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Looks real nice, let's see what's under the hood now, interior etc.
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Needs some of dem twentyfos and bes about 2 feets off the ground G. Metalflake paint too dogg.
Gets some hydrolicks up in derr. Seriously, nice car. If I could pick a car from that era it'd be a Buick GN, had a chance on one, passed it up, regretted it ever since. |
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I've had my fair share of GM "G Bodies". An 85 Buick Regal "T-Type", an 87 Olds 442 and an 84 Monte Carlo SS. Love 'em!
A suggestion though..... don't dismiss a well built 200-4R tranny. They can be VERY stoutly built, and the 1st/2nd gear ratios are alot closer. The TH-700 is great off the line..... but then falls on it's face when you shift into 2nd! Either way..... good luck! I just might have to pick up another G-body. It's been too long since I played with one! |
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Looks like you found the ONE 86 Monte Carlo left in the US that hasn't been turned into a donk
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There isn't a fast back kit in the trunk is there?
Love that one, still has the factory wheels. That side looks CLEAN. Don't cut her too bad, And in 1986 I was rooting for Bill Elliot to beat those too. Sweat ride out of the time machine. |
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LS1 is a 5.7, 346ci. However, they respond very well to 5.3 heads.
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Quoted: LS1 is a 5.7, 346ci. However, they respond very well to 5.3 heads. Can't wait for updates! eh, same architecture |
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LS1 is a 5.7, 346ci. However, they respond very well to 5.3 heads. Can't wait for updates! eh, same architecture How did I know you were going to show up in this thread? |
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Cool!
Wish I could play. Pretty much no 80s-90s musclecars allowed out here. Smog laws and obscure, hard to find little bits for said smog equipment make them a no-go. Pity, as they don't rust. Have seen many, otherwise intact T/As, IROCs and Montes in salvage yards here. Fuck California. |
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Never really liked them in the day, but now it's kinda cool....if you made it a retro sleeper.
ETA: In 1990 I almost bought a 87 Buick Regal T type in light metalic blue |
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Quoted: I <3 fast carsQuoted: Quoted: LS1 is a 5.7, 346ci. However, they respond very well to 5.3 heads. Can't wait for updates! eh, same architecture How did I know you were going to show up in this thread? |
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Those will cross the MECUM or BarrettJackson auction blocks in 10-20 years for $40k.
I like big boxy and old fashioned . |
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Thast '86 Monte Carlo SS came out the year I graduated High School. That brings back pleasant memories.
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OP, think about building a twin setup for your ride instead
read: http://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/1573919-my-observations-opinions-current-street-strip-turbo-ls-trends.html |
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Cool! Wish I could play. Pretty much no 80s-90s musclecars allowed out here. Smog laws and obscure, hard to find little bits for said smog equipment make them a no-go. Pity, as they don't rust. Have seen many, otherwise intact T/As, IROCs and Montes in salvage yards here. Fuck California. This may not apply to you in California... but it does in Missouri and maybe else where too: If your vehicle is at least 25 model years old you can get 'Classic' car license plates for it. With these plates you never have to have a safety or emissions test performed and you never have to pay for plate tags. As far as I know you can then do damn near anything you want engine and emission wise. I had these plates on my 1971 Buick Gran Sport until I sold it and I'm getting ready to do the same thing with my current 1987 Buick Grand National. |
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LS1 is a 5.7, 346ci. However, they respond very well to 5.3 heads. Can't wait for updates! Well I feel stupid now! I thought the early 5.3 cable throttle body (not drive by wire) with the COP's were still LS1's! haha! Okay, change that to an LS2! Thanks for the heads up. EDIT: Okay, let's just call it a Vortec 5.3 and I'll be happy! I just want one of the 5.3 engines like the one in my 05 Sierra. They are dirt cheap and make ridiculous power when some boost is thrown at them. |
