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Posted: 8/19/2004 3:59:53 AM EDT
Okay, some of you know that I am a sitting GOP central committeeman for my precinct here in Ohio. Some of you also know that I am not the biggest fan of GWB or the administration, but have since RELUCTANTLY started to support him in lieu of Scary Kerry.
In preparation for the GOP Convention, I have learned some interesting things about GWB. In the winter of 1971, GWB was dating a woman named Robin Lowman. Miss Lowman became pregnant and an abortion was arranged. (which in 1971 was illegal). My unnamed source is a friend of Lowmans, and the girlfriend of the man who arranged the abortion. His name is Robert Carl Chandler. Chandler is a Bush friend and supported from way back. The abortion was at Twelve Oaks Hospital in Houston Texas. (now Bayou City Medical Center) The source overheard the call by Chandler to arrange the abortion. She visited Lowman in the hospital after the procedure. The source was afraid of coming forward because she was threatened by Chandler and Bush friend Jim Bath. (buddy in the guard) Bath has long standing intelligence connections. By all accounts, this is as accurate as can be...... an illegal, backroom abortion arranged by the Republican party presidential candidate - running on pro life ticket !! This ought to get some panties in a wad.... |
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I have an unnamed source that says BenDover is a transvestite drug user.
Gee this is fun. |
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sigh
The press and the democrats have been digging into GWB past for how long now? But some how this got missed? Tons of this kind of BS is going to come out between now and November |
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I have an unnamed source that has PROOF that I have not seen yet that Kerry and Edwards do each other, while giving reach arounds and sucking on bananas at the same time. |
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Next thing we'll find out is that Laura Bush was a crack ho and stripper in her youth... That was illegal, too... |
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real possible, I have an aunt that did the same thing around that time.
I can't stand kerry or bush, and it makes me sick to know that one of them will end up in the whitehouse. What has our country become when persons can run for president, yet they would have failed a simple background check for a top secret security clearance. At least when I was in..... |
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Bullshiite!
Everyone in Texas has heard that lame-azzed story ages ago...and promptly dismissed it! When the Houston Chronicle looked into the story, they couldn't confirm any of the facts that should have been able to have been verified. If this is the best that the Kerry operatives can offer...it will be a bust! But let's get this lying story out and killed off as soon as possible! I guess this is their payback for the 'swift boat team' debacle they are facing. Eric The(WellSeasoned)Hun |
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Yup. Those "unnamed sources" are REAL handy for low lifes to smear other people. _______________________ Come on, BenDover - this is disgutingly beneath you. YOu just dropped to the same level as the NYT in my opinion. Have the moral integrity to JUST NOT LIKE Bush if that's what you want to do. (frankly I don't "like" him much either) But to FEIGN support here, and smear the man ala James Car-vile is cheap, disgusting and scurrilous. I call BS, and you a liar. There....that should get BenDovers (appropriately named) panties in a wad..... |
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Backroom...hospital. Sure. |
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Shows me what I awalys knew Ben ---
both men that are up for the job in Nov. are turds.............. God help us. |
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You ARE a Dumbocrat. ONLY a Dumbocrat could base their vote on the highly suspicious word of an "unnamed source." See, I have an unnamed source that says you are a Marxist, guilty of racketeering in three countries.. Do you REALLY want to play that game??? Disgtusting. |
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I am supporting GWB.
That being said, I am not going to couch my distaste for him and the administration. He wants my vote? Then he gets to hear about his bullshit from me. Wait and see, this will probably break nationally within 30 days. |
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You're going to have to do better than scandal-via-unnamed-source. Nobody believes those anymore. Come back when you have something credible.
Oh, and I'm surprised nobody's posted one of these yet: |
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You have an awfully "Democratic" way of showing it. |
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How much did the kerry campaign pay you??? Prove they are NOT paying you. In fact, prove you are not a DU type Kerry campaign staffer. |
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Well Ben??? Are you going to give us "proof" that this is untrue? Or are we to "assume" that it must be true because you won't prove it wrong? |
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Oh, you bet yer arse I will be letting it fly as soon as I can.
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You already did, and it stinks in here. |
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You want to know the real source of this story?
