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Posted: 9/8/2001 6:33:48 PM EDT
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bite the bullet and thread the barrel...anything else is gonna be hoeky...
Check with Ed @ Gunsmoke or we can do it.... |
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Posted: 9/8/2001 6:37:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: bite the bullet and thread the barrel...anything else is gonna be hoeky... Check with Ed @ Gunsmoke or we can do it.... Yeah, that would be nice and ILLEGAL. If you're going to do that, might as well thread the barrel, pay 200 bucks, and shorten down to SBR size. At least that way it will LOOK legal with papers. Or you could be like me and...just not care. |
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Posted: 9/8/2001 6:49:33 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: bite the bullet and thread the barrel...anything else is gonna be hoeky... Check with Ed @ Gunsmoke or we can do it.... Yeah, that would be nice and ILLEGAL. If you're going to do that, might as well thread the barrel, pay 200 bucks, and shorten down to SBR size. At least that way it will LOOK legal with papers. Or you could be like me and...just not care. Not true. GO was refering to a permenantly pinned brake on a threaded barrel, perfectly legal. |
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Posted: 9/8/2001 6:55:05 PM EDT
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If you did have the barrel threaded on a post ban you would obviously have to make it PERMANENTLY attached. Have it welded or silver soldered on. Making sure whatever method you choose is legal.
To help in your question, all I can offer with personal experience it the Bushmaster mini Y-comp. It is very effective on a light weight carbine for reducing recoil and muzzle climb but is VERY loud!! Personally I would not put a break on an HBAR, I just don't think the money and tradeoff is worth it. |
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Posted: 9/8/2001 6:59:49 PM EDT
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Just making sure it was permanent, and not a loose-threaded design. Go ahead and thread the barrel then.
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Posted: 9/8/2001 7:04:44 PM EDT
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Almost forgot, I'd recommend the Cavalry Arms Cav Comp or the Wilson Combat Tac Brake. I've tried most of what's on the market at one time or another and these are the brands I currently own. Neither is anywhere near as loud as a Y Comp, they look great too!
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Posted: 9/8/2001 7:04:54 PM EDT
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I would put a BRAKE on it. A break will affect your accuracy and possibly spew hot gas on the guy standing next to you.
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Posted: 9/8/2001 7:07:54 PM EDT
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Quoted: Just making sure it was permanent, and not a loose-threaded design. Go ahead and thread the barrel then. Right, it has to be permanent. No simple screw off muzzle brakes on a postban! Man this law makes us safer...[:(] |
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Posted: 9/8/2001 7:11:50 PM EDT
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Not that I have one or personally used one; I've been recommended the AK74 break. From what I've read it works well with recoil. Bushmaster posts
Reduces Felt Recoil 70% - Reduces Muzzle Climb 90% Lethal[heavy] |
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Posted: 9/8/2001 7:17:16 PM EDT
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i have the wilson combat on a bushmaster carbine hbar. some have said it is louder and depending what i shoot thru it, i get old dragon breath, not good to shoot at night. wilson will send b.a.t.f. offical letter.
my 2 cents |
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Posted: 9/8/2001 7:26:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: Not that I have one or personally used one; I've been recommended the AK74 break. From what I've read it works well with recoil. Bushmaster posts Reduces Felt Recoil 70% - Reduces Muzzle Climb 90% AK brake is OK but seems louder to my ear than the Cav Comp or Wilson, works about the same as far as muzzle stabilization goes. More muzzle flash. Just my opinion. |
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Posted: 9/8/2001 7:26:24 PM EDT
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What is everyones $.02 on the stock Armalite brake? People at the range say its LOUD-O-RAMA! but with plugs AND muffs, all I get is headache.
