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Posted: 7/5/2001 10:48:56 AM EDT
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YOu have just stumbled across yet another Hollywood hypocracy.
They smoke, and they make movies that show smoking is cool. Then they all pitch in money behind the dems that are trying to portray smokers as child killers. They make movies that glorify guns and make kids want them, and create this great mystique of the gun. But then none of us lowly plebes should allowed the own them. I've given up on trying to apply logic and reason to Hollywood, the two go together like oil and water! |
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Posted: 7/5/2001 10:57:59 AM EDT
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Hey, a Sharon Stone movie would not be complete if she didn't masturbate and smoke. I look forward to it!
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Posted: 7/5/2001 11:08:03 AM EDT
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O.K. I know Hollywood is a hypocritical bunch of A-holes, and I can see them doing just what Matt S says, but does anyone think Tobacco is paying for it????? It seemed like it didn't fit the script, or the script was written to include them on purpose. I sound like a conspiracy nut, but I think Hollywood is getting money from them, talk about strange bedfellows!
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Posted: 7/5/2001 11:40:26 AM EDT
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No two industries have waltzed together as merrily through the years as tobacco and moving pictures. Films make cigarettes glamourous, and cigarettes lend that glamour back to generation after generation of chain-smoking stars. There have been stories of underhand deals to make sure actors smoked as much as possible through films, and actors who openly advertised cigarettes. According to the anti-smoking lobby, it was Hollywood that taught women to smoke. Husky-voiced foreign temptresses such as Marlene Dietrich and Greta Garbo made cigarettes sexy and they were followed by Americans like Katharine Hepburn.
Many of this century's films have leant heavily on cigarettes to suggest sexual intentions, andForties audiences didn't need a dowsing in Freud to tell them what was going on. But foreplay was only one use for cigarettes. If you didn't have a handy fag or cheroot, how could you light a stick of dynamite or a trail of gunpowder? In 1957, when Bogart (the best advert the tobacco companies ever had) died of cancer of the oesophagus, aged 57, the links between smoking and the disease that killed him were just starting to be discussed. But tradition was as strong as it had ever been: James Dean, dead two years before Bogart, had already entered the smoker's hall of fame. In the Sixties and Seventies, Hollywood's rebellious phase, movies wouldn't have been complete without a smoker: pick any name but start with Clint Eastwood and Steve McQueen, who was also victim of lung cancer. But as medical opinion hardened, America fell out of love with the tobacco industry, and nowhere more so than California.Anti-smoking organisations insist that, statistically, smoking in American films remained steady from 1960to 1990, and then boomed again. BTW, "Duck Soup" is the oldest movie with a tobacco paper trail, but tobacco became the largest theater "sponsor" in 1888, & has never left the top ten advertisers list since.... |
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Posted: 7/5/2001 12:25:05 PM EDT
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If you are trying to give up smoking, do not watch "Scandal". Actually I do think many movies encourage smoking. They also use it to portray bad guys.
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Posted: 7/5/2001 12:42:51 PM EDT
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Gewehr: They also use it to portray bad guys. [b]A[/b]lcohol [b]T[/b]obacco & [b]F[/b]irearms........... They'll make you a "bad guy" every time, right? [BD] |
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Posted: 7/5/2001 9:39:41 PM EDT
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They should stop showing people smoking. And while they are at it they should stop showing people consuming alcoholic beverages, using guns and profanity, breaking laws and committing traffic violations. You know...for the children.
For Christ sake take some responsibility as a parent. If your kids are so easily influenced then keep them away from the television and starting parenting them. It sounds like a bunch of damn pillow biting liberals in here wanting someone to censor everything from all of society because they don't want to do a little parenting. |
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Posted: 7/6/2001 8:00:05 AM EDT
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Back when we were dating, my wife and I went to see Oliver Stone's "JFK". She smokes, I don't. There was so much smoking going on onscreen that she just about had a nicotine fit.
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Posted: 7/6/2001 8:35:26 AM EDT
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Quoted: They should stop showing people smoking. And while they are at it they should stop showing people consuming alcoholic beverages, using guns and profanity, breaking laws and committing traffic violations. You know...for the children. For Christ sake take some responsibility as a parent. If your kids are so easily influenced then keep them away from the television and starting parenting them. It sounds like a bunch of damn pillow biting liberals in here wanting someone to censor everything from all of society because they don't want to do a little parenting. Hey gunslinger, CHILL!!! I think if you go back and reread my first post you will see that I don't want to ban anything. After rereading everyone's posts, I don't know where you came up with anyone wanting to ban anything. We were just pointing out the hypocritical ways of Hollywood. I just asked if Tobacco was paying for their spots in movies. I also pointed out that since I don't remember that many movies in the 80's having constant smoking by the actors, this during the era of the "Cool Camel" or what ever his name is, that censoring probably caused the recent return to smoking in movies and tv. I graduated in the 80's and NO one smoked except a few losers. I teach at a High school now, and I will bet that at least half of all students smoke. I know because they frick'en stink!Exactly what the people who want the Tobacco companies put out of business, don't want. I don't support the lawsuits against Tobacco companies. I feel they should be able to market their product anyway they like. I feel that its my job as a parent to point out how bad smoking is to my boys. BTW, I started talking to them about what happened to their Great Grandfather, and smoking when they were old enough to ask me what people had in their mouths that had smoke. guns762 |
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