That expletive-slurring wheelchair-bound jackanape, LARYY FLYNT! Here's an unaired excerpt of his discussion of that story back in 2000 on CNN's Crossfire: [ROBERT] NOVAK: Mr. Flynt, never let it be said that we censor any of our guests here on CROSSFIRE, and you said you wanted to talk about the election. Tell me what you wanted to say. FLYNT: Well, during the impeachment debacle, we did an investigation which resulted in the resignation of Bob Livingston and others and we have continued this investigation and for eight months we've been looking into George W. Bush's background. And we've found out in the early 1970s he was involved in an abortion in Texas, and I just think that it's sad that the mainstream media, who's aware of this story, won't ask him that question when they were able to ask him the drug question without any proof at all, and we've got all kinds of proof on this issue. NOVAK: Well, you're... FLYNT: You know, the guy admitted he was a drunk for 20 years, and if the abortion issue is true then that puts him lower on the morality scale than Bill Clinton. NOVAK: Mr. Flynt, you said if it's true and you have no proof of that. I gather you are a very strong... FLYNT: The hell we don't have proof. NOVAK: Sir, I gather you're a very strong Gore supporter. Is that correct? FLYNT: I'll vote for the lesser of the two evils. I don't like either one of them. [BILL] PRESS: All Right, Larry Flynt, a man who speaks his word, but we remind you they are Larry Flynt's words and not ours. Larry Flynt, thank you very, very much for joining us. This was followed by an online chat, in which Flynt went into greater detail: CNN - Mr. Flynt, I would like to know how you plan to protect yourself from a law suit by claiming to have the goods on GWBush. Flynt: Because we have them and the truth is an absolute defense. CNN; When and where are you going to publish information about George W. Bush? Flynt: When I said that we had the proof, I am referring to knowing who the girl was, knowing who the doctor was that pereformed the abortion, evidence from girlfriends of hers at the time, who knew about the romance and the subsequent abortion. The young lady does not want to go public, and without her willingness, we don't feel that we're on solid enough legal ground to go with the story, because should she say it never happened, then we've got a potential libel suit. But we know we have enough evidence that we believe completely. One of the things that interested us was that this abortion took place before Roe Vs. Wade in 1970, which made it a crime at the time. I'd just like the national media to ask him if abortion is okay for him and his family, but not for the rest of America. We're not looking at it as a big issue, we're looking at it as a situation of people not being told the truth. I think the American people have a right to know everything there is to know about someone running for President. - End of Article - OK, Ben Dover WTF are you doing posting a rehashed story from the 2000 Election Campaign as if it were new News? By the way in most stories, the girl was only 15 at the time of the alleged abortion! She couldn't have been, of course, for Ms. Lowman, now Mrs. Garner, was born in 1947, the year after President Bush. Cut this crap out! On ARFCOM, of all pleaces! Eric The(Miffed)Hun |
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What is the English translation of that phrase? It makes no sense to me, as written. Eric The(PolyglotButOnlyToAPoint)Hun |
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For the record,
BenDover has been a hard core Bush hater in this forum. Now he wants you new folks to beleive he's had a "change of heart" to a reluctant supporter of Bush. Yer not buyin' his little song and dance, right???? Nice try, BenDover. |
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Breaking News From Unnamed Sources
Deep undercover DU |
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Damn, was he in Vietnam??? |
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The very story that you regurgitated here today was hashed out FOUR YEARS AGO! Were you around FOUR YEARS AGO? It was a story back then, so didn't your local Republican Party County Chairmanship-ass know about it? You are a Stooge! Where is Moe when you really need him to slap soome sense into another Stooge? Eric The(Nyuck,Nyuck,Nyuck))Hun |
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... He has "Ben" for a couple years now |
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Post from BenDover -
Something really needs to be done about that! Does anyone know which County in Ohio that we are talking about here? Calls need to be made! This should be brought to someone's attention! Eric The(NotKiddingInTheLeast)Hun |
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Ben, in the runup to the 2000 campaign, this subject was dug into by the Bush-Hating press with great resolve to win that Pulitzer by destroying Bush's chances at the Presidency. It has been hanging around over at the DU and MoveOn for years. In spite of all the rabid attempts to make this issue stick, so far, no CREDIBLE evidence has surfaced to support the slanderous allegations made here.
