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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:36:34 AM EDT
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They're called ICBM's....
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:37:00 AM EDT
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M.A.D.
This has been true since the 1960s. The door swings both ways. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:37:24 AM EDT
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Since most of their SSBNs are rotting in port and their country and military is in the shitter. Id say its more like Russia can get fucked because our boats are still ready to put the hurt on thoose assholes at the drop of a hat.
Our tech is 2020 their's is 1990 |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:38:27 AM EDT
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M.A.D. This has been true since the 1960s. The door swings both ways. Yep you can be winning like Charlie Sheen for about .2 seconds but when you get hit back your getting the whole 9 inches Petey Pablo and its gonna hurt. 
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:38:34 AM EDT
[#5]
 Speed |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:38:50 AM EDT
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M.A.D. This has been true since the 1960s. The door swings both ways. That would depend on who our QB is with the football. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:39:45 AM EDT
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Quoted: Since most of their SSBNs are rotting in port and their country and military is in the shitter. Id say its more like Russia can get fucked because our boats are still ready to put the hurt on thoose assholes at the drop of a hat. Our tech is 2020 their's is 1990   |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:40:44 AM EDT
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Since most of their SSBNs are rotting in port and their country and military is in the shitter. Id say its more like Russia can get fucked because our boats are still ready to put the hurt on thoose assholes at the drop of a hat. Our tech is 2020 their's is 1990 I'd put it at more like 1999 and 1980 |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:41:23 AM EDT
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They could probably do a lot of damage to us with their remaining nuclear delivery systems that actually function, but our systems are in far better
condition, far more reliable, and our fleets aren't rotting away for lack of funding, crews, or missions. We certainly can render Russia as dead as the surface of the moon in the time it takes to get a pizza delivered. They know that. Maybe they can do it to us, too, but it's not an issue because it's not going to happen. The actual issues between the US and Russia at this time are all pretty minor. Neither country's national security or world standing is in jeopardy due to any actions on the part of the other country. No, our national security and world standing is in jeopardy due to the actions of our own elected officials, instead.  |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:41:28 AM EDT
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i don't think we have enough to destroy ourselves.
they could put the smackdown and take out some of the major cities but the vast majority of the US is sparsely populated and wouldn't be targeted. now if hes taking about the porn industry i would believe him Russian porn is nasty. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:42:21 AM EDT
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Quoted: M.A.D. This has been true since the 1960s. The door swings both ways. Well their agent over here is trying his best to get rid of our nukes and defenses. Putin might be right. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:42:24 AM EDT
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Missiles- how do they work?
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:42:29 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: M.A.D. This has been true since the 1960s. The door swings both ways. That would depend on who our QB is with the football. Worst case: Bolt out of the Blue with a CinC hesitating and does nothing. There is a huge response gliding silently beneath the waves. They aren't just making fish sticks down there. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:42:42 AM EDT
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M.A.D. This has been true since the 1960s. The door swings both ways. That would depend on who our QB is with the football. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I would venture a guess that US nukes would still fly, regardless of President Obama's decision to not retaliate against a Russian nuke attack. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:43:13 AM EDT
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obama did it in three seconds |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:44:32 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: M.A.D. This has been true since the 1960s. The door swings both ways. That would depend on who our QB is with the football. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I would venture a guess that US nukes would still fly, regardless of President Obama's decision to not retaliate against a Russian nuke attack. They may not fly right away - but they would ultimately fly. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:46:28 AM EDT
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Quoted: i don't think we have enough to destroy ourselves. they could put the smackdown and take out some of the major cities but the vast majority of the US is sparsely populated and wouldn't be targeted. now if hes taking about the porn industry i would believe him Russian porn is nasty. Agree. If Russia would unleash a mass of free porn links, computer virus would destroy the US computer infrastructure in about 30 minutes. In particular, the Russian tranny midget donkey porn........... 
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:47:07 AM EDT
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And they could do it with one missile directed at Fayettville/Bentonville AR,home of WalMart.
Folks of the US will have nowhere else to hang out. Chaos befalls the land. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:48:04 AM EDT
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Obama allowed a mine shaft gap.
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:48:13 AM EDT
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In the back of my head, I'm thinking one ground burst on the Pantex storage facility would be bad juju as far as distribution of fallout.