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Posted: 9/8/2001 7:39:22 PM EDT
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Red,
If you are asking us to "assume" about the type of weapon, you may assume I have the same sort. I went through the same game. Pros and cons. The pro list was: It would look cool. The con list: It would have to be sent in to do it, the expense, no performance enhancement, no one would shoot next to me at the range...etc.. I go W/O. Good Luck. |
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Posted: 9/8/2001 7:48:09 PM EDT
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Quoted: Red, The con list: It would have to be sent in to do it, the expense, no performance enhancement, no one would shoot next to me at the range...etc.. I go W/O. Good Luck. No offence, but a good brake is a definite performance enhancement, especially when shooting fast with optics. They are very necessary on light AR's such as the M4. |
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Posted: 9/8/2001 7:56:58 PM EDT
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Ipsc,
None taken. I imagined myself on the firing line with iron sights and withtout instant follow ups or double taps needed. Good Luck. |
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Posted: 9/8/2001 8:00:51 PM EDT
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Quoted: Please tell me, IYHO, who makes the best post ban type muzzle break? Also, what are the different methods of attaching a muzzle break if the barrel is not threaded? Red - You have a muzzle break? How did it get broken? And who broke it? Shouldn't you think about getting it fixed before you shoot it? Sheesh..... |
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Posted: 9/8/2001 8:18:04 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Please tell me, IYHO, who makes the best post ban type muzzle break? Also, what are the different methods of attaching a muzzle break if the barrel is not threaded? Red - You have a muzzle break? How did it get broken? And who broke it? Shouldn't you think about getting it fixed before you shoot it? Sheesh..... HA! I love it! A mind is a terrible thing! |
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Posted: 9/8/2001 8:28:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: HA! I love it! A mind is a terrible thing! You know, tc6969 - I think we're the only two people on this board who know the difference. Everyone else is sitting there saying "what are those guys talking about?" BTW - the mechanic says my car needs a break job. How much should I pay for it? [:P] |
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Posted: 9/8/2001 9:07:22 PM EDT
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Steel Rat,
I am sure we are all humbled in your presence. Please enlighten us to your wisdom. Good Luck |
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Posted: 9/8/2001 9:15:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: HA! I love it! A mind is a terrible thing! You know, tc6969 - I think we're the only two people on this board who know the difference. Everyone else is sitting there saying "what are those guys talking about?" BTW - the mechanic says my car needs a break job. How much should I pay for it? [:P] Yeah we are on the same page! Have some whiskey! Me and Varmithunter are doing it up right! I think you need some dolars for that break job! Check this out! [URL]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=50119[/URL] |
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Posted: 9/8/2001 9:17:28 PM EDT
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Quoted: Steel Rat, I am sure we are all humbled in your presence. Please enlighten us to your wisdom. Good Luck Shut up and drink! Its whiskey knight! How did I do BEE? |
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Posted: 9/8/2001 9:51:10 PM EDT
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Jewbroni--
There was a discussion several months back about this on HKPro.com. Even if you make a post ban rifle a registered SBR, you cannot thread the muzzle. The ATF considers it making a new (i.e. post-ban) assault weapon if you add that additional feature. Some people wanted to SBR their HK USC so they could put folders on them, and they were told it was illegal. AFARR |
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Posted: 9/8/2001 10:03:52 PM EDT
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Quoted: Jewbroni-- There was a discussion several months back about this on HKPro.com. Even if you make a post ban rifle a registered SBR, you cannot thread the muzzle. The ATF considers it making a new (i.e. post-ban) assault weapon if you add that additional feature. Some people wanted to SBR their HK USC so they could put folders on them, and they were told it was illegal. AFARR The way it was described to me at a gun show was they threaded the barrel, properly lined up the brake (break?)Then pinned it,welded the hole, then reparkered it. The sample I saw was BEAUTIFUL! and solid as a rock due to the threading! |
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Posted: 9/9/2001 4:06:24 PM EDT
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TC--
That is correct for a muzzle brake. If you leave it threaded and do not permanantly pin on the brake, it is illegal. You cannot thread and attach a flash hider to a post ban gun that does not have it already (i.e. an M1A does because it doesn't have a pistol grip). AFARR |
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