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Posted: 9/1/2005 2:53:39 PM EDT

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the philosophy of the classroom in one generation has become the philosophy on the street for the next.

Teach kids that there is no God and that man is an evolved animal and you get adults with no moral restraints who live by the survival of the fittest and morality of the strong.

A leading apologist for evolution stated that one of the main reasons for evolution is to cast off "God-based" morality.

That is not a tenet of evolutionary theory. Morality has nothing to do with evolution, except where it would provide an advantage or disadvantage to survival and reproduction.

Jim

Posted: 9/1/2005 2:59:21 PM EDT

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I'm wondering when we'll see people (ARFCOMmers?) sitting outside of city limits with some .50BMG's picking off individual criminal scum on behalf of the police.

Posted: 9/1/2005 3:05:19 PM EDT

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The typical "shoot 'em all" and "seek and destroy" team responses aside....

What is most realistically gonna be the solution (or lack thereof) for the wild animals on the loose in N.O.?
Will the .gov ignore and hope it goes away? Will or .mil have to go in and treat it like a warzone? It seems like N.O. is seriously on its way (if not already there) to becoming a third world crime hole.

Posted: 9/1/2005 3:06:16 PM EDT

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Somolia.
= they must be black = racism

michaelj1978: you're acting like an ass. That was only racist if that's what you wanted to see. The comparisons are obvious, for example, mob rule, firepower and attacking the legal authority.

Another thing that's obvious is that you are a provocateur, rather than a discussion partner.

Posted: 9/1/2005 3:11:00 PM EDT

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Barbarism is the natural state of mankind, civilization is just a a whim.........
And if mankind in inherently evil, where does your conscience come from?

If one has never been taught / enlightened with regards to their "concience" (read: moral compass), do they still benefit from it? What I'm asking is: If you have never been taught right from wrong, or that 'a little voice in your head' makes you feel guilty if you do a bad thing, do you still realize your "concience"? In that case, would one even have what you percieve to be your concience?

Posted: 9/1/2005 3:13:00 PM EDT

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Hmmmmm. I wonder how the ROPers in Iraq are seeing this?

One possibility:
"If they can't gain control of one fairly compact, admitedly waterlogged city in their heartland against a few thousand loosely co-ordinated (to be generous) thugs, dont't you think we can hang on here 10k miles away?

This country is beginning to look foolish- not a good thing for the self-proclaimed "World's Remaining Superpower."

Posted: 9/1/2005 3:34:07 PM EDT

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Posted: 9/1/2005 3:34:46 PM EDT

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"All units IRENE, I say again IRENE"

"I've got your position and I've got the target...We're inbound hot"

"C2 Mini-Guns Dry, requesting permission to return to Base to re-arm, over"

"Roger that...Second team inbound your station....On your location in 4 minutes"

Posted: 9/1/2005 3:42:01 PM EDT

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Of the 2 million prisoners in the United States, 50% of them are black.

Of the 200 million people in the US, 12 million are black.

That means 10% of the entire black population is in jail.

That means black's are 500%+ more likely to commit crime then any other race.

Statistics, Statistics.

They are also the poorest people in the country if you compare races.

Is it something to do with black people? Or just a fluke in statistics and has nothing to do with being black? I will lean towards it having to do with being black.

Posted: 9/1/2005 3:49:48 PM EDT

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Oh, you've done it now. You've gone and posted FACTS that support unpopular ideas!

Being right won't make you popular with apologists and the politically correct.

But... FUCK the apologists and the politically correct!

My county is 12 percent black. My county jail is 80 percent black.

YES, THERE IS A PROBLEM HERE AND ITS ROOTS ARE RACIAL!

CJ

Posted: 9/1/2005 3:50:49 PM EDT

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Of the 2 million prisoners in the United States, 50% of them are black.

Of the 200 million people in the US, 12 million are black.

That means 10% of the entire black population is in jail.

That means black's are 500%+ more likely to commit crime then any other race.

Statistics, Statistics.

They are also the poorest people in the country if you compare races.

Is it something to do with black people? Or just a fluke in statistics and has nothing to do with being black? I will lean towards it having to do with being black.

yes but according to most if you belive this then you must be racist....

