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Posted: 8/12/2001 11:38:54 PM EDT
Recently I really got to know my neighbors, and this place KICKS ASS!  The guy across from me answers the door with a pistol behind his back and wants an AR (he's Jewish, and his family is pro-gun also), and the one upstairs has a nice AK among other goodies.  It would be a very BAD idea to break in or attack someone around here.  Both are nice guys and really broke some of my misconceptions and stereotypes.  There should be more praise for the residents of CA that resist the idiotic restrictions placed on them.  We are the ones standing up, not running away.  

/rant/
The Right to Keep and Bear Arms will not be maintained by those that flee whenever conflict rears its head.  To those that leave CA because of the laws: what would you do if it actually came time to use your arms in defense of liberty?  You have already made your decision to run from conflict, and have hardened your character as a coward.
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radioman
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 1:18:10 AM EDT
[#1]
Where do ya live in old Cali? I currently live in the 13th safest city w/ more than 100,000 people in the US of A. The neigboring city currently holds the position for 2nd. Not bad for So Cal, if I say so myself. Most of the nice places, though, are in Northern California or in the mountain communities.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 1:19:50 AM EDT
[#2]
San Marcos, near Escondido. I'm going to school at USD.

radioman
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 1:23:38 AM EDT
[#3]
Ah, cool. I'm a while north of that, in the city of Lake Forest in Orange County.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 1:27:00 AM EDT
[#4]
Ahh, O Co., nice place.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 3:17:13 AM EDT
[#5]
My neighbor sleeps all of the time.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 4:21:59 AM EDT
[#6]
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Ah, cool. I'm a while north of that, in the city of Lake Forest in Orange County.
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Hey I use to live there. Trabuco and Peachwood. Just up the street from Capt. Creams. I miss that El Pollo loco of Bake and Trabuco and the In & Out off Alton and Foothill ranch. I miss the beach.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 4:33:46 AM EDT
[#7]
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Hey I use to live there. Trabuco and Peachwood. Just up the street from Capt. Creams. I miss that El Pollo loco of Bake and Trabuco and the In & Out off Alton and Foothill ranch. I miss the beach.
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Mmmmmmmmmm....Double Double Animal Style. Now that's good eatin'
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 5:00:10 AM EDT
[#8]
I have to say this quote I remember from this forum:

[b]"Nazi's and Communists alike disarmed their subjects, unarmed dissenters died in mass graves, armed resisters perished one by one, TAKE SOME WITH YOU!"[/b]
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 7:29:26 AM EDT
[#9]
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Ah, cool. I'm a while north of that, in the city of Lake Forest in Orange County.
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Hey I use to live there. Trabuco and Peachwood. Just up the street from Capt. Creams. I miss that El Pollo loco of Bake and Trabuco and the In & Out off Alton and Foothill ranch. I miss the beach.
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....[size=6]You miss the beach babes too i'd gather[/size=6] [;)]
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 8:19:06 AM EDT
[#10]
I live in Laguna Niguel and I'm pretty amazed at some of the hardware that some of my neighbors have.
An older guy two houses up has a very nice collection of single action Colt .45's Peacemakers and he has a large collection of the German Luger. I was very impressed with his collection and then I jokingly asked what he used for home defense. He told me to stay in the viewing room and went to get what I thought were some more drinks. He returned with an HK MP5 submachine gun, an HK handgun which fired the .45acp, and a shotgun. He also told me that there were various other HK's hidden around the house. Definitely do not want to mess with this guy.
There are a bunch of others who own guns but none of them have the collection or knowledge that this guy did.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 8:46:45 AM EDT
[#11]
Hey I live in poway and go to school at palomar.

jason
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 9:24:24 AM EDT
[#12]
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I live in Laguna Niguel and I'm pretty amazed at some of the hardware that some of my neighbors have.
An older guy two houses up has a very nice collection of single action Colt .45's Peacemakers and he has a large collection of the German Luger. I was very impressed with his collection and then I jokingly asked what he used for home defense. He told me to stay in the viewing room and went to get what I thought were some more drinks. He returned with an HK MP5 submachine gun, an HK handgun which fired the .45acp, and a shotgun. He also told me that there were various other HK's hidden around the house. Definitely do not want to mess with this guy.
There are a bunch of others who own guns but none of them have the collection or knowledge that this guy did.
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I would like an MP5.  Oh and by the way I live in Hell (LA county), but there's many (but not enough) RKBAs living here.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 2:45:36 PM EDT
[#13]
Mmmmmmmmmm....Double Double Animal Style. Now that's good eatin'
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A 4x4 Animal style.  Now that's REALLY good eatin'.