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:50:29 AM EDT
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Quoted: You never saw Wargames, did you? His comment at dinner was that " Russia can destroy the U.S. in a half hour or less." WTF, really, since when.  |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:51:06 AM EDT
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I would be more interested in Putin's opinion on how fast Russia can destroy Russia.
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:51:30 AM EDT
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M.A.D. This has been true since the 1960s. The door swings both ways. Not with the coward we have now as president. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:55:41 AM EDT
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and the US could do the same.
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:56:44 AM EDT
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Sounds like we need to weaponize space so we can shoot down ICBM's.
Then we would def have the upper hand on em. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 9:59:26 AM EDT
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Not a public statement, but hearsay from an annual dinner with "foreign academics and journalists."
Reported by the consistently unreliable Wall Street Journal. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:01:36 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: M.A.D. This has been true since the 1960s. The door swings both ways. Not with the coward we have now as president. He isn't alone in the legally-recognized chain. Give that some thought. All nuclear nations have options for leadership that are "decapitated" in a first-strike. These issues have been examined and a legal , operational and policy framework established to support continued operations and survival. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:06:55 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: M.A.D. This has been true since the 1960s. The door swings both ways. Not with the coward we have now as president. He isn't alone in the legally-recognized chain. Give that some thought. All nuclear nations have options for leadership that are "decapitated" in a first-strike. These issues have been examined and a legal , operational and policy framework established to support continued operations and survival. By the time we found out we were being launched on, to having impacts on US soil, to actually having our own birds fly would be a little while even when it all works perfectly. There are not exactly SAC aircraft always airborne anymore. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:06:58 AM EDT
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Russia seems to have had a working orbital EMP weapon active since the 1960s. IIRC it is now non-nuclear, so they could use it to knock out or electric grid and military C3 without crossing the nuclear threshold.
That means we would be powerless (no pun intended) to respond short of blindly launching all our ballistic missile submarine warheads. That is in direct opposition of our stated policy of retaliation only, with no first strike. And the continental military and US cities would be toast. Yes, a Fractional Orbital Bombardment System with a few EMP weapons takes less than 1 hour over the south pole and NORAD would be looking north. Already in orbit, one orbital EMP weapon burst could be followed up by an ICBM launch against military targets and/or our cities. I think blackmail and power trips are what the Russians like best. Let them rape the "Near Abroad", or else. Now we are cutting the military to save entitlements. 
Brilliant! |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:09:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: This wasn't really the point of the article, but thought it was inderasting. Putin is on the list for the Chinese "Confucius" Peace Prize. His comment at dinner was that " Russia can destroy the U.S. in a half hour or less." WTF, really, since when. What dose he mean? Kinetic military strikes, economics, diseased russian whores. Link Since ICBM's and nukes.....late 1950's.... 
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:11:05 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted: Obama allowed a mine shaft gap.  |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:17:10 AM EDT
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This wasn't really the point of the article, but thought it was inderasting. Putin is on the list for the Chinese "Confucius" Peace Prize. His comment at dinner was that " Russia can destroy the U.S. in a half hour or less." WTF, really, since when. What dose he mean? Kinetic military strikes, economics, diseased russian whores. Link Not meaning this in an insulting way, but how old are you? We didn't have the worlds longest staring contest with the russian bear for no reason afterall. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:18:39 AM EDT
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Russia seems to have had a working orbital EMP weapon active since the 1960s. IIRC it is now non-nuclear, so they could use it to knock out or electric grid and military C3 without crossing the nuclear threshold. That means we would be powerless (no pun intended) to respond short of blindly launching all our ballistic missile submarine warheads. That is in direct opposition of our stated policy of retaliation only, with no first strike. And the continental military and US cities would be toast. Yes, a Fractional Orbital Bombardment System with a few EMP weapons takes less than 1 hour over the south pole and NORAD would be looking north. Already in orbit, one orbital EMP weapon burst could be followed up by an ICBM launch against military targets and/or our cities. I think blackmail and power trips are what the Russians like best. Let them rape the "Near Abroad", or else. Now we are cutting the military to save entitlements.