Posted: 9/1/2005 3:53:11 PM EDT

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It is just incredibly stupid. I don't believe in God and I'm not robbing, raping and looting.

Can you give a morally compelling reason why not? "it's just not right" is not good enough. WHY is it not right? And the answer to that question must not only be sound, it must be a compelling reason, a reason that forces other folks to accept it.

You may well decide that robbing raping and killing is not right for you, and you may even have nice reasons why. But do those reasons impose themselves on your neighbor? Would you like them to? What if your neighbor decides that robbing and killing you IS right for him or is in HIS best interests, what moral right do you have to tell him that it's wrong?

Our culture has foolishly adopted a reletivistic moral system that says "don't impose YOUR morality on ME"

We now see that played out in the extreme in NOLA.

Two basic philosophical questions are being asked and answered:

1. what is right and wrong?
2. who has the authority to enforce the answers to #1?

If the individual decides, then thre will be many different and conflicting systems, and there is no compelling reason for one person to accept the moral system of someone else, EXCEPT THROUGH FORCE.

But if there is a God who decides the rules himself, and will judge each individual for his actions, we then have a universal, transcendent (not based on man or his ideas) standard moral system and a compelling reason to obey it. Imagine the kind of order and harmony a society would have if there was no question about what the rules were or that there was a real good reason for you to obey them.

Apart from a Creator, the only moral systems we have are ones created by people, and therefore they differ, and are probably flawed because people are inherently selfish. And because people are "equal" there is no way to determine which system is "right, superior, or better", and also no compelling reason for person A to accept the authority of person B to impose their moral system on everyone else.

No, bibles dropped in will not stop the violence, because these folks have lived under this false philosophy all of their lives, and to suggest that that is my solution is plain stupid.

Have we sown the seeds that we're reaping?

Posted: 9/1/2005 3:54:31 PM EDT

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Of the 2 million prisoners in the United States, 50% of them are black.

Of the 200 million people in the US, 12 million are black.

That means 10% of the entire black population is in jail.

That means black's are 500%+ more likely to commit crime then any other race.

Statistics, Statistics.

They are also the poorest people in the country if you compare races.

Is it something to do with black people? Or just a fluke in statistics and has nothing to do with being black? I will lean towards it having to do with being black.

That you McUZI?

Posted: 9/1/2005 3:54:40 PM EDT

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I am not against gun control but I think if the "laws" run accross anyone there with a gun they should be shot on sight. You might have other veiws on this but if the guy is running down the street with a rifle then he's not protecting his shit, if you roll up in a house and run accross a guy with a gun then he is prolly protecting his family. So shooting them in the streets seems like it would work.

Your an idiot. How about they just shoot the people who are posing a threat. Not walking/running down the damn street.

Posted: 9/1/2005 3:58:40 PM EDT

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Just reported on FOX News.........................after dark the gangs are taking over. Rape, robberies and murder are the norm each night. What a hell it must be for these poor people. It reminds me of feudal society from the middle ages............ If this isn't SHTF. what is?

as some say, the people trapped there are just trying to survive any way they can

that is some crap

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:04:07 PM EDT

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Somolia.
= they must be black = racism

That's your choice to perceive what I said as racist. I think that reflects on YOUR mentatility more than mine.

I was referring to Gang Rule.

joking dood... we've just had lots of threads that people took words others said and started crying racism bla, bla, bla.

Keep your day job.

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:04:31 PM EDT

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YOU GUYS HAVE HIJACKED MY THREAD....................WANNA TALK RELIGION?.GO TO THE RELIGION FORUM...

I'll say it agian, you cannot segregate "religion" from the other areas of life and treat it as a separate and autonomous consideration. It affects every other area of a person's philosophy, including morality.

whoops double tap. I have an intermittent wireless connection... sorry

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:07:19 PM EDT

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So, where is the AR15.com calvary meeting up to re-take the town for the good guys?

You Kidding? You seen how much gasoline is?

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:09:07 PM EDT

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Does it really matter what color they are? White people kill, rape , steal, and rob. Black people kill rape steal and rob. In this situation it the majority of people looked black. So who cares?

