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Posted: 1/16/2013 12:48:55 AM EDT
[#1]
Good idea! I'm hoping more states follow their leads.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 12:50:14 AM EDT
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please, nevada... please...
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Posted: 1/16/2013 12:51:23 AM EDT
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I've gotta get to work, will you guys keep this bumped for the morning crew?
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Posted: 1/16/2013 12:51:52 AM EDT
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I emailed my reps in my state. I emailed them the text of the Wyoming/Missouri bill.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 12:52:20 AM EDT
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Considering we just changed our Constitution in favor of the 2nd, I'm hoping we have something in the works too.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 12:52:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/16/2013 12:55:43 AM EDT
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Added, thanks! |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 12:56:34 AM EDT
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Considering we just changed our Constitution in favor of the 2nd, I'm hoping we have something in the works too. This |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 12:57:18 AM EDT
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Quoted: please, nevada... please... This. |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 12:58:43 AM EDT
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OK will probably be along shortly. |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 1:35:45 AM EDT
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Great idea. Thank goodness I'm moving soon to one of these states.
Not a state, but another story of a sheriff recommending refusal. Obviously, I'm sure the state legislature will comment at some point ... Oregon Sheriff |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 1:44:33 AM EDT
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The South will rise again!
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Posted: 1/16/2013 1:46:15 AM EDT
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MD is already on their knees trying to satisfy our overlords with a better gun control plan then NY. So, just put a big X over MD. It's already a done deal. They will never tell the fedgov to FO.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 1:46:22 AM EDT
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Hmm.... so far it's between WY and TN.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 1:46:54 AM EDT
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South Carolina:
http://www.schouse.gov/sess120_2013-2014/bills/224.htm |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 1:47:59 AM EDT
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the state legislature was pissed when govenor vetoed the conceal carry on school grounds bill. i imagine they will try to do something like this. i hope anyway |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 1:51:16 AM EDT
[#17]
Great post.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 2:07:30 AM EDT
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tag for later reading.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 2:23:43 AM EDT
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Who do you contact for support - the governor? The state attorney general?
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Posted: 1/16/2013 2:49:31 AM EDT
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Who do you contact for support - the governor? The state attorney general? You should have two reps at the state level, one for your state senate and one for your lower house, whatever its called in FL. I would start with them 
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Posted: 1/16/2013 2:58:25 AM EDT
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Can I suggest that you put an opposing color on the States that have legislation pending/passed for Gun Control?
NY - Passed MD - Pending This will create a scorecard of sorts. |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 2:58:47 AM EDT
[#22]
Great idea.
Tag. |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:09:17 AM EDT
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You guys have to read up on nullification. None of these laws will hold even a little water.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:11:27 AM EDT
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I wrote my reps in Fl but they're going to hear from me every week until this shit is resolved. Man I've written more to politicians this week than I've written in my entire life.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:14:19 AM EDT
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Damn bi-lib in AZ
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:15:49 AM EDT
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You guys have to read up on nullification. None of these laws will hold even a little water. I think the benefit of these laws will be that it'll get these unconstitutional executive orders scrutinized by courts. |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:15:54 AM EDT
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I wrote my reps in Fl but they're going to hear from me every week until this shit is resolved. Man I've written more to politicians this week than I've written in my entire life. That's great. Just make sure you're expending your effort on something that will matter. These laws will ceumble, the first time they are challenged in court. See Cooper v. Aaron. |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:15:59 AM EDT
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Utah! That's why I moved here from San Francisco when the city banned handgun ownership.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:16:00 AM EDT
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You guys have to read up on nullification. None of these laws will hold even a little water. I think you're missing the point. |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:18:55 AM EDT
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You guys have to read up on nullification. None of these laws will hold even a little water. While I completely agree that these are symbolic at least we can keep track of who is willing to stand up and be counted. At a minimum they are getting their voices heard and if enough voices get heard it could possibly affect change. |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:20:00 AM EDT
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I don't want to have to move from VA just yet.. but if they don't pass something to resist than I will use this map as my travel guide.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:20:54 AM EDT
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You guys have to read up on nullification. None of these laws will hold even a little water. I think the benefit of these laws will be that it'll get these unconstitutional executive orders scrutinized by courts. Perhaps, but it would be ineffective. In any court case on these laws, the ONLY issue considered would be whether the state law itself were Constitutional. They CLEARLY violate Article VI. You could argue that they don;t violate Article VI becuase they are directed at UNconstitutional laws, but the court will laugh at that, pointing to a MOUNTAIN of case history that says that determining the Constitutionality of a Federal law lay not with the states, bu with teh Federal courts. State law thrown out. MONTHS of wasted effort. It's ironic that so many want to fight Unconsitutional laws with, wait for it.... Unconstitutional laws. |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:22:24 AM EDT
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You guys have to read up on nullification. None of these laws will hold even a little water. While I completely agree that these are symbolic at least we can keep track of who is willing to stand up and be counted. At a minimum they are getting their voices heard and if enough voices get heard it could possibly affect change. We have enough REAL work to do. And it makes us look like folls when we try to fight UNconsitutional laws with Unconstitutional alws of our own. |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:23:51 AM EDT
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Florida needs to get their head out of their ass and get going on this.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:26:34 AM EDT
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And the .Fed will do what it always does.....hold federal funds for roads, housing and disaster relief.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:27:00 AM EDT
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I was worried mo was going to bend over and take it. Maybe I lost faith in my states politics to soon.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:31:27 AM EDT
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You can add Louisiana to the list.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:32:02 AM EDT
[#38]
One of the proposed TN laws states that no state or local funds can be used to enforced fed law. Nothing unconstitutional about that.
