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Posted: 9/26/2004 8:06:19 PM EDT
I just wanted to pass on this to you fellas. I don't claim to know the origin or authenticity but I'm not addicted to te bucks and don't plan on ever giving them my hard earned U.S. dollars.
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What is this Starbucks of which you speak? Do they sell things a reasonable person might find useful?
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not sure if this was true...
could be people are pissed off about the 9/11/130 dollar water thing and made this up. smells bad to me. |
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The people that work there would say that, I doubt the people that own it would.
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/starbucks.asp
Claim: Starbucks refused free product to G.I.s serving in Iraq. Status: Undetermined. Given what we can determine of Starbucks' corporate giving policy and its attitude towards those who serve in the armed forces, we suspect the rumor will ultimately prove to be somewhat true in one aspect but false in another. Regarding the claim that java giant Starbucks turned down Marines serving in Iraq who were looking for coffee from home, such a refusal would be well in keeping with the corporation's donations policy, in that Starbucks chooses to direct its charitable resources within the communities where its stores reside and limits its funding to non-profit organizations. Moreover, it does not consider requests for funding that come from political or religious organizations or which would fund political or religious initiatives or programs. Therefore, according to the guidelines currently in place, a request for coffee from soldiers serving overseas would be turned down. However, the claim that in its refusal Starbucks would have said "they don't support the War and anyone in it" almost certainly has to be false, in light of what various news accounts show us about the coffee retailer's attitude towards those who serve in the armed forces. In addition to what Starbucks itself says above of its beneficences to soldiers, we know from different newspaper articles of other instances of glad-hearted support. In July 2004, a Starbucks in Cincinnati was reported to have been practically overflowing with people making yellow ribbons in support of Keith "Matt" Maupin, a soldier whose fate was then uncertain (it has subsequently been reported that he had been beheaded by his captors), along with red, white, and blue ones to show support for American troops in Iraq. In June 2004 in Cleveland, when the mother of one serviceman called her local Starbucks to arrange for the shipping of some java to her son, the employees at that store insisted on paying for 30 pounds of coffee as their gift. Regarding another of the claims made in the e-mail, while it is true someone working at a New York City Starbucks did indeed charge ambulance workers $130 for three cases of water on September 11, 2001, it would not be quite fair to say Starbucks did this. However, act of a single, misguided employee or not, the corporation alone bears responsibility for afterwards spurning a number of opportunities to offer the rescue workers their money back or apologize to them — though it finally took both those actions, it did so only after the story attracted online and print media attention. In addition to the "rescue workers charged for water" and the "spurned servicemen" story that is the focus of this piece, Starbucks has been the butt of a number of other unsavory rumors and mistaken beliefs just in the past few years, including: * A 2002 poster promoting two new iced drinks prompted some consumers to see in it reminders of the hijacked planes hitting the twin towers. * In 2001, a false story spread in e-mail about the wife of the owner of a Thailand Starbucks telling non-white customers the coffee shop was not for Asians. * The company's 2003 termination of its business interests in Israel caused some to believe Starbucks had abandoned that nation in favor of being able to continue to do business in Arab countries. * In 2002, a prankster who scanned and distributed online a coupon entitling the bearer to a free Crème Frappuccino caused any amount of bad feeling to be directed at the company — those duped into believing they were entitled to free product were often angry at the stores who refused to honor the fake coupons rather than with the unnamed person who had deceived them. Starbucks, like any other successful corporation that has a strong public presence, is fated to operate with the Damocles sword of public opinion hanging above its head. No corporation can fund everyone who comes to it looking for assistance, which means some deserving groups will always be refused. In less emotionally-charged times, the logic of such a policy is better understood, but the current climate makes it a dicey PR proposition at best to say no to anything having to do with soldiers. |
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I have never seen a Starbucks in Ohio. They are concentrated in certain areas. Come to think of it, I don't ever remember seeing a Starbucks.
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F#ck starbuck's. If I want to go to a coffee house, I go to a locally-owned one, so I spend my money with people who live where I live. Ditto for hardware, guns & ammo (+90% of the time), clothes, shoes, et c., et c.
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I don't drink Starbuck because it tastes like burnt coffee to me, but I can't believe that' true.
I call BS. |
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I know a Starbucks PR
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Its on the internet so it must be true....