Diamond Bar, formerly Brea, checking in.  I agree radioman.  They'll have to kill me to take me out of this state.  Why should we let these morons takeover an otherwise nice place to live?
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 3:01:19 PM EDT
[#14]
I am the neibor that makes everyone sleep good ;P

What are all you guys doing in the butthole of the state?
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:24:10 PM EDT
[#15]
i got a family friend in san marcos, hunter and gun owner, a great guy.
hes got the yotes coming into his backyard trying to lure his dog away, he wants to take them OUT, without alerting the neighbors.

and there a LOT more pro-2ndAmend people in LA county than you know about, its just not safe to talk about for fear of being robbed (ive NEVER talked about my gun views to my coworkers in the past 3 jobs ive had)
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:36:30 PM EDT
[#16]
Westshester checking in.  Near LAX if you don't know.  Besides In-N-Out, nothing taste better in the morning besides a donut from Randy's Donuts.  You've all seen it on TV, the place with the big donut on the roof.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:47:00 PM EDT
[#17]
Was shooting the shit with some of my neighbors, mostly retiries in their fifties and sixties, and start talking about guns.  Find that they all have relatively well sized collections and are all very pro gun.  One of my neighbors is a cop and even lets me shoot his MP5. [:D]  And this is in the liberal hell of the bay area.

There are a lot of closet gun owners out there who are afraid of alienating people by talking about guns.  I don't hide my gun ownership and try to educate people about guns.  It is amazing how many people think my AR is full auto.  People don't know the truth till we tell them.  I try to be a good ambassador for the sport.  As far as theft, I have a very heavy safe and retired, armed neighbors just itching to shoot at something. [;)]
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 11:06:11 PM EDT
[#18]
Sydwaiz -- how long ya lived there?
i went to skool in the area, and stay close, the in n out on sepulveda is where i look to for tasty burgers
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 11:23:51 PM EDT
[#19]
LAgunman2K-All my life (27years.)  Are you talking about the In-N-Out on Sepulveda and Lincoln near LAX?  I went to St. Bernards.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 11:49:23 PM EDT
[#20]
Greetings from the beach, Huntington Beach to be exact. I have a lot of friends in this area who are into the RKBA and shooting in general.

As for women, just head down to main street any afternoon, have a little dinner and watch the scenery walk by.  :-)

I'm doing some consulting at Oakley (the sunglass co.) in South County and that place is just jammed to the rafters with Supermodels!!!  Life is good.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 11:49:41 PM EDT
[#21]
And just think of all the Mexicans with illegal unregistered AKs and MAK-90s....there WILL NOT be another Prop. 187......

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

LA County resident here---I know!
Good Luck!
Link Posted: 8/14/2001 12:39:42 AM EDT
[#22]
Sydwaiz -- yep thats the same in n out, right next to the LA REPUBLICAN HQ (see guys its not all liberal democraps living here)

im also class of 91 at bernards

i looked at your profile and saw yer name was mark, i sorta knew of a guy by that name who was a year under me, that also drove a '55 brown shoebox to skool everyday, my brother knew him a bit better than me, and said he had a chinese sks.
dont know if this is you or not
Link Posted: 8/14/2001 2:09:21 AM EDT
[#23]
I'm from Ohio, so I consider you behind enemy lines. I don't blame anybody for wanting to leave Kalifornia and start over some place else(that's what my ancestors did). I say nuke that place from orbit.[:D] God I hope Kali drops off into the ocean soon. I'll miss all the porno studios, but that's about it (maybe they can set up in Nevada or Utah?).
Link Posted: 8/14/2001 5:25:48 AM EDT
[#24]
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Greetings from the beach, Huntington Beach to be exact. I have a lot of friends in this area who are into the RKBA and shooting in general.

