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Posted: 5/22/2006 9:53:37 AM EDT
I saw this over at LF and thought I would share.
"Ranger" Video Interview Print Interview But I thought You said you were in Fallujah? On Military.Com he claims to have earned the following: CIB 2nd award CAB 2nd award Basic Parachutist w/3 combat jumps Special Forces Tab Ranger Tab Pistol Marksman Bronze Star Medal Purple Heart Medal Good Conduct Medal National Defense Service Medal Army Service Ribbon Overseas Service Ribbon. Claims 2 tours in Iraq and to have joined the 3rd Bat in 2001. Lemme see here, he is 20 now, its 2006, 2001 was 5 years ago...hmmmn, joined when he was 15. But what if he joined December 31st 2001 and he is almost 21 now, damn, only makes him 16 when he joined. I would love to have 5 minutes alone with this POS poser. Not only is he claiming awards and status he did not earn, but he is alo dishonoring the men who did and dragging their reputations through the mud for his 15 seconds of fame. |
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For real! Punks like that really piss me off. |
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The War the Media is Not Reporting — An Iraqi Veteran Speaks Out Printer-Friendly
E-Mail This Apr 26, 2006 By Justice Jesse Macbeth, formerly a Special Forces Ranger in Iraq, is now active with Iraq Veterans Against the War in Tacoma, Washington. The Rangers are elite units sent door-to-door in Iraq to combat the insurgency. They were also sent into Fallujah to crush all opposition to the occupation of that city. Justice recently interviewed Jesse. How did you end up in the military? I grew up on the streets. I got into trouble for fighting. The same judge that I'd been dealing with my whole life told me that I wouldn't have to do adult time if I signed up for the military immediately. Sometimes I kinda wish I went to jail instead. How did you become a Special Forces Ranger? Basic training was easy for me. Growing up on the streets, I was used to running from cops. I was used to not eating for days. I got picked to go to Ranger School. What did your division do? I was in the Third Ranger Battalion. Our job was to strike fear in the hearts of the Iraqi people. We would go into people's houses and plow down entire families. We would interrogate people. If we didn't like the answers that they gave, then we would kill the youngest child. If they gave more answers that we didn't like, then we'd move on to the rest of the family. They could've been innocent people. We would leave the bodies in the streets and blame it on the Shi'ites or the Sunnis. [In Fallujah] we were ordered to go into mosques and slaughter people while they were praying. I won't go into full detail because I'm still haunted by the memories. What was the assault on Fallujah like? Fallujah is where we slaughtered people in mosques. We provoked the people there. Some people escaped from the mosques and saw us. We would dig holes and leave mass graves of children, women, and old men. We were ordered to let people die on the street. We were told that the Geneva Convention means nothing to us in combat. We were ordered to fire on peaceful protesters in Fallujah. Somebody threw a rock at us, and an officer said that he thought it was a grenade. Then we were ordered to fire. When it's daylight in Iraq, it's daylight! Nobody really thought it was a grenade. What medals did you get in Iraq? I got a lot. I got a purple heart. Half of them, I don't remember. I got five or six medals just for landing. I got a bronze star. What injuries did you get? I got stabbed many times. I got shrapnel in my knee. I got shot in the back. What do you think is the role of the U.S. in Iraq? The military is terrorists there. Soldiers thought we were going to fight terrorism, but we became the terrorists. We were told we were going to liberate the country and find weapons of mass destruction. The real aim is to have the U.S. own the country. The U.S. wants oil. How has the government treated you since you got back? Like shit. I hate them. I'm not gonna be a terrorist or anything, but I hate them. They killed my battle brothers. They used me. They messed me up. They didn't care about me. They turned me into a beast, a machine. What Veteran's benefits have you gotten? I ain't getting nothing. A card and that's it. Where do you work? I'm an Iraq vet, and I work at Wendy's. How did you get involved in IVAW? Veteran's Affairs told me they had no money for me. I always knew the war was fucked up, but that motivated me to say something about it. The government throws us away. They did the same thing after Vietnam. Why do you think people should get involved in the antiwar movement? Because it's gotta stop. Innocent people are getting killed. Bush says we have to stay the course and that it's hard work. Bush doesn't know what work is. Anything else you want to say? Yeah. The news here is controlled. The military lets information out that serves their purposes. We slaughtered a sovereign nation. Reporters got killed. When I was growing up, everyone thought I'd be a criminal, but they were wrong. I'm gonna be one of the leaders of the revolution. Socialist Alternative, P.O. Box 45343, Seattle WA 98145 Phone: (206)526-7185 Comments? Suggestions for improving our web page? Please email [email protected] |
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Within the first 30 seconds of that video it's already obvious he's a poser. Just look at the photo they show.
