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Posted: 6/14/2001 8:25:57 AM EDT
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The Chinese beret issue makes me sick. Though I have another question for you. How do you feel about U.S. troops serving on foreign made vessels, and using foreign made arms ? I think the beret issue is just the cherry on top.
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Posted: 6/14/2001 8:27:27 AM EDT
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The berets we have are not made in China. I'm looking at the tag right now, and it says the "Bernard Cap Co."
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Posted: 6/14/2001 8:33:00 AM EDT
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Quoted: How do you feel about U.S. troops serving on foreign made vessels, and using foreign made arms ? I think the beret issue is just the cherry on top. If I remember correctly, that very question was the reason why the U.S. adopted the M-14 instead of the FAL. Almost all of our weapons are made in the US, but some are foreign companies. I can deal with that. What I have a problem with, is purchasing our weapons/uniforms from a country that is considered hostile (yes, hostile) to the US. There is a chance, some say a GOOD one, that we will be at war with China in the next 10-15 years. If you want to do buisiness with your enemy and help him buy the weapons that will be pointing at you in a few years, go ahead. See this topic also... [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=29510#lastPost[/url] |
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Posted: 6/14/2001 8:35:07 AM EDT
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Quoted: The berets we have are not made in China. I'm looking at the tag right now, and it says the "Bernard Cap Co." Have they issued the new ones yet? The new ones are coming from the ChiComs, as far as I know. I heard they were going to cancel the order, but then I heard they already paid for them, so they're still getting them. |
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Posted: 6/14/2001 8:36:15 AM EDT
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i do believe the china consession was cancelled, what wasnt distributed was sent back, and what was distributed was destroyed..
but this is just what i have heard.. |
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Posted: 6/14/2001 8:39:14 AM EDT
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Quoted: i do believe the china consession was cancelled, what wasnt distributed was sent back, and what was distributed was destroyed.. but this is just what i have heard.. Does anyone have a source to confirm this? Hopefully it's true. |
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Posted: 6/14/2001 8:41:56 AM EDT
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Read this and weap Shineski, you POS.
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/05/01/army.berets/index.html[/url] |
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Posted: 6/14/2001 8:43:59 AM EDT
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The one I was just issued was NOT made in China.
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Posted: 6/14/2001 8:48:16 AM EDT
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Quoted: The one I was just issued was NOT made in China. Yep. See above link. The order was cancelled! [beer] |
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Posted: 6/14/2001 8:56:48 AM EDT
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Yep, brand new, haven't even started prepping it yet. Just for info, our original issue was pushed back two months because the commander refused the Chinese berets. Partial issue was just last week to about a third of the unit, and is for dress wear only. BDU caps are still everyday wear. (Army reserve)
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Posted: 6/14/2001 12:26:27 PM EDT
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I STILL think that it is an insult to the Rangers....
Ahh well, SHADDAP, and follow orders to the best of our ability. I guess that we will find out @ drill. |
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Posted: 6/14/2001 4:48:24 PM EDT
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Berets are going to look really gay if the soldier doesn't have a high and tight. Hell most of the people in the regular army couldn't wear there caps right. Now they gonna have this fuzzy, floppy thing on there head. What is the army gonna do with all there cunt caps?
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Posted: 6/14/2001 4:55:17 PM EDT
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No, the Chinese berets were canceled. That's why everyone is not getting the berets today, the Army's birthday. Now it's "you get them when you get them."
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Posted: 6/14/2001 6:17:02 PM EDT
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I thought Bancroft made the berets for the Army.