Perhaps, but it would be ineffective. In any court case on these laws, the ONLY issue considered would be whether the state law itself were Constitutional. They CLEARLY violate Article VI. You could argue that they don;t violate Article VI becuase they are directed at UNconstitutional laws, but the court will laugh at that, pointing to a MOUNTAIN of case history that says that determining the Constitutionality of a Federal law lay not with the states, bu with teh Federal courts. State law thrown out. MONTHS of wasted effort. It's ironic that so many want to fight Unconsitutional laws with, wait for it.... Unconstitutional laws. |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:38:27 AM EDT
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You guys have to read up on nullification. None of these laws will hold even a little water. While I completely agree that these are symbolic at least we can keep track of who is willing to stand up and be counted. At a minimum they are getting their voices heard and if enough voices get heard it could possibly affect change. We have enough REAL work to do. And it makes us look like folls when we try to fight UNconsitutional laws with Unconstitutional alws of our own. It's outrageously absurd that an UNconstitutional law needs to be fought at all. The opposing voice ought to be able to stand behind a microphone and fart for 20 seconds and still win that fight. The argument ought not require anything more than something similar to Joe Pesci's line in My Cousin Vinny, "everything that guy said is bullshit, thank you." |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:38:29 AM EDT
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the state legislature was pissed when govenor vetoed the conceal carry on school grounds bill. i imagine they will try to do something like this. i hope anyway I wouldn't hold out much hope for the MI legislature. IMO it has too many pussies/rinos/fencesitters and politicicians who say one thing and do another. MI needs to get rid of an over abundance of libtards from both sides of the isle at the Capitol and get someone like the curent AG to run for Gov. next time around. Snyder, the current Gov. gets a lot of bad advice/info about guns and the Second and buys it.  
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:54:07 AM EDT
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TN's ahead of the curve. In 2009 we passed a Firearms Freedom Act, exempting weapons made in-state from Federal regulation as long as they stayed inside the state. The ATF quickly sent out letters to FFL holders telling them to ignore that law. As far as I know, no one has pushed that issue.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:59:50 AM EDT
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You guys have to read up on nullification. None of these laws will hold even a little water. You should read up on events that lead up to the civil war. |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 4:28:45 AM EDT
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One of the proposed TN laws states that no state or local funds can be used to enforced fed law. Nothing unconstitutional about that. Perhaps, but it would be ineffective. In any court case on these laws, the ONLY issue considered would be whether the state law itself were Constitutional. They CLEARLY violate Article VI. You could argue that they don;t violate Article VI becuase they are directed at UNconstitutional laws, but the court will laugh at that, pointing to a MOUNTAIN of case history that says that determining the Constitutionality of a Federal law lay not with the states, bu with teh Federal courts. State law thrown out. MONTHS of wasted effort. It's ironic that so many want to fight Unconsitutional laws with, wait for it.... Unconstitutional laws. I'd agree, but what use is that? It doesn't prevent the Feds from doing a damned thing. |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 4:30:21 AM EDT
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You guys have to read up on nullification. None of these laws will hold even a little water. While I completely agree that these are symbolic at least we can keep track of who is willing to stand up and be counted. At a minimum they are getting their voices heard and if enough voices get heard it could possibly affect change. We have enough REAL work to do. And it makes us look like folls when we try to fight UNconsitutional laws with Unconstitutional alws of our own. It's outrageously absurd that an UNconstitutional law needs to be fought at all. The opposing voice ought to be able to stand behind a microphone and fart for 20 seconds and still win that fight. The argument ought not require anything more than something similar to Joe Pesci's line in My Cousin Vinny, "everything that guy said is bullshit, thank you." Maybe. But apparently there are some people who don;t agree with that opinion, And that's what courts are for. Make your argument in COURT and get the Court to agree with you and THEN you've done something constructive. This is meaningless chest thumping. |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 4:31:16 AM EDT
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C'mon North Carolina!
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Posted: 1/16/2013 4:31:34 AM EDT
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TN's ahead of the curve. In 2009 we passed a Firearms Freedom Act, exempting weapons made in-state from Federal regulation as long as they stayed inside the state. The ATF quickly sent out letters to FFL holders telling them to ignore that law. As far as I know, no one has pushed that issue. That's becuase the ATF would pull their FFL if they did. And then if they sold firearms, they could be subject to prosecution. And frankly, it would not end well for the dealer. |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 4:32:08 AM EDT
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You guys have to read up on nullification. None of these laws will hold even a little water. You should read up on events that lead up to the civil war. I have. How'd that work out by the way? If you're advocating violence, man up and say so. |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 4:32:43 AM EDT
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Hmm.... so far it's between WY and TN. You moving? |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 4:34:22 AM EDT
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Florida's legislature only meets for 60 days starting in March.
Although with our governor's dislike of the Fed, I would expect there to be something similar coming. |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 4:39:01 AM EDT
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And the .Fed will do what it always does.....hold federal funds for roads, housing and disaster relief. They haven't done anything to the states that legalized marijuana in defiance of federal law. |
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