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There isn't a fast back kit in the trunk is there? Love that one, still has the factory wheels. That side looks CLEAN. Don't cut her too bad, And in 1986 I was rooting for Bill Elliot to beat those too. Sweat ride out of the time machine. No fastback kit, those cars bring ridiculous money! The car itself is amazingly factory though, it even has the original radio. But after 26 years the interior is very tired so there will be a lot of work in there I am sure. And not to worry, I don't plan on doing anything that can't be undone at a later date! |
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Quoted: Quoted: LS1 is a 5.7, 346ci. However, they respond very well to 5.3 heads. Can't wait for updates! Well I feel stupid now! I thought the early 5.3 cable throttle body (not drive by wire) with the COP's were still LS1's! haha! Okay, change that to an LS2! Thanks for the heads up. EDIT: Okay, let's just call it a Vortec 5.3 and I'll be happy! I just want one of the 5.3 engines like the one in my 05 Sierra. They are dirt cheap and make ridiculous power when some boost is thrown at them. things to buy: LS6 intake LS6cam (VERY good boost cam) some pac beehive springs a set of ls7 or ctsv.r lifters ported LS1 TB the 5.3's do well with boost but i would suggest using an aftermarket fuel rail setup to help keep the number 7 cylinder from getting fuel starved. |
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LS1 is a 5.7, 346ci. However, they respond very well to 5.3 heads. Can't wait for updates! Well I feel stupid now! I thought the early 5.3 cable throttle body (not drive by wire) with the COP's were still LS1's! haha! Okay, change that to an LS2! Thanks for the heads up. EDIT: Okay, let's just call it a Vortec 5.3 and I'll be happy! I just want one of the 5.3 engines like the one in my 05 Sierra. They are dirt cheap and make ridiculous power when some boost is thrown at them. things to buy: LS6 intake LS6cam (VERY good boost cam) some pac beehive springs a set of ls7 or ctsv.r lifters ported LS1 TB the 5.3's do well with boost but i would suggest using an aftermarket fuel rail setup to help keep the number 7 cylinder from getting fuel starved. Was definitely planning on the aftermarket rails as it seems most of these engines are returnless and because of the ECM I will be building I am going to need to do a return style system. I was actually thinking of an LS9 cam as it was designed for a blown engine, and it can be had factory new for relatively little money, although I believe it may not be a simple drop in on the older engines, not sure though. Are the beehive springs a necessity? I have read that the factory springs will be fairly happy up to 6500 RPM. Not sure what I am going to do on a TB. I am quite sure whatever engine I get will have the drive by wire TB and I obviously will not be using a factory ECM. Are people having good luck with the LS1 TB's? Thanks for the advice! |
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Quoted: Anyway I came across this 86 Monte Carlo SS and it was one of the cars on my short list to play with. I took a ride this morning to look at it and was more than a little impressed. Only 78K miles, two small spots of surface rust, very solid underneath, and the price was right at only $2600! I couldn't pass it up and brought it home. Smart man. Great car. |
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There isn't a fast back kit in the trunk is there? Love that one, still has the factory wheels. That side looks CLEAN. Don't cut her too bad, And in 1986 I was rooting for Bill Elliot to beat those too. Sweat ride out of the time machine. No fastback kit, those cars bring ridiculous money! The '86 Aero Coupes are stupid-money... but then, they only made a handful of 'em. The '87 is more common... and can sometimes be found pretty reasonably. |
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Quoted: 1) you are adding boost to the engine. the valves can float with boost + cruddy spring pressure.Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: LS1 is a 5.7, 346ci. However, they respond very well to 5.3 heads. Can't wait for updates! Well I feel stupid now! I thought the early 5.3 cable throttle body (not drive by wire) with the COP's were still LS1's! haha! Okay, change that to an LS2! Thanks for the heads up. EDIT: Okay, let's just call it a Vortec 5.3 and I'll be happy! I just want one of the 5.3 engines like the one in my 05 Sierra. They are dirt cheap and make ridiculous power when some boost is thrown at them. things to buy: LS6 intake LS6cam (VERY good boost cam) some pac beehive springs a set of ls7 or ctsv.r lifters ported LS1 TB the 5.3's do well with boost but i would suggest using an aftermarket fuel rail setup to help keep the number 7 cylinder from getting fuel starved. Was definitely planning on the aftermarket rails as it seems most of these engines are returnless and because of the ECM I will be building I am going to need to do a return style system. I was actually thinking of an LS9 cam as it was designed for a blown engine, and it can be had factory new for relatively little money, although I believe it may not be a simple drop in on the older engines, not sure though. Are the beehive springs a necessity? I have read that the factory springs will be fairly happy up to 6500 RPM. Not sure what I am going to do on a TB. I am quite sure whatever engine I get will have the drive by wire TB and I obviously will not be using a factory ECM. Are people having good luck with the LS1 TB's? Thanks for the advice! 