Maybe they just make the green beanie. It sickens me to think that one of the reasons for issuing the black beret was because it would not show dirt as easily. I wonder if they show the blood of all the Rangers that have sacrificed their lives for God and country? Earned, not issued. Sigman out. |
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Posted: 6/14/2001 6:44:25 PM EDT
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i think it's appropriate for a new soldier who knows nothing and has earned nothing should be made to wear a cover that is
hot in the summer cold in the winter will not keep the sun out of his (or her) eyes or off their necks. They should have to earn a proper head cover and discard this silly beanie. It may be a badge of honor to some but it is the most useless piece of issue gear since the bayonet lug on a CAR. It seems fitting that new recruits in the “don’t ask don’t tell” army should be made to wear a cover that no straight civilian male would be caught dead wearing. |
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Posted: 6/14/2001 6:56:29 PM EDT
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Quoted: I STILL think that it is an insult to the Rangers.... Amen to that. CS |
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Posted: 6/14/2001 8:09:56 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: How do you feel about U.S. troops serving on foreign made vessels, and using foreign made arms ? I think the beret issue is just the cherry on top. ...Almost all of our weapons are made in the US, but some are foreign companies. I can deal with that. What I have a problem with, is purchasing our weapons/uniforms from a country that is considered hostile (yes, hostile) to the US. There is a chance, some say a GOOD one, that we will be at war with China in the next 10-15 years. If you want to do buisiness with your enemy and help him buy the weapons that will be pointing at you in a few years, go ahead... Regarding the the chance of us going into war soon... I pray for those whom are in armed service for our country, and I want to give a sincere thanks to those whom have served in the past. I say this, because I'm not a soldier (but I'm a programmer), but may be in the near future... Well, regarding the future chance of war... I recently (a month ago) went into an interview to get a job programming missile guidance systems for a company which manufactures MANY current secret military technologies. Needless to say I didn't get the job, but they gave me an inside hint... Since the recent threats from radical-wing North Korean newspapers, and the recent tensions with China, their company was given orders from the defense dept to mfg a few million (forgot how many) Abrams Tank rounds, and a few other orders their representative couldn't discuss with me. One thing that was kewl though is that I got to see the new Objective Individual Combat Weapon that they're working bugs out of (the guidance system has a small bug for their smart-grenade launcher). Sweet toy though! I could only see it through a thick BP glass window & many security guards... I WANT ONE! The Government must know something we may not if they've ordered for that many more tank rounds & kicked the defense manufacturers butts into high gear. My friend got one of the jobs with a different weapons manufacturer, and she's helping design a new missile launch pad that fires new experimental missiles. She can't tell me much about it, but she said that the video she saw of the missiles this thing shoots are small enough to be put onto a Hummer & can take out almost 1/3 of a MILE DIAMETER using a newly developed conventional explosive compound. SOME SWEET STUFF will be implemented into the US Military about the yr 2004! Hope you troops will like having that kind of power on a hummer & other tools/toys engineers and programmers are making for you! Have a nice day. |
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Posted: 6/14/2001 9:28:58 PM EDT
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Shortly after the Navy crewmen were held hostage by the Chinese, the Assistant secretary of the Army issued a directive that no soldiers will be authorized to wear a beret made in China or made with Chinese content, I'll scan the directive tomorrow and post it( if someone shows me how to post pics here), or if you are really interested, I can fax it to you.
Ed |
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Posted: 6/14/2001 9:49:09 PM EDT
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Mostof the new black berets (on non-rangers, it makes me SICK to even think about it) are going to be madein Cabot, ARK.
ronnie |
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Posted: 6/14/2001 11:03:10 PM EDT
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But those black berets will look totally sweet with the next Shinseki regulation - the
All Army Kilt. [red]PRK |
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Posted: 6/15/2001 5:00:13 AM EDT
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When do I get my cool "Black Beret?" I'm not in the army but I figure since National Guard female truck drivers will be issued this elite headgear I might as well get one too.
It'll be awesome. I'll look like a cross between Monica Lewinski and Shaft. |
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Posted: 6/15/2001 6:21:00 AM EDT
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What's next, wings for flying a typewriter, jump boots for moping floors, e.o.d. badge for passing beans?
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Posted: 6/15/2001 6:44:17 AM EDT
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Supposedly, the china ones are to be sold as surplus
Saw the guys wearing em-every one looked different shaped/fold |
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