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Posted: 9/20/2001 1:14:53 PM EDT
What do you think it is?  

I have to go with the 1911.  It served its country well for a very long time.
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 1:18:01 PM EDT
[#1]
M1911A1, CAL45
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 1:28:00 PM EDT
[#2]
Amen

Kyle
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 1:28:58 PM EDT
[#3]
Another vote for the M1911A1, the only one with a custom designed man-killing round. It was in constant service with American forces from Belleau Wood to Beirut, and now seeing a comeback in the MEU(SOC) pistol.

[b]Freedom isn't free[/b]
Semper Fidelis
Jarhead out.
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Link Posted: 9/20/2001 1:32:28 PM EDT
[#4]
1911
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 1:33:46 PM EDT
[#5]
Jennings 22???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 1:38:45 PM EDT
[#6]
M1911A1
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 1:39:02 PM EDT
[#7]
Lorcin kicks Jennings ASS.
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 1:42:38 PM EDT
[#8]
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Lorcin kicks Jennings ASS.
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Yea, because when both our POS guns jam we can use them as bricks, and yours is heavier.[smoke]
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 1:43:03 PM EDT
[#9]
1911.
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 1:46:29 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
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Lorcin kicks Jennings ASS.
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Yea, because when both our POS guns jam we can use them as bricks, and yours is heavier.[smoke]
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I once had a nightmare that I bought a POS gun.
aghhhh!!!!!!!![shock]
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 1:48:15 PM EDT
[#11]
I've always liked the Browning Hi-Power. I like the 1911, but my Sig 220 is a vastly superior .45.
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 1:51:01 PM EDT
[#12]
Of all time, it'd have to be the 1911 just because of it's long service life.

God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 1:52:49 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
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Lorcin kicks Jennings ASS.
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Yea, because when both our POS guns jam we can use them as bricks, and yours is heavier.[smoke]
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I once had a nightmare that I bought a POS gun.
aghhhh!!!!!!!![shock]
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You opened up your gun safe and somehow, overnite, all your fine handguns morphed into LORCINS!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 2:00:35 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
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Lorcin kicks Jennings ASS.
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Yea, because when both our POS guns jam we can use them as bricks, and yours is heavier.[smoke]
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I once had a nightmare that I bought a POS gun.
aghhhh!!!!!!!![shock]
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You opened up your gun safe and somehow, overnite, all your fine handguns morphed into LORCINS!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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I was so depressed I couldn't even kill myself!! click, click, click. POS handguns!!!!!![grenade]
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 4:58:12 PM EDT
[#15]
OK breaks over.

I'm still saying the M1911A1 is the best

(except for Lorcin and Jennings of course)
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 5:00:32 PM EDT
[#16]
Glock, goes bang *every* single time. (Though I love my 1911's!)

You want Combat you get glock.
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 5:10:01 PM EDT
[#17]
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 5:10:54 PM EDT
[#18]
Love 1911"s, but it's GLOCK all the way!!!


[soapbox]
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 5:15:39 PM EDT
[#19]
Sig 220  [pistol][whacko]
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 5:21:45 PM EDT
[#20]
Three weeks ago I would have said "I've got 3 1911's and they are real weapons but when it comes to whipping it out and blastin' nothing beats a Glock" Then the Locking Block on my Glock 27 broke. [>(] God I was bummed. [>Q]

Now I have to say "When it comes down to a real weapon that will work under all conditions it's a 1911".

[:|]
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 5:24:07 PM EDT
[#21]
1911,

What other gun its age is still a viable defensive and law enforcement weapon today?

Can anyone honestly say that they are LESS well equipped with a 1911 than with a Glock? You may LIKE the Glock or Sig better. But can you honestly say a 1911 wouldnt work just as well?

Now I know that there are older revolvers still in production, but except as a hideout gun they are not much use. Using a revolver in a gunfight CAN get you killed by its nature, that is the length of time it takes to reload compared to a automatic pistol, even with a speed loader.
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 5:42:03 PM EDT
[#22]
OK pdg45acp, I'll bite.  What is a Glock "locking block?"  I know there's "locking piece" on Beretta autos, but I don't know what this is in a Glock.

