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Posted: 4/23/2001 8:49:20 AM EDT
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From what I've seen on news reports. A single shot shotgun and a marlin .22 would qualify as an arsenal. I think 12 or more of total guns would qualify as an arsenal. IMO.
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Posted: 4/23/2001 8:58:09 AM EDT
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Go to Steyer Aug's house.If you want to see a smaller one come to my house.Mostly it is in the minds of the sheep that fear us.
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Posted: 4/23/2001 9:06:19 AM EDT
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Liberal Definition;
Two or more firearms and 20 rds of ammunition in one location. Ammo does not necessarily have to be for use with any weapon located within the 'arsenal'. |
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Posted: 4/23/2001 9:30:09 AM EDT
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Quoted: If so, I've got a ways to go before I'm where I wanta' be. me too and I hope I beat you too it also!! [:)] c-rock [url]www.illinois-shooter.org |
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Posted: 4/23/2001 9:53:38 AM EDT
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The media always misuses various catch phrases. They vilify words like "cult", "militia", and "arsenal". Christianity began as a cult, as do all religions. Cult = a small group of devout worshipers. Militia means a non-professional citizen army, basically every able bodied person that is not in the Armed forces.
Look up arsenal in the dictionary. The word just means a factory where guns are made. Unless you have a mill, lathe and forging equipment, all you have is a gun collection. My Websters: Arsenal n. factory for military and naval arms and stores. see armory Armory n. place where arms are stored; building for headquarters and drill area of National Guard unit; see arsenal (Arch) science of heraldry |
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Posted: 4/23/2001 9:55:32 AM EDT
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Dictionary definition is a collection of guns, so that means 2 or more.
To my knowledge, there is no legal definition, but with 26,000 plus gun laws, I wouldn't bet against it. Websters: Main Entry: ar·se·nal Pronunciation: 'ärs-n&l, 'är-s&n-&l Function: noun Etymology: Italian arsenale, ultimately from Arabic dAr sinA`ah house of manufacture Date: 1555 1 a : an establishment for the manufacture or storage of arms and military equipment [b]b : a collection of weapons[/b] 2 : STORE, REPERTORY |
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Posted: 4/23/2001 11:30:04 AM EDT
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According to Sarah Brady it's a cap gun and a couple boxes of caps, stored in a cigar box,together with some baseball cards and some bubble gum!!!
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Posted: 4/23/2001 12:03:37 PM EDT
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Damn! You guys beat me to it! I was gonna say:
By our standards: SteyrAUG's collection (about 100 firearms) By liberal standards: Imrog|io's collection. (a .22 rifle and 38 special) [:D] |
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Posted: 4/23/2001 6:58:13 PM EDT
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Schumer wants to make illegal storage of more than 1000 rounds in one home.
Hell, I never let mine fall below 1000 rounds per calibre. |
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Posted: 4/23/2001 7:01:00 PM EDT
[#10]
Good pointe.
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Posted: 4/23/2001 7:07:43 PM EDT
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What's next? A ban on BIG TITS?
It's time for these numbskulls to be voted out of office at the next available opportunity. |
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Posted: 4/23/2001 7:09:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: Some one told me (actually my son) that an arsenal is, by proper definition, 12 guns (rifles, pistols, etc) of the SAME caliber. Does anyone know if this is true? If so, I've got a ways to go before I'm where I wanta' be. So,if I'm reading your post correctly 11 AR15's, 11 AK47's, 11 M1A's, 11 45ACP's 11 9MM's, ETC would not constitute an arsenal? |
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Posted: 4/23/2001 7:46:42 PM EDT
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"What's next? A ban on BIG TITS?"
They ban those, and the gov.org can kiss it's ass goodbye!! Can you think of anything that would make a couch potato into a rebel more than that!?!?!? |
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Posted: 4/23/2001 7:56:18 PM EDT
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Quoted: What's next? A ban on BIG TITS? It's time for these numbskulls to be voted out of office at the next available opportunity. DUDE SHUT UP! DON'T GIVE THEM ANY IDEAS! |
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Posted: 4/23/2001 8:07:05 PM EDT
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Well, from our standpoint, I guess a couple too many cartons of Camels is an arsenal... Eh Sarah???
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Posted: 4/24/2001 12:33:37 AM EDT
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Q.[blue]What makes up an Arsenal? [/blue]
A. A news editor or reporter. [red][size=4]P.R.K. |
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Posted: 4/24/2001 4:19:43 AM EDT
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Any firearm and a copy of Unintended Consequences.