Why do I always see the same thing. Watts,LA riots,New Orleans,Basket Ball Championship

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:13:42 PM EDT

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Why is it racism? I watched maybe like 30 diff film clips so far and in all those I seen maybe 5 white people. 3 of them I know were tourist that got stranded. I seen something a few minutes ago about Sniper fire on a charity hospital they were evacuating? WTF are these idiots thinking? They shot at choopers at the Dome, that got them nothing but evac shut off. I am not against gun control but I think if the "laws" run accross anyone there with a gun they should be shot on sight. You might have other veiws on this but if the guy is running down the street with a rifle then he's not protecting his shit, if you roll up in a house and run accross a guy with a gun then he is prolly protecting his family. So shooting them in the streets seems like it would work.

.gov magic word "curfew"...

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:14:22 PM EDT

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Can you give a morally compelling reason why not? "it's just not right" is not good enough. WHY is it not right? And the answer to that question must not only be sound, it must be a compelling reason, a reason that forces other folks to accept it.

You mean other than its how you want, and exepct, other people to treat you if you were in their shoes?

Treat others as you wish to be treated yourself. That is not a uniquely Judeo-Christian philosophy...

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:15:20 PM EDT

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Does it really matter what color they are? White people kill, rape , steal, and rob. Black people kill rape steal and rob. In this situation it the majority of people looked black. So who cares?

Why do I always see the same thing. Watts,LA riots,New Orleans,Basket Ball Championship

Economics.

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:15:42 PM EDT

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the philosophy of the classroom in one generation has become the philosophy on the street for the next.

Teach kids that there is no God and that man is an evolved animal and you get adults with no moral restraints who live by the survival of the fittest and morality of the strong.

I don't beleive in god and I would never do the things that are going on in NO. I am a law abiding citizen and I respect peoples property, I dont need god to be a good person and I never will. You need a crutch fine have at it.

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:16:53 PM EDT

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Well hell, I'm just glad o be sitting here being entertained by ARFCOM, admiring my new AK underfolder, and thinking about how much I like pie.

What was this thread originally about anyway?

I add a porno tape and some Phish Food ice cream to that list....

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:17:13 PM EDT

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Several people have commented that one of the major reasons we're seeing this is because all the more "civilized" (for lack of a better term) people left.

All that are there now (with some exceptions of course) are the gang bangers, poor and those used to ether sucking on the government teat or having the government keeping them in line.

Everyone in this nation should be taking notes about what happens when the thin veneer of "civilization" is ripped away. It's something the liberals don't ever want to acknowledge, that many humans will revert to animals as soon as cages (welfare, TV, beer) are opened (removed).

This is a dress rehearsal for what happens if the middle class is taxed/suppressed to oblivion and there is no more money coming in for the government to redistribute to the Welfare State teat suckers to keep them in check.

This is happenning because the long arm of the law has been disabled. This same thing would happen in any major city where they hesitated to crack down and impose law and order in a rapid fashion.

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:18:48 PM EDT

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Of the 2 million prisoners in the United States, 50% of them are black.

Of the 200 million people in the US, 12 million are black.

That means 10% of the entire black population is in jail.

That means black's are 500%+ more likely to commit crime then any other race.

Statistics, Statistics.

They are also the poorest people in the country if you compare races.

Is it something to do with black people? Or just a fluke in statistics and has nothing to do with being black? I will lean towards it having to do with being black.

That you McUZI?

It is not a racial issue, it is a cultural issue. It is the ghetto or thug mentality that is the true enemy here.

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:20:38 PM EDT

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this is NOT a racial issue. You won't find black folks in Paris more prone to crime or riots or whatever.

This is an American ghetto CULTURE issue, which happens to encompass predominantly black folks.

The welfare state has almost entirely undercut and destroyed the black family, ruined it's male leadership (both personal in terms of family and general in terms of culture). and created a whole culture of people who are economic and political parasites- they live off the labor and enterprise of others. And the culture is growing...

Back to the religion thing, it's not a separate issue: The Bible says if a man will not (not cannot) work, then he should not eat.

But we decided that the Bible was wrong and that we had a better idea...

Have we sown the seeds we're reaping?

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:21:30 PM EDT

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this is NOT a racial issue. You won't find black folks in Paris more prone to crime or riots or whatever.