Coffee Rumor Snopes Dear Readers, Almost 5 months ago I sent an e-mail to you my faithful friends. I did a wrong thing that needs to be cleared up. I heard by word of mouth about how Starbucks said they didn't support the war and all. I was having enough of that kind of talk and didn't do my research properly like I should have. This is not true. Starbucks supports men and women in uniform. They have personally contacted me and I have been sent many copies of their company's policy on this issue. So I apologize for this quick and wrong letter that I sent out to you. Now I ask that you all pass this email around to everyone you passed the last one to. Thank you very much for understanding about this. Howard C. Wright Sgt USMC 1st Force Rcon Co 1st Plt PLT RTO |
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The hated forwarded email. Do these things EVER turn out to be true?
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Their coffee tastes like shit, fucking instant coffee tastes better.
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I feel creepy just going in there. Like I'm not set up for this type of crowd. The crowd in there is definitely not my cup of tea(pun intended).
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I call BS. I can't see them sending off a letter like that. I don't like starbucks myself, it's overpriced liberal coffee. They got $8.50 from me for two large coffees about seven years ago and I never stepped foot in there again.
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Dunkin Donut coffee is much better. Just cream and sugar none of that fancy euro shit. Good old lard with that coffee too.
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I hate coffee anyways and don't drink it, plus on the other hand you know they are supporting Skerry also, but thats a given you think.
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Thats funny, my local starbucks gives me all kinds of free coffee, and asks me to hang out there open carrying late at nite.
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Starbucks for some reason gives me the shits. I like "Coffee Bean or Deitrich's better"
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I have also heard that a NYC Starbucks refused to serve water to FDNY and NYPD on Sept. 11, 2001 without them paying $1 for it. I was never able to confirm this, but I did hear about it the same week of the attacks. I have throughly boycotted them ever since!
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I'm going to send a letter to Dodge, telling them how much I love their trucks.. maybe they'll give me one
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Please explain your avatar. It is fucking cool. |
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Maybe we should all email COLT going on about how great their rifles are and how they should give them to us 'regular' people for free so they can continue to sell to just .gov and .mil |
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All of us at Camp Doha in Kuwait certainly enjoyed the Starbucks we had there, although it was definitely more expensive than back here in the States. It was still nice to get a Frappachino and have a little taste of home in the desert.
This definitely sounds like someone spreading a rumor - I can certainly see them declining to send free coffee to a bunch of guys in Iraq that wrote them asking for freebees. We got lots of free stuff over there - phone cards, cookies, Christmas cards, etc - but there's a difference between people donating that, and servicemen actually writing and asking for free stuff. I think sometimes guys think that because one person or company donated a bunch of stuff for the troops, everyone must be willing to do that. I really appreciate the stuff that people sent us while I was over there, but I don't like the idea of actually asking someone for free stuff. Just my opinion... Dave |
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Thank You for the info. |
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Their coffee sucks ass anyway. Burger King has MUCh better coffee.
S.O. |
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Starbucks wrote back telling the Marines thanks for their support in their business, but that they don't support the War and anyone in it and that they won't send them the Coffee. That is why I .love this country -- you can have a different opinion -- and not be lined up against a wall and shot or beheaded by a bunch of goons. |
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+1 I haven't paid for a damn thing at a Starby's in three years. |
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The hated forwarded email. Do these things EVER turn out to be true?
sure they do! i just got my $42 million from nigeria! woohoo! |
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You got $42 million? Bastards only gave me $15 million! |
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Most companies love the free and positive press/publicity/advertisement when a soldier gets some their freebies. The troops write home saying how awesome a company is for sending them free stuff and before you know it word of mouth has gotten them a few more buyers of their product because of their "support the troops" policy. I think there is usually a better response when it's the family members writing the company asking for freebies to include in a care package to their husbands in Iraq. It worked well for the FSG in my unit when we were in the Stan. Also... on Starbucks response. I was going to say the same thing about Kuwait because my wife was having Starbucks down range when she went. So if they don't support the war they sure have a funny way of showing it by opening up shop in a combat zone. |
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+1 Drinking homemade DD as I type. |
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Well last time I checked, business aren't owned by the government and charged with providing FREE product to the Citizens. Some people need to read Atlas Shrugged |
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-1 on nasty Starbucks coffee.
+1 on good Dunkin' Donuts coffee and Einstein's Bros coffee. -1 liberal panty-waisted limp-wristed overpriced coffee shops chains based in the PNW that put good mom and pop shops out of business. Piss on 'em. |
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During 9/11/01 WTC/Pentagon attacks, the local Starbucks charged the NY fireman for the bottled water for the burn victims. They later looked real bad in the eyes of the public, so they gave away a lot of coffee for free for people working at the WTC, and the CEO claimed they reimbursed the fireman for the costs of the water. Gives a new meaning to the saying "a day late, and a dollar short."
