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Posted: 2/23/2012 9:54:13 AM EDT
I have always heard that said, or "It will turn you inside out".

Has anyone actually seen the effect of the 50 on a human target?  

Figured the bullet probably doesn't tumble much or come apart like the 5.56.  Just puts a 50 cal hole right thru.

I imagine the spall from a hit on a barricade could cause some serious injuries.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 9:55:33 AM EDT
[#1]
There's an Afghanistan video where all you see is a cloud of dust and a human arm and shoulder flying through the air tumbling end over end.

GRAPHIC (of honey badgers getting blown away)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5600920080174465066
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 9:56:44 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
I have always heard that said, or "It will turn you inside out".

Has anyone actually seen the effect of the 50 on a human target?  

Figured the bullet probably doesn't tumble much or come apart like the 5.56.  Just puts a 50 cal hole right thru.

I imagine the spall from a hit on a barricade could cause some serious injuries.


I know napalm turns you inside out, but the .50 will just make lots of your insides become part of the wall or other objects around you outsides.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 9:57:16 AM EDT
[#3]
.50 > 9mm

Link Posted: 2/23/2012 9:58:56 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
There's an Afghanistan video where all you see is a cloud of dust and a human arm and shoulder flying through the air tumbling end over end.

GRAPHIC

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5600920080174465066


Misleading video, this was of a rock chuck or some similar varmint
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:01:36 AM EDT
[#5]



Quoted:



Quoted:

There's an Afghanistan video where all you see is a cloud of dust and a human arm and shoulder flying through the air tumbling end over end.



GRAPHIC



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5600920080174465066




Misleading video, this was of a rock chuck or some similar varmint







 
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:01:58 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
There's an Afghanistan video where all you see is a cloud of dust and a human arm and shoulder flying through the air tumbling end over end.

GRAPHIC

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5600920080174465066


Um...no.  Those are not humans.  Looks like a small varmint of some sort.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:02:21 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
There's an Afghanistan video where all you see is a cloud of dust and a human arm and shoulder flying through the air tumbling end over end.

GRAPHIC

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5600920080174465066


those aren't people being shot
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:02:33 AM EDT
[#8]
My army recruiter was a former sniper. He said that a .50cal pushes so much air that a near miss can still cause damage. "It will tear an arm off if it just misses"

Not sure if its true, but I did see pictures of him in Iraq with a barret, and it was confirmed he was a sniper.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:03:06 AM EDT
[#9]
Truth





Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:03:39 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
There's an Afghanistan video where all you see is a cloud of dust and a human arm and shoulder flying through the air tumbling end over end.

GRAPHIC

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5600920080174465066


That's an old fake, it's actually rodents being shot with a 22-250 or something.

Anyhow from what I've read if the .50 doesn't tumble or hit a big bone it makes about 2" wide of permanent crush around the bullet hole which ought to be plenty to kill anybody.  If it tumbles you're going to be a big mess to clean up.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:04:02 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
There's an Afghanistan video where all you see is a cloud of dust and a human arm and shoulder flying through the air tumbling end over end.

GRAPHIC

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5600920080174465066


those aren't people being shot


Didn't know.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:04:42 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
My army recruiter was a former sniper. He said that a .50cal pushes so much air that a near miss can still cause damage. "It will tear an arm off if it just misses"

Not sure if its true, but I did see pictures of him in Iraq with a barret, and it was confirmed he was a sniper.


Thats horse shit.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:04:50 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
There's an Afghanistan video where all you see is a cloud of dust and a human arm and shoulder flying through the air tumbling end over end.

GRAPHIC

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5600920080174465066


Not human. That video is off a varmint hunter site. ETA :Looks like I'm way late. Didn't mean to flog a dead horse.

There is a video of some guys deer hunting with a .50. It blows an enormous hole out the other side of the deer. Like a head sized hole. Deer has no heart or lungs left and runs quite a ways before falling.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:05:33 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
My army recruiter was a former sniper. He said that a .50cal pushes so much air that a near miss can still cause damage. "It will tear an arm off if it just misses"

Not sure if its true, but I did see pictures of him in Iraq with a barret, and it was confirmed he was a sniper.