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Posted: 4/24/2001 4:24:08 AM EDT
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Apparently anything that fires a projectile!...so the bag of rubber bands and box of paper clips in the desk must fall in with the old s/s shotgun and bolt 22?????...[rocket].......BUT...are they "assault"weapons?.....[uzi]
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Posted: 4/25/2001 4:37:12 AM EDT
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No one knows, huh?
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Posted: 4/25/2001 5:03:24 AM EDT
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An arsenal,to me,would be made up of all the same weapons,whereas a collection would be mostly differant ones? How many? The same amount of rain drops to make a storm. How many stamps does it take to make a collection? When asked ,"why do you need so many guns?" my standard reply is ,"why do you need so many golf sticks?" ( I know they are clubs ) I can act as ignorant about their sport as they really are about mine.
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Posted: 4/25/2001 5:32:10 AM EDT
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Arsenal: 1. A governmental establishment for the storing , manufacturing,or repairing or war material, as arms and ammuntion 2. a stock of wepons 3. a store or supply (as in he had an arsenal of material for use in his journalism class)
Christianity cannot be defined as a cult as one cannot be obsessive about worshiping the one true God and His Son Jesus Christ one can only "under worship".funny how that Chistian bias manages to sneak in to even the most innocent of posts |
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Posted: 4/25/2001 8:12:01 AM EDT
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I'll let it go after this, but what I should have asked is what is the "legal" definition of an Arsenal. I know what the dictionary says.
When the law says you have an arsenal and you say "no I don't" where is the legal definition? There has to be one. It would be nice for all of on this board to know that answer. |
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Posted: 4/25/2001 8:31:11 AM EDT
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According to Brady, Feinstein and Schumer (et al.) I imagine their legal definition of an 'arsenal' would go something like this:
[b]Arsenal:[/b] A collection* or accumulation of any device(s) designed, modified or adapted to propel or otherwise direct any type of projectile or material from the device through the direct or indirect conversion of potential energy to kinetic energy, regardless of the means utilized to achieve the conversion. *one or more For the more astute in the reading audience, this would encompass everything from peashooters to particle beam weapons, and I doubt that Feinstein et al. would be satisfied with anything less than this. The abbreviated version of this definition would be "anything liberals want it to mean". |
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Posted: 4/25/2001 8:55:05 AM EDT
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Legal definition = just to get ya. In ohio a gun that can fire more than 31 rounds without reloading is classified as a machine gun. Boy,the morons had to reach for that one!
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Posted: 4/25/2001 9:04:16 AM EDT
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I heard once that the legal definition of arsenal in some area somewhere is 20. There may be some sort of localized legal definition, rather than a BATF definition, and that may cause the confusion.
My wife refers to my collection as an arsenal, but by that token, she has more collectible knives than I have guns AND ammo cans! I just hope that I don't end up like JW Bobbit! OUCH! |
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Posted: 4/25/2001 9:11:39 AM EDT
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Quoted: Legal definition = just to get ya. In ohio a gun that can fire more than 31 rounds without reloading is classified as a machine gun. Boy,the morons had to reach for that one! Damn. I guess if I want to use my 40rd mag, I have to regester my AR as a class III then, huh? |
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Posted: 4/25/2001 11:47:49 PM EDT
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Quoted: I'll let it go after this, but what I should have asked is what is the "legal" definition of an Arsenal. I know what the dictionary says. [b]When the law says you have an arsenal[/b] and you say "no I don't" where is the legal definition? There has to be one. It would be nice for all of on this board to know that answer. "When the law says you have an arsenal and you say 'no I don't' "[blue] What law, specifically?[/blue] Well Reddog6, if you aren't satisfied with our thoughts, think about this: You ask for a definition. But you don't refer to any specific laws that would make it illegal to [b]have[/b] an arsenal. So without that context, having such a definition is no help in determining if a criminal violation has occurred. I'm not aware of any existing prohibition on an 'arsenal'. But there are, what , over 30,000 different firearms laws across the country? Anyway, if you come up with the statutory prohibition, the definition can't be far away. Regards, [red][size=4] P.R.K. |
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Posted: 4/26/2001 12:18:35 AM EDT
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Black's Law Dictionary does not list the word "Arsenal".
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Posted: 4/26/2001 11:15:04 AM EDT
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reminds me when i was in so PR kAlifornia and my dad had to sign a form for buying a brick of 22's depepends on the area some call it over 50 rounds
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