This is an American ghetto CULTURE issue, which happens to encompass predominantly black folks.
The welfare state has almost entirely undercut and destroyed the black family, ruined it's male leadership (both personal in terms of family and general in terms of culture). and created a whole culture of people who are economic and political parasites- they live off the labor and enterprise of others. And the culture is growing...

Back to the religion thing, it's not a separate issue: The Bible says if a man will not (not cannot) work, then he should not eat.

But we decided that the Bible was wrong and that we had a better idea...

Have we sown the seeds we're reaping?

You are right on the money

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:21:43 PM EDT

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Does it really matter what color they are? White people kill, rape , steal, and rob. Black people kill rape steal and rob. In this situation it the majority of people looked black. So who cares?

Nobody does care. And if the people (no matter what "type") of NO keep acting like they are, nobody will care enough to donate any money, either.

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:22:16 PM EDT

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I am not against gun control but I think if the "laws" run accross anyone there with a gun they should be shot on sight. You might have other veiws on this but if the guy is running down the street with a rifle then he's not protecting his shit, if you roll up in a house and run accross a guy with a gun then he is prolly protecting his family. So shooting them in the streets seems like it would work.

Your an idiot. How about they just shoot the people who are posing a threat. Not walking/running down the damn street.

in a SHTF situation ypu should be either in your car didi-ing the f$%k outta there, in your place of business or your property, you should not be out and about walking around with a weapon especially a longarm during a curfew....

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:23:05 PM EDT

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so who makes a good NV scope?

I have beem using Thales on the AI's.

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:27:23 PM EDT

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...Of the 200 million people in the US, 12 million are black.

That should read: "Of the 290 Million people in the U.S., 12% are black."

There are around 35 Million black people in the U.S.

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:32:13 PM EDT

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WWGJD?

What Would General Jackson Do?

img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-3/963911/jackson-andrew.jpg

He would liquidate the thugs and make sure the Louisiana Offshore Oil Port was rockin' and rollin'.

Fuck looters. Fuck PC. It's time for national survival.

Posted: 9/1/2005 4:39:37 PM EDT

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in a SHTF situation ypu should be either in your car didi-ing the f$%k outta there, in your place of business or your property, you should not be out and about walking around with a weapon especially a longarm during a curfew....

These people have already lost the opportunity to drive away and their homes/businesses are destroyed. That means they need to seek high ground, they need to find food/water, and they shouldn't leave their weapons behind. I am not saying that all these people are innocent or anything like that, but just having a weapon doesn't make them criminal either.

How the hell do you have a curfew when you have no home to go to.

Posted: 9/1/2005 6:05:29 PM EDT

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in a SHTF situation ypu should be either in your car didi-ing the f$%k outta there, in your place of business or your property, you should not be out and about walking around with a weapon especially a longarm during a curfew....

These people have already lost the opportunity to drive away and their homes/businesses are destroyed. That means they need to seek high ground, they need to find food/water, and they shouldn't leave their weapons behind. I am not saying that all these people are innocent or anything like that, but just having a weapon doesn't make them criminal either.

How the hell do you have a curfew when you have no home to go to.

I agree not everyone with a weapon is a criminal but it would be pretty foolish to try it at night with anxious armed homeowners, overworked police, National Guardsmen with no lights at night. During Andrew I evacuated but I came back to no lights, no water, no gas, unpassable roads, no cash and anarchy even with National Guardsmen. NOLA is a different situation with flooding of biblical proportions. Order was finally restored when real military units like the 82nd Airborne showed up. I did not have such good food but I had an AR-15 and about 2000 rounds and a Beretta 92. When I walked to an area that the military had staged to give out ice and water I did it during the day and I left my guns at home.....I would not have been allowed to enter a Red Cross area guarded by the US Army with my AR-15

Posted: 9/1/2005 6:45:39 PM EDT

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""Technicals" cannot be far behind...probably setting a few up as we speak...or plotting to steal a couple from the NG."

Technical on a lake, eh?

Might look something like this:

In all seriousness though, I'm sure the people looting and pillaging either stayed behind on purpose, or were just to stupid to evacuate before the storm. Of the innocents stuck there through stupidity, bad luck, and lack of transportation...... I blame that squarely on the mayor. He isn't fit to run a Pizza Hut, let alone a major city.