Thats extremely hard to believe, it obviously will have a shockwave but theres no way it will cause damage just from passing by, maybe other that your ears...and that video is goats.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:05:52 AM EDT
[#15]
We didn't have nuclear bombs until the 1950's.  Those incidents in Nagasaki and Hiroshima you read about?  That was a guy with two .50 rounds.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:05:56 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
My army recruiter was a former sniper. He said that a .50cal pushes so much air that a near miss can still cause damage. "It will tear an arm off if it just misses"

Not sure if its true, but I did see pictures of him in Iraq with a barret, and it was confirmed he was a sniper.


Thats horse shit.


good to know

I'll add the to the list of things my recruiter lied to me about

Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:06:12 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
My army recruiter was a former sniper. He said that a .50cal pushes so much air that a near miss can still cause damage. "It will tear an arm off if it just misses"

Not sure if its true, but I did see pictures of him in Iraq with a barret, and it was confirmed he was a sniper.


It won't.  Lol.  

Shoot some paper with a .50.  It doesn't destroy the whole thing from the air, it just puts a hole in it.

Anyway, it does do some pretty decent damage, but I never saw limbs amputated from it.  Headshots can get pretty messy.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:06:38 AM EDT
[#18]
Some sniper show on the history channel had a marine sniper that took out a group of taliturds behind a wall with a Raufoss round... he said all you saw was a red mist.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:06:38 AM EDT
[#19]
There's an old photo floating around of a .50 headshot taken in Iraq. They guy still had some head left...pretty messed up though.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:06:57 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
My army recruiter was a former sniper. He said that a .50cal pushes so much air that a near miss can still cause damage. "It will tear an arm off if it just misses"

Not sure if its true, but I did see pictures of him in Iraq with a barret, and it was confirmed he was a sniper.


BooolShit.

A near miss as in a millimeter or two, maybe a cut or something from the shockwave, but the bullet is not displacing enough air to cause a "hydraulic shock" effect in a thin liquid, such as air.

Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:07:11 AM EDT
[#21]
It is effective, very effective.

What more does it really need to do.

Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:07:53 AM EDT
[#22]
Saw a guy that was hit 4 times (friendly fire) with a 50 in Dec. '89.  None of them were solid hits, but he walked out on his own power in Mar.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:08:06 AM EDT
[#23]





Quoted:



My army recruiter was a former sniper. He said that a .50cal pushes so much air that a near miss can still cause damage. "It will tear an arm off if it just misses"





Not sure if its true, but I did see pictures of him in Iraq with a barret, and it was confirmed he was a sniper.



Myth.





It has to hit to hit.





But if it hits say a cinder block wall... all the chunks flying off the wall can hit you and do damage.





Watch Mythbusters episode 123 and you'll see a 50cal pass within an inch or two of wine glasses without any effect.  It wasn't until they moved the rig so close together that the bullet actually hit the glass that there was any effect.





 
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:10:13 AM EDT
[#24]
A USMC Colonel I know who was in charge of a unit crossing the Diyala River had one of his marines using a .50 cal take out a sniper in a tower. He stated that the lower half of sniper's torso fell to the ground.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:11:03 AM EDT
[#25]


DO NOT insert graphic images into threads that do not have a warning in the title-joker581

Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:11:58 AM EDT
[#26]
The only gun I know of that can cut a man in half is a Taurus Judge.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:12:17 AM EDT
[#27]



Quoted:


There's an Afghanistan video where all you see is a cloud of dust and a human arm and shoulder flying through the air tumbling end over end.



GRAPHIC (of honey badgers getting blown away)



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5600920080174465066


I knew what it was going to be before I even clicked







 
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:13:34 AM EDT
[#28]
David Drake wrote about interrogating a girl as she lay dying from a .50 to the stomach.



He didn't mention her being inside out or anything.






 
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:17:09 AM EDT
[#29]
One of my friends joined the TN NG and told me about his first kill in Iraq.  He was on a Ma Deuce and shot at an insurgent a hundred yards away or so.  He said the first burst missed on one side.  The second burst missed on the other side.  But the third burst went right up the middle of guy.  He saw arms and legs flying off in different directions.

The guy was a chronic bullshitter though, but he did serve and he was there where the fighting was happening.  He said to me "after killing people, I don't know how I'm ever going to be excited about deer hunting again.."  Funny thing is he never did go deer hunting when he was growing up.  

