The ATF can HAVE my EP Lower

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Posted: 3/16/2014 3:31:45 PM EDT

Lasted exactly TWO, yes TWO rounds before this happened.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:32:35 PM EDT

[#1]

well. Guess im not in the market for one anymore.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:32:43 PM EDT

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Lasted exactly TWO, yes TWO rounds before this happened.

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wooops...

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:32:49 PM EDT

[#3]

IMO the only good use of a polymer AR lower is for a 22 build.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:32:55 PM EDT

[#4]

Superglue it back together.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:33:18 PM EDT

[#5]

Built by glock.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:33:27 PM EDT

[#6]

It's kind of what happens when you make something out of plastic that was designed to be made with Aircraft Aluminum.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:33:39 PM EDT

[#7]

lol polymer

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:33:53 PM EDT

[#8]

oh snap!

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:33:57 PM EDT

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duct tape it

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:34:11 PM EDT

[#10]

Front fell off

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:34:15 PM EDT

[#11]

I hate it when the back falls off

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:34:50 PM EDT

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Posted: 3/16/2014 3:34:55 PM EDT

[#13]

The back fell off.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:34:56 PM EDT

[#14]

Yeah, I wouldn't have much use with a polymer lower, especially when 7075 aluminum lowers are so inexpensive.

Would be cool to see a company like EP lowers, use the same molding wrap around technique on an aluminum lower. Maybe they could start out the insert with a block of pot metal or tin or something.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:35:10 PM EDT

[#15]

Thats why I stay away from polymer lowers.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:36:46 PM EDT

[#16]

Dibs on stock?

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:37:07 PM EDT

[#17]

Chop it into 3 pieces and mail it to the SD ATF along with a
with a picture of your dog

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:38:08 PM EDT

[#18]

Had to look up what EP was...

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:38:20 PM EDT

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Yeah, I wouldn't have much use with a polymer lower, especially when 7075 aluminum lowers are so inexpensive.

Would be cool to see a company like EP lowers, use the same molding wrap around technique on an aluminum lower. Maybe they could start out the insert with a block of pot metal or tin or something.

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Except that whole "mold around" business is the reason they're under the gun from the atf.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:38:34 PM EDT

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Posted: 3/16/2014 3:38:44 PM EDT

[#21]

Im convinced you get what you pay for.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:38:59 PM EDT

[#22]

False flag by ATF to undermine Ares' supporters

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:39:02 PM EDT

[#23]

Mine wouldn't fit to my upper. Pin holes were in the wrong spots for the correct alignment. Then I couldn't get the milling to work with the dremmel, all I seemed to be able to do was melt plastic and redeposit it in other spots.

I can't believe all the fuss over these POS's. I mean, has anyone ever actually made one into a working lower?

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:39:03 PM EDT

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Posted: 3/16/2014 3:39:10 PM EDT

[#25]

Not all polymer lowers are created equal.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:39:12 PM EDT

[#26]

Out of curiosity could you take some photos of the fracture zone? I'm curious; the failure is about where you'd expect it to occur but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a void or something that probably aggravated the situation.

Also, any details about the firing conditions; temperature of the lower, round fired, quality of the fit of the upper to lower etc. would be interesting.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:39:16 PM EDT

[#27]

They are either good or bad. Smack the stock on the floor twice if it holds it will last.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:39:24 PM EDT

[#28]

Ghost-busters!!

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:40:46 PM EDT

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I lol'd

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:40:50 PM EDT

[#30]

The forums on EP's own website is full of broken lowers and complaints of misalligned holes. I've been shouting from the rooftops to anyone who will listen about what a crap product EP is.

ETA: Friend ordered 2 and they both were crap.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:40:57 PM EDT

[#31]

I don't think the shoulder thing is going to go up anymore.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:41:19 PM EDT

[#32]

Too bad Cav arms screwed the pooch, at least they could make polymer lowers without either end deciding to fall off.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:42:06 PM EDT

[#33]

Broke at the take down pin? Did it somehow get force applied to the top of the barrel?

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:42:07 PM EDT

[#34]

Well, what did you expect?

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:43:27 PM EDT

[#35]

So...6,000 sold and one (1) failure?

Guess I should have bought one.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:44:38 PM EDT

[#36]

Hmmm... how short of a pistol were you running? Thinking extra violent carrier was the issue here.

Eta: using arm brace as a stock could play into this.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:47:08 PM EDT

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The only reason that I would want one.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:47:19 PM EDT

[#38]

Plastic lowers are what , 50 bucks?

PSA has blemished lowers on sale for 59.99.

Cheap bastard.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:48:24 PM EDT

[#39]

This is why CAV Arms made the lower and stock as one piece.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:49:18 PM EDT

[#40]

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Out of curiosity could you take some photos of the fracture zone? I'm curious; the failure is about where you'd expect it to occur but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a void or something that probably aggravated the situation.

Also, any details about the firing conditions; temperature of the lower, round fired, quality of the fit of the upper to lower etc. would be interesting.

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Indoor Range (H&H Shooting Sports here in OKC), amb temp about 75deg. cold lower(never been fired), fit was a bit tight but i could still remove the pins easily.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:49:49 PM EDT

[#41]

Do you own a hot glue gun?

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:50:06 PM EDT

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Posted: 3/16/2014 3:51:00 PM EDT

[#43]

And people continue to buy plastic lowers to save a couple bucks.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:51:35 PM EDT

[#44]

7.5" with battlecomp 1.0 (not that the bc makes a diff)

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:51:41 PM EDT

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Posted: 3/16/2014 3:56:53 PM EDT

[#46]

H&H, I have shot there, nice place.
Sorry about your lower.

Posted: 3/16/2014 3:56:53 PM EDT

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The only reason that I would want one.

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IMO the only good use of a polymer AR lower is for a 22 build.

The only reason that I would want one.

Yep

Posted: 3/16/2014 4:11:42 PM EDT

[#48]

You guys don't get the concept. These polymer lowers aren't meant to actually be fired.

It's like the old joke: A barrel of anchovies was being traded back and forth from one Italian grocer to another. Finally one of them opens the barrel and finds that the anchovies are totally spoiled. He complains to the guy he got it from, and is told that "those anchovies are not for eating; they're for use instead of money. You have just made your 'money' worthless. You should have known better."

The polymer lowers are for display and for making people think you're "tacticool." They're not for actual use.

Therefore I don't get the idea of finishing an "80%" polymer lower into a working gun. Just leave it incomplete and use it for an inert display. Same difference.

Posted: 3/16/2014 4:14:06 PM EDT

[#49]

Why is there peanut butter in your ergo grip?

Posted: 3/16/2014 4:15:27 PM EDT

[#50]

The shoulder thing that goes up went up too much.

Damn.

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