Posted: 9/1/2005 8:20:50 PM EDT

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YOU GUYS HAVE HIJACKED MY THREAD....................WANNA TALK RELIGION?.GO TO THE RELIGION FORUM...

Sorry, I will cease and desist.

Posted: 9/1/2005 8:24:26 PM EDT

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Have we sown the seeds that we're reaping?

Yup

Posted: 9/1/2005 8:27:09 PM EDT

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Does it really matter what color they are? White people kill, rape , steal, and rob. Black people kill rape steal and rob. In this situation it the majority of people looked black. So who cares?

Yeah, if you say so. So if this happened in Utah for instance you'd see the same thing except the perps would be white?www.ar15.com/images/smilies/anim_rolleyes.gif

No Fuckin Way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

The Mormons must go door to door to give out book of mormon lol

Posted: 9/1/2005 8:48:50 PM EDT

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""Warriors ... come out to playeeeyaaay...

warriorsmovie.co.uk/pictures/images/stills/still21.jpg

Thanks. I had forgotten all about that movie. It was one of my favorites as a kid.

Posted: 9/1/2005 9:08:01 PM EDT

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Of the 2 million prisoners in the United States, 50% of them are black.

Of the 200 million people in the US, 12 million are black.

That means 10% of the entire black population is in jail.

That means black's are 500%+ more likely to commit crime then any other race.

Statistics, Statistics.

They are also the poorest people in the country if you compare races.

Is it something to do with black people? Or just a fluke in statistics and has nothing to do with being black? I will lean towards it having to do with being black.

That you McUZI?

It is not a racial issue, it is a cultural issue. It is the ghetto or thug mentality that is the true enemy here.

Isn't this like the weather man saying a forty percent chance of rain,doesn't that mean there is a 60 percent chance it won't rain?

So by your own statistics by saying 10 percent of the whole black American people are in prison,does that not also mean that 90 percent are just hard working good old American joes??

Get your ducks in a row!!!!! I'm all for thinking that 90 percent of the black Americans are glad that the ten percenters are there!!!

Bob

Posted: 9/1/2005 9:11:58 PM EDT

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They are black and white. Scum of the earth. dreg of society. Let darwin take over. Whos cares if the majority are black? I don't. The more dead morons there are, the better.

Posted: 9/1/2005 9:16:04 PM EDT

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Several people have commented that one of the major reasons we're seeing this is because all the more "civilized" (for lack of a better term) people left.

All that are there now (with some exceptions of course) are the gang bangers, poor and those used to ether sucking on the government teat or having the government keeping them in line.

Everyone in this nation should be taking notes about what happens when the thin veneer of "civilization" is ripped away. It's something the liberals don't ever want to acknowledge, that many humans will revert to animals as soon as cages (welfare, TV, beer) are opened (removed).

This is a dress rehearsal for what happens if the middle class is taxed/suppressed to oblivion and there is no more money coming in for the government to redistribute to the Welfare State teat suckers to keep them in check.

Well said. Ditto!

Posted: 9/1/2005 10:02:38 PM EDT

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This is getting pretty damn embarrassing as an American.

What the fuck is wrong with people???

This is the result of decades of liberalism.

Posted: 9/1/2005 10:12:34 PM EDT

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Of the 2 million prisoners in the United States, 50% of them are black.

Of the 200 million people in the US, 12 million are black.

That means 10% of the entire black population is in jail. (8.33%) 8.33X 12= 99.96
But another post throws the numbers off anyway.
That means black's are 500%+ more likely to commit crime then any other race.

Statistics, Statistics.

They are also the poorest people in the country if you compare races.

Is it something to do with black people? Or just a fluke in statistics and has nothing to do with being black? I will lean towards it having to do with being black.

That you McUZI?

It is not a racial issue, it is a cultural issue. It is the ghetto or thug mentality that is the true enemy here.

Posted: 9/2/2005 5:14:02 AM EDT

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So, where is the AR15.com calvary meeting up to re-take the town for the good guys?

You Kidding? You seen how much gasoline is?

All kidding aside. Gas shortages get worse, prices keep going up. How much longer will it be before we see fights in the gas lines, tempers running short, and god forbid, people killing each other because they cut in the gas lines.

Every day we are just *this* close to anarchy. Times like this make me really appreciate what I have.