For those who think that their will be a cool "post AW Ban" version of the Cx4 Storm, think again.

First the Cx4 is made in Italy so it is subject to the importation "sporting requirements."

The LE model is identical to the civilian model, except that it ships with 2 restriced LE ONLY 15 round magazines. So a "cool features" LE model does not, and probably never will, exist.

Also got the chance to really take it to one of these guns. We put a 1,000 rounds of Winchester whitebox 115 gr. through one.

We dumped 10 (15 round) mags in rapid succession (total 150 rounds) with 0 failures of any kind. In fact we had 0 failures of any kind in all of the 1,000 rounds fired.

Despite the Uzi style sights it remained dramatically accurate. We had more than one 15 shot 1" groups at 15 yards (the limit of the indoor pistol range) using only iron sights, shoulder fired with no rest.

I had considered reversing the mag release to the right side for faster engagement with the trigger finger, but I discovered the standard location is not as hindering as I believed in actual practice. Magazine changes were a lot faster than I expected they could be.

The trigger break was as bad as any other plastic trigger gun out there. Somehow it did not seem to impact accuracy as much as I believed it would.

See here for first evalutation:

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=214441&page=1

Not sure that would work given the angle.

However with 30 round 92FS mags they are pretty comfortable.

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Accessory rails won't be available until early 2004 and yes they are add on.

Really the Cx4 wasn't suppossed to be available until early 2004, according to Beretta, but it seems some trickled onto the market.

I got over 100 30 round mags a few days ago but they were all spoken for before they even arrived. Same story with the Cx4, I just can't get them in fast enough. When they arrive they are already sold.

I have another 250 30 round mags due in the next couple weeks but many are already sold. If anyone wants one they are $30.00 + s/h.

Definitely aftermarket. Don't believe they are asian though. More than likely a US knockoff.

I don't think Beretta ever made factory 30s. I know there are factory 20s made for the Beretta 93R (a full auto 92) but last time I saw those they were about $150 each and they are scarce.


Editted to add, they are preban. Beretta doesn't offer a 30 round LE mag that I've seen.

The ones I'm getting are new. The quality is 'aftermarket' to be sure. I haven't got a chance to really check them out performance wise. I'm gonna try and hit the range with a few 30s next week.