Good luck though...Don Quixote! |
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Wow Ben new low for ya
Nothing has changed GWB could never have an abortion. So some chick he banged had one. |
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No sir your trying to muddy the water that is all ben has been a long time respected member of the board your trying to make him less now cause he ain't covering up facts like others here |
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right |
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"Unnamed sources" don't have "facts" as they CANNOT be verified. "Unnamed sources" only have smears. People who would spread such rumors yet want the cover of annonymity are the LOWEST form of life on this planet. IF you have something to say, say it loud and proud. Oddly, you took joy at their scurrilous behaviour. And revealed your charachter. Yeah, Ben has been around a long time. And been a hard core Bush hater. Now he wants to paly it like he's ahd a change of heart. Other long timers see his obfuscation. Newbies might not, unless someone called his BS. I just did, Deal with it. And proved you of the same stuff as "unnamed sources." |
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Yes, indeed, Ben Has Been has been a respected member for some time...and then things got a little hazy...and then a new and different fellow comes back on Board. But this story is as old as a 'hanging chad.' You really think that this is going anywhere? Only idiots would rely on something that Larry Flynt and only Larry Flynt has ever seriously promoted...or the Democrat National Committee. But I repeat myself! Eric The(Serious)Hun |
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Politics and the abortion issue................. make more people foes on this board than anything else.
gman ------------- your compulsion to front your man as a hero of the people is bizarre to say the least, I take heart that I know most here are not buying into it. We will see in November will we not....... |
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IF I vote for Bush (at this point it is likely I will) it will be done holding my nose. Sometimes in war, the victory you CAN achieve is more important than the victory you WANT to achieve. |
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I beg your pardon? 'Most here are not buying into' what? That this story is true or that it is not? Be clear and concise man! I am wasting valuable bandwidth on trying to make heads or tails out of your posts! Eric The(ClearAndConcisePosterBoy)Hun |
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All the Dems need now is for a disgruntled pro-lifer to take a piece of white tape, write "GWB Jr." on it with a red sharpie, and slap it on one of the jars of dead foetuses thay've got stacked up - AND THIS WHOLE ELECTION WILL BE DECIDED TOOT-SWEET!
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Let me make it clear garandman said it best = hold your nose and vote for Bush, why - because it needs to be, but still it galls me that so many gave so much in the history of our country and in 2004 these two yahoo's are are only choices. |
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IT BROKE YEARS AGO! THE LIBERAL HOUSTON PAPER THAT TRIED TO VERIFY IT COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING! There, in big bold type so you can't miss it. Ben, you're acting like a tool and a troll if you believe this horseshit. Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas... |
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Post from garandman:
Why holding your nose? Thanks, but I will be as pleased as punch to vote for this fine American statesman! He is a Christian, and a very fine Christian at that! He talks the talk AND walks the walk. Sorry, but I find everyone's condescending attitude towards this fine man as rubbish, at best! Eric The(AstuteAsHeIsClever)Hun |
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Well, that MUST mean the president did it too... I've come to expect this sort of "logic" from you. |
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Shows me what I always knew too...you'll believe anything, as long as it's critical of President Bush. You're a sucker. |
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No, Ben, he doesn't. WE do. Lucky us.
The only thing breaking is your credibility. |
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I would love to see your "facts" hold up in a court of law let alone public opinion (moonbat lefties excluded) -boy. -boys facts: Larry Flynt has the names of the parties involved so it must be true.. No signed depositions No public admittance No hospital records of the visit The lefties have spent tens if not hudreds of thousands of dollars to make this stick for what..five years now? Maybe it's true, but you haven't convinced me with your "facts". Pretty damming if you ask me.. Sorry boys, I just callum as I see'um and Dover and Cy would be sporting Liberal Crybaby titles above thier avatar if I were in charge.. |
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Respected by whom? This type of crap is worthy of DU trolls, not 'respected memebers of the board.' Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas... |
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It seems to be your natural habitat. |
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