)
To: [email protected]

> Dear "Backstop",
>
> Thank you for writing eBay in regard to closing your eBay account
> and
> PayPal account.
>
> We're sorry to hear that you've decided to close your eBay
> account. To
> have your request processed as quickly as possible, please go to:
>
> http://pages.ebay.com/help/account/closing-account.html
>
> Follow the directions you'll find there.
>
> With regard to closing your PayPal account. You'll get answers
> faster if
> you contact PayPal Customer Service directly. To reach PayPal
> Customer
> Service, log into your account and send a secure email through the
> following Web page:
>
> https://www.paypal.com/ewf/f=default
>
> It is my pleasure to assist you. Thank you for choosing eBay.
>
> Sincerely,
> Tracy I.
>
> eBay Customer Support
> _____________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> User Feedback: 19
> User State: ?01
>
> Browser Info: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1)
>
> Home > Help Topics > Account Information and Billing > Managing
> Your
> eBay Member Account > Closing Your eBay Account
>
> Message: Close my account.
>
> In consideration of your anti-gun stance - and now your anti-
> reloading
> supplies stance - I will cease all shopping on Ebay, and will
> close that
> account along with my PayPal account.
>
> I will continue to use your site as a resource if I decide to shop
> for
> an item, but I will contact the vendor directly rather than use
> Ebay as
> an intermediary.
>
> Signed,
>
>
> "Backstop"
>
>
>

Posted: 8/2/2007 4:04:11 PM EDT

[#43]

Before you permanently close your account due to concerns about eBay's rules, we'd like to provide you with information about how you may be able to solve the problem you're experiencing.

There are rules that all eBay users, both buyers and sellers, need to know and follow.

These rules are created to protect you and to keep eBay a safe place to buy, sell and participate in the Community.

eBay's rules for buyers and sellers help ensure that transactions at eBay are safe and hassle-free.

Did this solve your problem?

No. Please close my account.

Account Will be Closed

We have started the process to close your account. The process may take up to 180 days. Once your account has been closed, we will send an email to your registered email address.

We value your membership in the eBay Community, and we wish we could convince you to stay. A customer support representative may contact you to see if there's anything we can do to address your concerns.

Ha! Bet that will be a great exchange.

Ebay: Backstop, why are you leaving?

Backstop: Because you won’t sell firearms or reloading supplies.

Ebay: Oh OK. Bye.

Posted: 8/2/2007 4:07:42 PM EDT

[#44]

I have lots of other hobbies/interests that I still use Ebay. And Paypal.

I dont have the time to waste to not support every little company that doesnt support the 2nd amendment. I perhaps should be a bit more vigilant, but I guarantee that you spend money with an anti-gun company somewhere down the line.

There are two places I do not use- monster.com and costco.

Posted: 8/2/2007 4:21:39 PM EDT

[#45]

We have the EE but we need an auction site that uses GearPay as well

www.Egear.com or something

Posted: 8/2/2007 4:22:11 PM EDT

[#46]

I don't like the bastards either but right now they are the only game in town .
Sending them nasty e-mails might make you feel better , but they don't really give a shit what you think . E-bay is so freaking huge that they will never feel the effects of
a boycot by pro gun folks .

Posted: 8/3/2007 1:55:57 PM EDT

[#47]

Damn, these bastards at Ebay just won't go away.

----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, August 2, 2007 7:01 pm
Subject: IC NOTICE: User Account Closed per User Request
To: [email protected]

> Dear backstop73 ([email protected]),
>
> As you requested, we have begun the process to close your account.
>
> We value your membership in the eBay community, and we wish we
> could convince you to stay. A customer support representative may
> contact you to see if there?s anything we can do to address your
> concerns.
>
> Your account is now blocked from bidding or listing on eBay.
> However, you can still access your account information to
> determine your final bill, if applicable.
>
> If you have had recent listing or bidding activity, we require a
> waiting period of 180 days. By allowing 180 days to pass we are
> helping to ensure that all of your transactions have been
> completed. Once the 180 days waiting period is over, we will
> automatically close your account.
>
> At that time you will receive a final account closure notice from
> eBay. Please note that if you have an unpaid balance on your
> account, eBay will continue to use your contact information for
> collection efforts until your balance is fully paid.
>
> Once your account has been permanently closed, your contact
> information, transaction history and feedback profile will be
> concealed and no longer available on the site.
>
> If you do not wish to permanently close your account, please
> contact us immediately.
>
> We hope that you have enjoyed your time with eBay.
> Regards,
> eBay Customer Support

>

Posted: 8/3/2007 2:05:09 PM EDT

[#48]

Maybe Paypal will go away now also.

----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
Date: Friday, August 3, 2007 5:14 am
Subject: PayPal - Account Closure
To: [email protected]

>
> Dear “Backstop“,
>
> According to our records, you recently closed your PayPal account.
> Your business is very important to us and we would like to ask
> you a few questions around the main reasons why you chose to close
> your account. The survey should only take 2-3 minutes.
>
> http://surveys.echosurvey.com/paypal/survey.taf?survey_id=649&user_id=90022177-45F4-41A7-9090-448388960524
>
> To respond to our survey, please click on the web address above.
> If that does not work, please cut and paste the entire web address
> into the address field of your browser.
>
> Thank you.
>
> PayPal Customer Support
>
> ** An important note from the survey vendor **
>
> PayPal, as the party who controls the data collected in this
> survey, may use your responses together with existing data it has
> about you to ensure its products and services meet your needs.
> PayPal will treat data collected from you in accordance with
> PayPal's privacy policy. To review this privacy policy, please
> contact PayPal or visit PayPal's web site.

So I took the survey:

Please indicate which of the following reasons contributed to your decision to close your account. (Check All that Apply)

I do not agree with PayPal’s policies

Which of these reasons was THE ONE MAIN REASON you decided to close your account?

I do not agree with PayPal’s policies

Had you been considering closing your PayPal account for a while or did you just decide to on this day because of the reasons selected above?

Had been considering for a while

When you closed your account, did you …

Do it yourself online

Was this your one and only PayPal account, or do you still have a PayPal account that you will continue to use?

This was my only account and it is now closed

If PayPal would have done any of the following, would you have considered keeping your account open? Check all that would have made a difference in your decision to close your account.

Changed your policies

Lastly, which of the following categories best describes how you primarily used PayPal?

eBay buyer

The survey is complete.
Thank you for your time.

Yeah...fuck you very little.