Too bad there are people that will fall for it. |
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From the same source:
Why I Became a Socialist By Katie Quarles - Minneapolis, MN, Nursing Student Apr 26, 2006 As an LGBT person, I was politicized in high school by the constant presence of homophobia. At first, I was attracted to anyone who opposed the reactionaries and Republicans on this issue and other social issues as well. However, I quickly realized that the discrimination against LGBT people had the same root cause as racism, sexism, and oppression in general. Socialism Around the World By Margaret Collins Apr 26, 2006 In recent elections, the United Socialist Party (USP, CWI Sri Lanka) won its first elected position in the country, a city councilor in Eheliyagoda. They also massively improved their vote in many regions. Last fall USP presidential candidate Siritunga Jayasuriya finished third of 13 candidates. Much of the USP’s support comes from the courageous work they did to help the victims of the tsunami May Day Returns to the United States By Philip Locker May 8, 2006 On May 1 millions of immigrant workers took to the streets for immigrant rights in the largest protest and boycott in the United States in decades. Socialist Alternative initiates major protests on May 1 in Tacoma By Tony Wilsdon May 5, 2006 In Tacoma there has been no serious social and political struggles have been waged in many decades. Organizations tend to send supporters up to nearby Seattle to their events, rather than actually organize a protest in Tacoma. |
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That's what I thought. Aren't the Marines the only ones allowed to roll their sleeves like that? |
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So, in April of 2004 he was only 20 years old...hmmm, something doesn't add up here... |
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Reminds me of the losers who pretend to have served in Vietnam but didn't. I have seen a real Vietnam vet pull a poser's punk card and send him away with his tail between his legs.
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3 Combat jumps?? I thought the last combat jump was Greneda.. and before that.. WWII?
There were no combat jumps in Vietnam, Panama, and Iraq. Korea I am not sure. Either he is very old or some one please enlighten me. |
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And his name tapes were on the wrong sides, and his beret was flopped to the wrong side, and probably a hundred other things. |
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I emailed them:
Dear Sirs, Your interview with Jesse Macbeth was forwarded to me. After reading it I felt you might want to know that you have been had. Here is why: 1. He is described as a "Special Forces Ranger". There is no such thing. You are either SF, in which case you have an MOS of 18B, C, D, or E, or you are a Ranger, in which case you are most likely 11B or 11C, although there are a host of other MOSs to be found within the 75th Inf. I was assigned to the 1st Bn, 75th Inf at Hunter Army Airfield form 1986-1988. We had a few prior SF tabbed guys there, but they were Rangers, because they were assigned to a Ranger Bn. 2. Fallujah was and still is USMC territory. The Rangers didn't do much there to my knowledge. 3. Nobody gets picked to go to Ranger school from basic training. You do basic, then AIT, then jump school, then Ranger Indoctrination Program, then you go to battalion or regiment as your assignement. After enduring months of BS, you may get chosen to go to Ranger school. 4. The bolded portion is absolute fantasy. I was in Iraq in 2004 as a security contractor. Our ROE was so restrictive that I couldn't fire unless fired upon. This was a real sphincter tightener when 10 guys with AKs would come into my AO. "We would go into people's houses and plow down entire families. We would interrogate people. If we didn't like the answers that they gave, then we would kill the youngest child. If they gave more answers that we didn't like, then we'd move on to the rest of the family. They could've been innocent people. " 5. A Bronze Star is nigh impossible to get. I looked up his name on the list of awardees. He is not listed as a recipient. I never met a troop who couldn't remember all his awards. Nobody has very many. "What medals did you get in Iraq? I got a lot. I got a purple heart. Half of them, I don't remember. I got five or six medals just for landing. I got a bronze star. " 6. Stabbed? By who? Nobody ever gets that close. If you are in a crowd, every guy in your team is watching every other guy's back. Stabbed many times? That would be a ticket out after number 2. A two time recipient of the Purple Heart is automatically allowed a non-combat job. What injuries did you get? I got stabbed many times. I got shrapnel in my knee. I got shot in the back. 7. Ask this guy to produce his DD214. I bet he doesn't have one. Feel free to contact me-902-103-8675 Bob Dobb |
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Nope. See my post above. As of April 2004 he was only 20, per the article. |
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A portrait is shown hanging on the wall at the beginning of the video.