My dad also used to tell me that a .50 cal machine gun would cut a man in two right up the middle.  Now, I trusted him.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:17:12 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Some sniper show on the history channel had a marine sniper that took out a group of taliturds behind a wall with a Raufoss round... he said all you saw was a red mist.


Read up on the round. The shot was taken through a wall.

Once those two are understood, you'd understand why all he saw was red mist
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:19:57 AM EDT
[#31]
Not a human, but you get the idea.

.50bmg vs whitetail
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:20:06 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Some sniper show on the history channel had a marine sniper that took out a group of taliturds behind a wall with a Raufoss round... he said all you saw was a red mist.


Read up on the round. The shot was taken through a wall.

Once those two are understood, you'd understand why all he saw was red mist


Well it is a 50 and it does rip motherfuckers apart so it does qualify.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:21:51 AM EDT
[#33]
Charlie Beckwith took a commie .50cal in the abdomen in VN and survived (barely) with the loss of some intestine and the gall bladder.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:24:05 AM EDT
[#34]
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Not a human, but you get the idea.

.50bmg vs whitetail




holeeeee shit
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:25:53 AM EDT
[#35]
You can only use a .50 against equipment not personnel because of the geneva convention, so just aim at their belt buckle.






 
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:25:57 AM EDT
[#36]
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Not a human, but you get the idea.

.50bmg vs whitetail




holeeeee shit


What a god damned waste of a fine animal.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:27:33 AM EDT
[#37]
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Not a human, but you get the idea.

.50bmg vs whitetail


Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:27:51 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
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Not a human, but you get the idea.

.50bmg vs whitetail




holeeeee shit


What was the point of that?  It ruined half of the damn meat.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:30:22 AM EDT
[#39]
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Not a human, but you get the idea.

.50bmg vs whitetail




holeeeee shit


Seems to answer the question......
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:30:34 AM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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Not a human, but you get the idea.

.50bmg vs whitetail




holeeeee shit


What was the point of that?  It ruined ALL of the damn meat.


Fixed it, it appears it ruptured the liver and what do ya wanna bet bile soaked the cavity.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:30:43 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
My army recruiter was a former sniper. He said that a .50cal pushes so much air that a near miss can still cause damage. "It will tear an arm off if it just misses"



That sounds like something a recruiter would say
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:31:13 AM EDT
[#42]
Saw an insurgent get capped by an RWS equipped M2 while deployed. It was....pretty much how you'd expect it would be.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:32:26 AM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
One of my friends joined the TN NG and told me about his first kill in Iraq.  He was on a Ma Deuce and shot at an insurgent a hundred yards away or so.  He said the first burst missed on one side.  The second burst missed on the other side.  But the third burst went right up the middle of guy.  He saw arms and legs flying off in different directions.

The guy was a chronic bullshitter though, but he did serve and he was there where the fighting was happening.  He said to me "after killing people, I don't know how I'm ever going to be excited about deer hunting again.."  Funny thing is he never did go deer hunting when he was growing up.  

My dad also used to tell me that a .50 cal machine gun would cut a man in two right up the middle.  Now, I trusted him.


Multiple rounds... shit yeah!  one.... nah...
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:32:50 AM EDT
[#44]
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:33:32 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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Not a human, but you get the idea.

.50bmg vs whitetail




holeeeee shit


What was the point of that?  It ruined ALL of the damn meat.


Fixed it, it appears it ruptured the liver and what do ya wanna bet bile soaked the cavity.


The back straps should be OK.  But it is hard telling until you get in there, but you may be right.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:33:47 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
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Not a human, but you get the idea.

.50bmg vs whitetail




holeeeee shit


What was the point of that?  It ruined half of the damn meat.


Educational.  A miss wouldn't have blown the animal's legs off.  And yes I've heard that story 10000000x in the army.
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:34:37 AM EDT
[#47]
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:36:30 AM EDT
[#48]



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Saw a guy that was hit 4 times (friendly fire) with a 50 in Dec. '89.  None of them were solid hits, but he walked out on his own power in Mar.






 
Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:38:19 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/23/2012 10:40:25 AM EDT
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