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Posted: 6/6/2001 7:02:35 AM EDT
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Hacking is not a crime, just as owning a gun is not. If they are stealing e-mail addies, you should know better than to use an addy w/ your real name attached to it.
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Posted: 6/6/2001 7:09:42 AM EDT
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Actually, hacking with malicious intent [b]is[/b] a crime... "Cyber Terrorism" is taken very seriously by the feds!
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Posted: 6/6/2001 7:10:54 AM EDT
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If that was my post, it was on gunsandammomag.com. A lady says she (and fellow educators) were watching that board for a month or so. And that we were barbarians and shouldnt own guns, let alone a computer. She went by the name of PETA PATTY and comes from (where else?) Beverly Hills. She thanked us for giving her the ammunition to defeat us! Can go there to view it. Its a slow basic board, with mostly new shooters...and its share of jerks too. She left what appears to be a good e-mail in her profile. No hacking that I know of...dont want to induce panic, just be aware, you never know whos watching.
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Posted: 6/6/2001 7:11:57 AM EDT
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This is true...but a true hacker will not intentionally destroy or steal. Their Primary intent is knowledge. A cyber terrorist is just that...a terrorist.
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Posted: 6/6/2001 7:12:18 AM EDT
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Quoted: Hacking is not a crime, just as owning a gun is not. If they are stealing e-mail addies, you should know better than to use an addy w/ your real name attached to it. So long as I didn't get caught, it wouldn't be a crime for me to personally break their legs either, would it?? But I digress, if anyone uses my e-mail address against me and I find out who it is, they better never come outside again! I REALLY wish AK47.net hadn't died - it was such a big rock for all of them to crawl out from under. |
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Posted: 6/6/2001 7:14:43 AM EDT
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So that's the cause of it!
An old friend of mine recently received an Email from me, that I didn't send. It contained bits of work related correspondence and gibberish. |
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Posted: 6/6/2001 7:18:45 AM EDT
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I was having withdrawls again this morning and last night.[BD]
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Posted: 6/6/2001 7:21:28 AM EDT
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Gus,
Allow me to digress. I'm not saying that snybody who is doing that doesn't deserve to have their legs and other appendages broken. But, hacking a website is not a crime. To put it frankly, what we know as "hacking" has very little to do with what the term really referred to originally. The term "hack writer" came about in the 1920's, referring to a writer who would sit down at his typewriter and "hack" out a novel, not getting up from his chair untill finished. It was later applied to computer dorks who would hack at a program for hours on end untill they figured out how to make the program they were writing work (this was before the days of published programming guides/languages). |
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Posted: 6/6/2001 7:34:27 AM EDT
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Yeah, I know what a hacker is, but I'm still pissed!!!! I hope McUZI can reign in all the trolls his site attracted. Reading that one guy's post about him and his buddies hacking AR15.com made my blood boil. It's a good thing there is distance between us!!
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Posted: 6/6/2001 7:40:00 AM EDT
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My appology, I misunderstood your point of view and point of aggression.
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Posted: 6/6/2001 7:40:09 AM EDT
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As someone with a background in this, hacking is simply the uninvited entry into someone else's system or the unlawful takeover of anothers resources. (Basically, me "F"ing with you to get into your system or to take it down.)
Both of these ARE illegal and a serious crime. Many times small infractions are ignored, but lately they have been slapping sentences on everyone. (I know I have had 6 friends either fined or jailed within the past 2 years.) DOS attacks however are dealt with VERY seriously and the sentences are getting worse and worse. This of course pales when compared to viruses which lead to a 40+ year sentence. All I know is that I'm here to enjoy things, when that stops I am not going to get vengeful, I will just go elsewhere. -- GB |
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Posted: 6/6/2001 7:45:38 AM EDT
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I disagree with your definition Goat Boy, but that's not the point. You are very correct about the ridiculous punishments that are being slapped out. Remind you of any gun laws/punishments?
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Posted: 6/6/2001 9:29:41 AM EDT
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Quoted: Actually, hacking with malicious intent [b]is[/b] a crime... "Cyber Terrorism" is taken very seriously by the feds! Actually... It is NOT taken seriously by federal authorities. It should be, but it isn't due to lack of manpower and resources. Unfortunately, very rarely, if ever, are the culprits caught and/or punished. If you want to read a great primer on DOS attacks, see the following: [url]media.grc.com:8080/files/grcdos.pdf[/url] |
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Posted: 6/6/2001 9:32:21 AM EDT
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Quoted: We're not being hacked are we? I noted a confession from another web page that we were indeed being hacked and the list of e-mail addresses in the profiles was a target. If it's not too much trouble, please let me know when and if we find out exactly who is behind this so I can hunt them down and execute them! The offender was banned and the posts were deleted. People may have differing opinions about content, but there is NO EXCUSE to post any type of threats, etc... Bottom Line: Regardless of disagreements, We ARE ALL GUN OWNERS and should stick together ! |
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Posted: 6/6/2001 9:50:59 AM EDT
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Quoted: I hope McUZI can reign in all the trolls his site attracted. Reading that one guy's post about him and his buddies hacking AR15.com made my blood boil. It's a good thing there is distance between us!! Believe it or not, that is about the ONLY stuff that gets censored at [url]www.McUzi.com[/url]. It is childish and petty behavior. I assure you that it will NOT be tolerated. I really wish they would focus their energies and hatred toward the "ANTI GUNNERS" [}:D] |
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Posted: 6/6/2001 11:32:04 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I hope McUZI can reign in all the trolls his site attracted. Reading that one guy's post about him and his buddies hacking AR15.com made my blood boil. It's a good thing there is distance between us!! Believe it or not, that is about the ONLY stuff that gets censored at [url]www.McUzi.com[/url]. It is childish and petty behavior. I assure you that it will NOT be tolerated. I really wish they would focus their energies and hatred toward the "ANTI GUNNERS" [}:D] Thanks dude - I noticed it was gone when I went back looking. People like that don't seem to realize that there are a few net-savvy LEO's and investigators on the board. Had it continued (or if it does) I would think we could ID the punk. From there it's just a matter of who's closest geographically..... I really did just want to twist his head off though.... |
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