2) the ls9 is a blower cam. turbos require a little different methodology. that and the LS9 is an LS7 cam with tweaks. the cathedral port heads will NOT like it and will be a dog out of boost. the LS6 cam is about the best cheap cam for your setup 3) the LS1 TB's are fine. roughly 78mm when ported. again though, think about a twin setup to help kill lag. i was thinking of using 2 stock GN turbos on my car as there would be almost instant boost and i could have it carry out to 6500 or so. i was also thinking of the 6076e's that precision makes (i think theyre about 600 a piece new). yours would be great with teh 3231e or 3431e. |
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I always loved those cars, especially the fastback, they're getting as rare as hen's teeth.
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You're going to want a Grand National rear end.
The stock ring gear will be the first thing in the drivetrain to fail with any real horsepower. I miss my 84 MCSS... It was a fun car. |
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Cool! Wish I could play. Pretty much no 80s-90s musclecars allowed out here. Smog laws and obscure, hard to find little bits for said smog equipment make them a no-go. Pity, as they don't rust. Have seen many, otherwise intact T/As, IROCs and Montes in salvage yards here. Fuck California. This may not apply to you in California... but it does in Missouri and maybe else where too: If your vehicle is at least 25 model years old you can get 'Classic' car license plates for it. With these plates you never have to have a safety or emissions test performed and you never have to pay for plate tags. As far as I know you can then do damn near anything you want engine and emission wise. I had these plates on my 1971 Buick Gran Sport until I sold it and I'm getting ready to do the same thing with my current 1987 Buick Grand National. Doesn't apply. We 73 and newer, then a rolling 30 year exemption was put in place, then Arnold signed into law that everything 75 and newer has to be smogged every two years forever. Gigantic, Gigantic PITA for anything between 1975 and 1996. I have an 87 Toyota 4x4 that costs me an average of $1,000 every two years to get through smog. And they keep tightening the standards in an attempt to get everything pre 96 off the road for good. |
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Wow!
I wasn't expecting this much interest in my old beater Monte. This is going to force me to start work right away haha! Thanks to everyone for the advice and compliments. Now I hope you can all help to keep me motivated as this project progresses. Winter in Maine is about to slam the door on "toy car" playtime. In addition I have a two month TDY coming up in February that will throw a wrench in the works so to speak. I will do my best to keep you all up to speed on where things stand with the old girl as I pick away. Stay tuned.................... |
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I always loved those cars, especially the fastback, they're getting as rare as hen's teeth. Yep. This would have been even better for that price. http://www.chevelles.com/classifieds/data/35/monte.jpg I will have one. |
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Alright, enough of this bullshitting about what you're going to do with the engine, what we need to know is what the status is on locating and installing a foot print gas pedal
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You're going to want a Grand National rear end. The stock ring gear will be the first thing in the drivetrain to fail with any real horsepower. I miss my 84 MCSS... It was a fun car. There are enough stout pickup truck rear ends in junkyards that you'll never have to search for a GN rear. Heck, even a 9 inch isn't blasphemy on a GM hotrod. Strong and easy. It's all that matters. |
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It screams for one of these crate motors PT# 19201332 PP - ZZ502/502
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Quoted: It screams for one of these crate motors PT# 19201332 PP - ZZ502/502 |
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If you're feeling really spendy and like turning try giving Art Morisson Engineering a call.
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