If I am not mistaken the crest is above the wrong eye. |
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Yes, there were combat jumps in Vietnam (173rd, multiple SF), Panama (82nd, Rgr Bns, SF) and SF jumped in GW1. There were 3 combat jumps in Korea. There were two combat jumps in Afghanistan (82nd and Rgr Bn) and one in Northern Iraq (173rd). |
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Full
Of Shit And then some. I'll call my buddy in the 3rd Battalion, and ask him if he knows who this is. I'm sure if they learn there is a poser running around they'd be more than happy to find him and wring out the truth. True, real-deal Ranger style. |
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That's not important in this thread apparently |
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thanks for the clarifcation. so it is quite possible for him to have 3 combat jumps then, 2 in afganistan and 1 in n. iraq. |
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5 minutes? I don't think I could make the beating I'd give him last 5 minutes. As a soldier, for what he's doing, I'd probably beat him to death in 2 minutes. |
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No, this guy is a poser. Besides, all the recent jumps were made by different units. |
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Yeah, but this guy is so HSLD that he got transferred to each of the units prior to the jump. They NEEDED his mad skillz. |
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W-W-W-W-W-W T F, Over?
Someone local to this idiot needs throw him a blanket party. Ranger my azz. More leftist diarreha. |
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It shouldn't be too hard to verify if a Jesse Macbeth was assigned to the 3rd Ranger Bat within the last 3 years.
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My old man jumped with the Herd in Vietnam. What a POS this guy is. I can't believe people buy this crap............... |
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Kudos for the effort, but I doubt they'll care. Fuggin socialists. |
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Now I'm certainly not a Ranger, but something tells me that having someone who is a studdering fool in your unit could get to be a pretty big liability. Clue #19435 that he is NOT a Ranger.
"Wwwwwwww-wwww--wwwwweeee nnnnnnnn-nnnneee-eeee-eee--ddd an aaaaaaa-aaaaa-ir stttt-ttt-ttt-ttttrike!" "Dddddd-ddddd--ddddduck!!! Iiiiiii-iiiiii-nnnnnnn---nnnncoming!!!" |
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I know. |
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I think the outrageousness of the alleged war crimes he describes will be his undoing. He was under orders to shoot little kids if their dads didn't talk? C'mon, give me a fuckin' break.
If this gets as far as a full blown military investigation, they will get to the bottom of this story and expose this moron for the poser he is, that is if somebody else doesn't get to him first. |
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killing off the youngest kid....yup. i sure as fuck don't recall anyhting like that, and i know that the Army wouldn't pull crap like that either.
i like this one the bestest- What did your division do? I was in the Third Ranger Battalion. Our job was to strike fear in the hearts of the Iraqi people. that gave him away right there. and i've never met anybody who couldn't recall every medal and award they've ever gotten. said thing is, 95% of the kids who see that video will take it as truth. someone look this fucker up and let us know what you find. |
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Isn't this guy committing crimes by claiming to be a bronze star awardee, etc etc?
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Yes, he is in violation of Washington state and Federal laws with his claims. I have contacted the Attorney General for the state, FBI is next. He speaks nationally on the anti-war tour, and enjoys personal gain from his lies.
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I’ve got an idea about how the military should deal with people like this.
Send some MPs to grab him sometime for being a deserter. They should just claim that they know he’s in the military because he says so, but that they can’t find any record of him ever being discharged. So, obviously he’s still in the military. His only defense would be to admit he was lying in an effort to defame the military, which is probably some kind of crime, or it should be. |
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I agree, Please post if they answer you.... BUT don't hold your breath..... |
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"This can all be cleared up by showing us the appropriate paperwork." Nab him while he's speaking on the antiwar tour, and it's being televised. Maybe Natalie Maines can get caught in the crossfire. |
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Stuttering is a Medical No-Go if you want to become a Paratrooper |
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You have to pitch the message to the audience:
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Pay attention children, you are learning at the feet of The Master. |
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20. But he's a child protege. |
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