BTW I haven't managed to break a Glock yet in spite of years of trying.  In 1911s I had a front sight fly off and broke a slide stop.  I still love 1911s though, there's just something righteous about them.  They are a "fine handgun," the Glock is more like a "shooting machine."
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 5:47:46 PM EDT
[#23]
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 5:55:42 PM EDT
[#24]
hmm greatest combat handgun

i say the one that saves your ass!

Link Posted: 9/20/2001 5:58:54 PM EDT
[#25]
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OK pdg45acp, I'll bite.  What is a Glock "locking block?"  I know there's "locking piece" on Beretta autos, but I don't know what this is in a Glock.

BTW I haven't managed to break a Glock yet in spite of years of trying.  In 1911s I had a front sight fly off and broke a slide stop.  I still love 1911s though, there's just something righteous about them.  They are a "fine handgun," the Glock is more like a "shooting machine."
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When they were NEW 45's built by Colt, Remington Rand, and the National Armories NEVER shed pieces. They won their contract because of this, the Colt and Smith DA revolvrs- not to mention the Luger's and Mausers- did shed pieces.

You either got a very old and well used .45 or a cheep clone by a fly by night company- which sadly incldes Colt anymore.
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 6:00:31 PM EDT
[#26]
[size=5]1911[/size=5]
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 6:01:29 PM EDT
[#27]
M1911.  I have a Glock 30 (.45 ACP) which I really like, but my Combat Commander is the one I keep with me at all times.  It's slimmer, comfortable, and just an all-round great firearm.  Wouldn't part with it for the world.
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 6:12:07 PM EDT
[#28]
I have to say the 1911A1, but the L9 (British designatio for the Browning Hi-Power) gets a very close second.  I personally prefer the L9, but I still still bow to the 1911 in .45 ACP.

You can cheer all you want about a Glock, Sig, Beretta, H&K, or whatever you prefer, but I say that they will never have the history or go through the combat trials that the 1911 and L9 did (and still do).  Someone correct me if I am wrong, but isnt the Hi-Power still the most widely used military sidearm in the world?

On the other hand, the 1911 and L9 do not make as good of a police sidearm because they are single action.  Some people say that the DA is a must have for police.  I am undecided actually.  I can keep with all my friends and their DA autos (with my Hi-Power) in a quick draw contest (against targets, of course).

'nuff ramblin for now...

JRB  
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 7:42:34 PM EDT
[#29]
I have to agree with JRB L1A1 in agreeing that John Browning's creations set the standards for combat pistols as far as I'm concerned.  I'd say that the 1911 design is tops, with the Hi-Power running a close second.  
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 8:02:49 PM EDT
[#30]
They all fall to the Hard-ball... M1911 all the way. My Glock has served me well, but it does not have the class nor the style of the Gov't Model.[50]-yet another quality Browning invention...
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 8:15:39 PM EDT
[#31]
Well Armed Liberal, it was a COLT after all.  Specifically a 1991 that I bought brand new in the box.  Aforementioned stuff started breaking around the 4K round mark.

Maybe it was a "new" Colt and not a "classic" Colt and that's my problem . . .

I have never broken a NORINCO 1911 I'll admit, although I have never put that many miles on one either.
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 8:33:40 PM EDT
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Well Armed Liberal, it was a COLT after all.  Specifically a 1991 that I bought brand new in the box.  Aforementioned stuff started breaking around the 4K round mark.

Maybe it was a "new" Colt and not a "classic" Colt and that's my problem . . .

I have never broken a NORINCO 1911 I'll admit, although I have never put that many miles on one either.
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This is why that a ex-Argentine Federal Police Colt 1927- the ones that were made by Colt and shipped down, not the Sistemas that were built in Argentina- are selling for the same price here in Phoenix ($450 bucks) as a new M1991 Colt and a hundred dollars more than a Charles Dailey (or a Ruger, or a Sigma). And have you seen the blue book for a VG WWI production M1911? $600 bucks, and up depending on how low the serial numbers are and if it was "modernized" into a A1.  And this isnt cause of collector value, its because these guns are still "shooting machines" that you can COUNT on to protect your life, and even if worn out can still easily be restored by the shooter himslef with over the counter parts.