As for women, just head down to main street any afternoon, have a little dinner and watch the scenery walk by.  :-)

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I hate you. But then again you don't have an LEGP

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You miss the beach babes too i'd gather[;)]
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Oh boy do I!!! Them womenz gave the time of day. Got a plan though. Seems like out of state womenz will talk to me, so from now on my pick up line is, "Where you from lil lady?" If they say any place other than TX, I'm in baby.


BTW back to the topic of guns in CA. Just an FYI for you guys outside. San Diego and Orange Counties are typically Republican. Tons of ex military as well. MOst of your goofball anti gun liberals are in LA and SF counties. Which is where the majority of the population are unfortunately.
Link Posted: 8/14/2001 6:42:22 AM EDT
[#25]
LAgunman2K, yup that's me!  Small world.  We probably know each other and don't even know it!  Still got the brown shoebox too!  E-mail me
Link Posted: 8/14/2001 8:01:49 AM EDT
[#26]
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/rant/
The Right to Keep and Bear Arms will not be maintained by those that flee whenever conflict rears its head. To those that leave CA because of the laws: what would you do if it actually came time to use your arms in defense of liberty? You have already made your decision to run from conflict, and have hardened your character as a coward.
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radioman
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Well, I'm not sure just how offended to be by this since I didn't grow up in California, but just outside Philadelphia. I married a California girl while I was in the Marines, then we bought a house there when I EAS'd. From the start, I thought Californians were a different breed. The place was overpopulated, overtaxed, overregulated and overpriced. The fact that self-defense was not an acceptable [i][b]justification[/i][/b] for a concealed handgun license astounded me. The fact that the comptroller of Orange County ripped off my money and then got next to no punishment because he was old made me sick.

9% state income tax
3.5% property tax
vehicle registration tax as a percentage of the value of the vehicle
8.5% sales tax, including on clothes
$4.00 for a gallon of milk
$1.90 for a gallon of gas
the 91 freeway
Gray Davis
Dianne Feinstein
Barbara Boxer
Loretta Sanchez
Antonio Villaraigosa

The beaches and the climate weren't worth it to me, so when my company made me an offer to come into the Dallas headquarters, I jumped at it. And my wife was just as happy to sell our 1950 sqft, zero lot line house and move into a brand new, custom built house with every option nearly twice as large on a quarter acre lot, and make $25K in the bargain, We were outta there.

I didn't leave specifically over the anti-gun laws and attitudes there, so maybe you'll say that your "coward" remark doesn't apply to me. Fine, if that's the case, then no hard feelings. But while I was there, I voted in every election, always for the pro-rights candidate, or the closest thing available, and was nearly always disappointed. Sheriff Carona in Orange County ran on a promise to start issuing CHLs, but I didn't see any liberalization of the policies for the year I lived there after he was elected. Has it happened since?

I miss In-N-Out Burger, Del Taco, The Longboarder in HB, Felix's Cuban Cafe on the Circle in Orange, Prado Olympic Shooting Park and some great friends, but that's about it. Texas is my kind of place, and I'm home.