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I don't hold a whole corporation responsible for the actions of one assclown employee in a situation that probably wasn't covered in their training manual. "In the event of a national emergency, hand out free stuff to emergency workers." Anyone follow up to see if the manager of that store was scolded or terminated (probably unlikely) for this incident? I didn't think so... Dave |
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Sounds like an urban legend but Starbucks over-roast their beans anyways, so too bad for them. I buy elsewhere.
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On a side note... I don't drink coffee... although I have had a frappacino from the Bucks a couple times when I was in FL and it spun me up like a freakin amusement park ride... The did have the best dernded marble cake I've had in ages though.
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I still like Frappuchinos.
I find it hard to believe that ye olde corporate PR department would ever allow a statement such as 'We don't support the war and anyone in it'. For regular coffee, DD is hard to beat, and also less then 100 yards away from the house. |
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got my reply from Starbucks..
Dear Mr. Sixguns, Thank you for taking the time to contact Starbucks regarding coffee donations to those serving in our armed forces. Starbucks has the deepest respect and admiration for U.S. military personnel. We are extremely grateful to the men and women who serve stateside or overseas. We sincerely appreciate that they are willing to risk their lives to protect Americans and our values of freedom and democracy. While Starbucks as a company cannot directly donate to military personnel, many of our partners (employees) show their support by donating coffee. Recently, there was an e-mail circulating the internet that contained misinformation about Starbucks and our support of the military. Starbucks was able to locate the author who turned out to be a Marine Sergeant. He was very grateful that we contacted him and apologized for any misunderstanding, as he did not intend to spread the rumor. He subsequently sent an e-mail to his original distribution list correcting his mistake, which I've included at the end of this letter. I would like to take this opportunity to clarify Starbucks policy regarding charitable contributions. We are able to donate to nonprofit organizations that are designated as public charities under Section 501(c) (3) of the IRS Code, including public libraries and schools. The U.S. military or individual military personnel do not qualify as a public charity. Additionally confirmation that this is a rumor can be found at http://www.boycottwatch.org/misc/starbucks2.htm. However, on an individual level, many Starbucks partners have collected and shipped numerous pounds of Starbucks coffee overseas. Starbucks partners receive one pound of free coffee each week as an employee benefit (known as "partner mark-out"). Many of our partners have elected to send their weekly mark-out of coffee to members of the military or military families, and related organizations. As an example of this generosity, our partners in our Atascadero, California store sent their weekly mark out coffee to troops in Afghanistan so they are able to enjoy a little piece of home. Our customer relations department in Seattle donated hundreds of pounds of coffee to the sailors in the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier group. These are just a few examples of our partners supporting the troops. We recognize and appreciate the very personal connection that customers have with us and how they might miss their Starbucks Experience while overseas. Thank you again for writing and ask you to accept our deepest appreciation to servicemen and women and hope you remain a valued Starbucks customer. If you have any additional feedback or would like to discuss this further, please feel free to contact us at (800) 235-2883 or email us at [email protected]. Sincerely, Jason Wilcox Starbucks Coffee Company Text of Sgt. Wright's Email: Dear Readers, Almost 5 months ago I sent an e-mail to you my faithful friends. I did a wrong thing that needs to be cleared up. I heard by word of mouth about how Starbucks said they didn't support the war and all. I was having enough of that kind of talk and didn't do my research properly like I should have. This is not true. Starbucks supports men and women in uniform. They have personally contacted me and I have been sent many copies of their company's policy on this issue. So I apologize for this quick and wrong letter that I sent out to you. Now I ask that you all pass this email around to everyone you passed the last one to. Thank you very much for understanding about this. Howard C. Wright Sgt USMC 1st Force Rcon Co 1st Plt PLT RTO |
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How is old Camp Doha? Man I hated that place no one to kill when you get there and when you leave from there you want to kill the crying wimps who talk about how hard they have there. Well I'll be back there in a few months maybe I'll see you there. |
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My late Grandmother did that once. She got a nicely worded letter back that basicly said, "Nice try, but NO!" Vulcan94 |
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Not true...but Starbucks still sucks. Trust me, the company is run by libs.
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Yes, Ive heard both of these stories, Starbucks was asked for water during 9/11 and they refused to give it freely. I no longer support them.
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This is Bullshit and nothing else.
One of my troops is a Starbucks manager. and a Guardsman. On 9/12/2001 we mobilized him along with all of our guardsmen after our country was attacked. Starbucks had never had an employee mobilized before. They were completely ignorant of the laws regarding the call-up, but yet supported him 100%. BTW he's still on active duty voluntarily serving his country today and doesn't have to worry if he'll have a job when he returns. They also fully supported him once the mandatory call up period was over and he decided to stay on. They didn't have to. Where do you really think this crap comes from? Think about it. |
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