WIll Glocks be doing this in 2083 when they turn 100, sure, and 200 year old Colts will be right alongside.
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 8:37:07 PM EDT
[#33]
I have my favorite. A Remington Rand M1911A1. It speaks to me, it tells me war stories. It's been to Guadalcanal, Pelilu, Omaha Beach and The Hurtgen forest. It was at the Inchon, Old Baldy, The Punch Bowl and Heart Break Ridge. Then there was The Ashau Valley, Leatherneck Square and Hue . It rounded out it's service in Beruit and lastly on Grenada. No other pistol can match it's war record. All debate rings hollow. The M1911/M1911A1's are the greatest combat handguns, ever.
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 8:41:10 PM EDT
[#34]
For me is 1911 in .45  I have never seen a 1911 frame do what glocks can do.....

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Glock, goes bang *every* single time. (Though I love my 1911's!)


You want Combat you get glock.
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Yes, they do go Bang, bang, that is why I don't dial 911, I dial 1911
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 8:45:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/20/2001 8:46:10 PM EDT
[#36]
How come everyone and his brother has blown up a Glock except for me?  Somehow I feel left out . . .  Better start double-charging those cases!
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 9:08:06 PM EDT
[#37]
    The Glock 9mm is probably the most reliable pistol ever manufactured.  The larger caliber Glocks are reliable, but just don't have the longevity of the "nines".  Plus, it's one of the few pistols that can chew an endless supply of the superhot 9mm subgun ammo, and can be fired underwater with the maritime springcups installed (It is becoming a popular shark gun with scuba divers[0j]).  Those stories you hear of Glock 17's and 19's going several hundred thousand rounds aren't fiction!


                        - Dave
Link Posted: 9/20/2001 10:17:48 PM EDT
[#38]
Something in .25 acp, now thats a real man stopping round.


Six
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 12:11:33 AM EDT
[#39]
Captain Kirk or Spocks Phaser!

I also like my Glock 23.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 1:08:50 AM EDT
[#40]
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Of all time, it'd have to be the 1911 just because of it's long service life.
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I agree 100%!

I prefre my SIGs or HKs though [;)].

Tyler
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 2:27:46 AM EDT
[#41]
[b]Detonics Combat Master[/b], yes it's a 1911, but in side by side speed contests the combat master will fire 7rnds. before a stock 45acp will shoot 4. Though no longer made they didn't call them "Combat Master" for nothing.

Mike
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 3:52:21 AM EDT
[#42]
A FN-Browning GP, closely followed by the 1911.
Yet I prefer my SIG P226 best.
[}:D]
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 4:34:48 AM EDT
[#43]
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 5:23:49 AM EDT
[#44]
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 5:25:23 AM EDT
[#45]
[img]http://www.netsnapshot.com/users/1340/images/O4Uh9MCoBQIAAFc3AlM_1340_23.jpeg[/img]
[b]I[/b] guess I haven't blown up any Glocks either - still waiting for the inevitable...  Oh, that and I'll never step foot on an airplane again...  or drive a Ford Explorer and use Tylenol...

Regards,

Dolomite
(Pimp gun owner, operator, and enthusiast)
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 6:28:28 AM EDT
[#46]
Glock
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 6:30:49 AM EDT
[#47]
1911, of course.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 6:33:17 AM EDT
[#48]
You people are insane.....THE LIBERATOR!
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:00:18 AM EDT
[#49]
Out of the box, I have to vote for a Glock.
If you want something that has the history, and you pay more for it, then you have to send it to a gunsmith to make it 100% reliable, get yourself a 1911.
Of course, the one you have with you when you need it is the best!
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:39:46 AM EDT
[#50]
M1911A1
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