Semper Fidelis
Jarhead out.
Link Posted: 8/14/2001 8:41:07 AM EDT
[#27]
IMO, California is one of those rare states whereas you either completely hate it or you love it.
Some of my family and friends are from Michigan. They can't stand the fast paced life style and I can't stand the small town snail's pace life. My nieces and nephews love California. After a visit from my youngest niece to Southern California, she packed up and moved to San Diego.
It seems when I travel that when I have conversations with whomever I meet, they are genuinely amazed that I'm from California. They ask all sorts of questions and if what they see on TV is what California is really like. To some of them, California is some sort of surreal fantasy land.
I love my state. I can't even imagine living in any other state. We have the best looking women. Year around summer weather. Miles of beaches. Opportunities are everywhere if you're willing to work. And they can't take your guns if they don't know you have them.[;)]
Link Posted: 8/14/2001 8:41:30 AM EDT
[#28]
Hollywood. In a small nice neighborhood. Most of the dwellings around here are duplexes or quadraplexes, then single family houses. Don't have to go very far to get into seamy neighborhoods but I work in "The Industry" (movies, TV, entertainment) and this place is very centralized for work. I can recognize my neighbors but am only on a first name basis with those in my building. I don't know who else has firearms and I don't let it be known I have them.
Link Posted: 8/14/2001 8:42:31 AM EDT
[#29]
MAN,I've lived in Huntington Bch.(newland & adams)El Toro(off ridge route & rockfield) Laguna Hills(Off Alicia Pkwy & Hon)Now I'm in El Segundo(LAX)also know that In&out on sepulveda.Sydwaiz and LAgunman2k, we ought to get together for a shoot,we are all within a couple of miles of eachother,how about the range on Manchester?
Link Posted: 8/14/2001 9:16:26 PM EDT
[#30]
BTT.

LAgunman2K- I've been racking my brain trying to figure out who you are.  Not many people know what I have.  Especially since I got that gun after Bernards.  I would e-mail you but your address isnt listed.

For all the rest of you: Is anyone else going to the SoCal shoot as mentioned on the meetings & events board?  
Link Posted: 8/14/2001 9:33:35 PM EDT
[#31]
Well I haven't gotten to know my neighbors that well,considering I live in a bachelor house in a family neighborhood (Mission Viejo). I have had a couple gun rags delivered to me by accident so I know there are at least a couple gun nuts around here.
Link Posted: 8/15/2001 8:58:41 AM EDT
[#32]
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Link Posted: 8/15/2001 9:29:47 AM EDT
[#33]
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From the start, I thought Californians were a different breed.

Sheriff Carona in Orange County ran on a promise to start issuing CHLs, but I didn't see any liberalization of the policies for the year I lived there after he was elected. Has it happened since?

Semper Fidelis
Jarhead out.
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Being a native Californian coming to TX I thought the same way about TX and still do. TX have a culture of their own and are a different breed. Not bad, but not good in my case either. Taking me longer to adapt.

Yes Sherriff Corona has increased the issuance of CCW. You still have to justify the need, but the justifiction has gotten laxed.
Link Posted: 8/15/2001 9:49:38 AM EDT
[#34]
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Being a native Californian coming to TX I thought the same way about TX and still do. TX have a culture of their own and are a different breed. Not bad, but not good in my case either. Taking me longer to adapt.
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I know what you mean about TX, lordtrader. But I found Texans to be very open and friendly when I got here. Strangers would ask how I was doing, and from the pause afterwards and the look on their faces, they really wanted to know! Rarely, if ever, do you see a driver stranded alone on the side of the road next to his or her car. Almost always you'll see another driver stopped and offering assistance.

My wife, a first generation American of Mexican descent, has told me that she notices that the Hispanic aspect of Texas' culture is embraced a lot more than it is in California.

Yes Sherriff Corona has increased the issuance of CCW. You still have to justify the need, but the justifiction has gotten laxed.
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That's not what he said when he was running. It sounds to me like he was telling the Republicans in OC one thing to get the job, but now he's keeping his buddies in Sacramento happy by doing something else. Like I said, I didn't hear about any new policy for a year after the election while I still lived in Anaheim Hills, just a lot of talk about a new program once he had studied the situation. Sounds like quibbling to me.

Justification my ass. [:D] Shall-issue for me!

Semper Fidelis
Jarhead out.
Link Posted: 8/15/2001 3:22:40 PM EDT
[#35]
Link Posted: 8/15/2001 4:04:18 PM EDT
[#36]
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Justification my ass. [:D] Shall-issue for me!

Semper Fidelis
Jarhead out.
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I am there with you man. I just got my voter reg card in the mail on Mon. So I am now a TX resident. So for my B-day, I am gonna buy an HS2000 and sign up for my CHL class. All for under $500 what a deal huh? And I here the new .40S&W HS2000 will be out by then.


Big Bear, you are correct. CA is not a shall issue state. So Corona is really pissing off some people in Sacto rather than making friends. What he has issued in CA maybe inconsequential compared to other states, however remember CA is not shall issue state. The CRPA and the NRA is really behind this guy. I recall an interview with him on some cable access channel and was asked how he felt about SB23 and he declined to answer it. To me that was a way to tactfully say, I think its sucks. Sheriffs are part politicans.  
Link Posted: 8/15/2001 11:27:36 PM EDT
[#37]
Sydwaiz -- my brother Donald knows you better, and he told me about the SKS.
i was friends with jeff b, david b, eric g

ya can email me [email protected]
Link Posted: 8/16/2001 6:53:43 PM EDT
[#38]
Sluggo-Long Beach City,checking in.If any of you local guys have any questions about our local "WebShooters" group shoots,email me and I'll fill you in.[heavy]
Link Posted: 8/16/2001 7:05:44 PM EDT
[#39]
Link Posted: 8/16/2001 9:15:08 PM EDT
[#40]
]

Hey I use to live there. Trabuco and Peachwood. Just up the street from Capt. Creams. I miss that El Pollo loco of Bake and Trabuco and the In & Out off Alton and Foothill ranch. I miss the beach. [/quote]


Thats right by my work go to captians after usually.and cant miss the in& out.As far as the neighbors where i live there about 5 of us on my block who are into guns 3 are old and have lots of reloading ex so it comes in handy too.
Link Posted: 8/16/2001 9:51:45 PM EDT
[#41]
I love Kalifornia.
Where else can I stand in front of [b]Home Depot[/b] every day and earn tax-free cash!

All I do is loiter around with my buddies and wait for whitey to pull up in the pick-up and honk.
Link Posted: 8/16/2001 9:54:26 PM EDT
[#42]
On slow days I make a sign that says, [b]"Gulf War Vet- Will work for ammunition"[/b] and stand right off the 60 freeway exit on Rosemead Blvd.
Link Posted: 8/16/2001 10:31:56 PM EDT
[#43]
You Saint Bernards guys.. tisk, tisk!!

Westchester High School C/O 86

I still live in L.A. too!

I've met quite a few people who still believe in the 2nd.

Funny thing i've been doing is wearing my [B]AR15.com[/B] quite a bit. To work, to places I frequent.

I've even had a few good conversations because of it.

I think there is a growing number of people who are angered by whats going on,but not angry enough to do much about it.

Thats whats sad about it but yet there have been people i've talked to who refuse to be disarmed but don't make the effort to do something about the problem.

Some people could [B]AT LEAST[/B] vote for candidates who won't take their rights away....

A play upon Apple's slogan would be,
[I]"Vote Dfferent!"[/I] LOL.
Link Posted: 8/16/2001 10:42:07 PM EDT
[#44]
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On slow days I make a sign that says, [b]"Gulf War Vet- Will work for ammunition"[/b] and stand right off the 60 freeway exit on Rosemead Blvd.
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I've got plenty of ammo, what kind of work do you do????

[:D] [:D] [:D]
Link Posted: 8/16/2001 11:56:43 PM EDT
[#45]
Studio City here. I go to school in Redlands most of the time. The really fun guns I own are in Idaho but I have enough to get the job done here. Say what you want, if I had a neutron bomb, CA is the best place to live I can think off... I will always have a residence here.
Link Posted: 8/16/2001 11:57:43 PM EDT
[#46]
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I love California - where else can a high school graduate have three jobs paying $50 an hour within one month of arriving [:)] and since I'm not a legal resident (of the state) I don't pay their income taxes.
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Care to fill me in on the WHERE and HOW on this one?? Legal and respectable?

Oh, OK....you were joking around.
Silly Rabbit!

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HAPPY COWS COME FROM CALIFORNIA----LITERALLY!
Link Posted: 8/17/2001 8:56:07 AM EDT
[#47]
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