Brilliant! If I remember a long thread we had a while back- EMPs don't exactly work the way you think they do. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:23:30 AM EDT
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This wasn't really the point of the article, but thought it was inderasting. Putin is on the list for the Chinese "Confucius" Peace Prize. His comment at dinner was that " Russia can destroy the U.S. in a half hour or less." WTF, really, since when. What dose he mean? Kinetic military strikes, economics, diseased russian whores. Link Not meaning this in an insulting way, but how old are you? We didn't have the worlds longest staring contest with the russian bear for no reason afterall. Mid 20's. I understand that part of it, i just thought between our newer tech and anti missle systems that those older ICBM's wouldn't be that effective. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:29:07 AM EDT
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Russia seems to have had a working orbital EMP weapon active since the 1960s. IIRC it is now non-nuclear, so they could use it to knock out or electric grid and military C3 without crossing the nuclear threshold. That means we would be powerless (no pun intended) to respond short of blindly launching all our ballistic missile submarine warheads. That is in direct opposition of our stated policy of retaliation only, with no first strike. And the continental military and US cities would be toast. Yes, a Fractional Orbital Bombardment System with a few EMP weapons takes less than 1 hour over the south pole and NORAD would be looking north. Already in orbit, one orbital EMP weapon burst could be followed up by an ICBM launch against military targets and/or our cities. I think blackmail and power trips are what the Russians like best. Let them rape the "Near Abroad", or else. Now we are cutting the military to save entitlements.
Brilliant! If I remember a long thread we had a while back- EMPs don't exactly work the way you think they do. Ahh...ARFCOM source of authoritative absolutism. End of discussion. Thanks! |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:35:23 AM EDT
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BEGS TO DIFFER.
LOL WUT?? 
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:39:56 AM EDT
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They probably could. They would get destroyed in the process but that would be small comfort to us.
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:43:25 AM EDT
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This wasn't really the point of the article, but thought it was inderasting. Putin is on the list for the Chinese "Confucius" Peace Prize. His comment at dinner was that " Russia can destroy the U.S. in a half hour or less." WTF, really, since when. What dose he mean? Kinetic military strikes, economics, diseased russian whores. Link OH, now I get it. The Confucius Award requires you to put down a statement that can fit onto a fortune cookie. Russia can destroy the U.S. in a half hour or less is Putin's contribution. Flip side: Lucky Numbers 16-69-87-89-101 Edit: Tested, it works: Russia can destroy the U.S. in a half hour or less....in bed. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:48:17 AM EDT
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Quoted: Russia seems to have had a working orbital EMP weapon active since the 1960s. IIRC it is now non-nuclear, so they could use it to knock out or electric grid and military C3 without crossing the nuclear threshold. That means we would be powerless (no pun intended) to respond short of blindly launching all our ballistic missile submarine warheads. That is in direct opposition of our stated policy of retaliation only, with no first strike. And the continental military and US cities would be toast. Yes, a Fractional Orbital Bombardment System with a few EMP weapons takes less than 1 hour over the south pole and NORAD would be looking north. Already in orbit, one orbital EMP weapon burst could be followed up by an ICBM launch against military targets and/or our cities. I think blackmail and power trips are what the Russians like best. Let them rape the "Near Abroad", or else. Now we are cutting the military to save entitlements. Brilliant! How much of that is from Call of Duty? |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:50:58 AM EDT
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Missiles- how do they work? Exactly. A button has to be pushed and then something happens. You think a lot of Soviet missiles would even launch? Maybe like a fleet of 1984 Yugos at best. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:51:35 AM EDT
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Sounds like we need to weaponize space so we can shoot down ICBM's. Then we would def have the upper hand on em. What a great idea. You should go work for the Reagan administration. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:53:23 AM EDT
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Since most of their SSBNs are rotting in port and their country and military is in the shitter. Id say its more like Russia can get fucked because our boats are still ready to put the hurt on thoose assholes at the drop of a hat. Our tech is 2020 their's is 1990 Deadly still..If we had the assests to knockout Russian Nuclear attack 100% it would be announced. |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:55:01 AM EDT
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Is this the Idiocracy thread?
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:57:06 AM EDT
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Hey Vlad, news flash....
We can wipe you out in less than hour, too. Your move, dick.
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Posted: 11/15/2011 10:57:45 AM EDT
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Russia seems to have had a working orbital EMP weapon active since the 1960s. IIRC it is now non-nuclear, so they could use it to knock out or electric grid and military C3 without crossing the nuclear threshold. If there is indeed a method of producing enough power to knock out our entire power grid from space without using a nuclear explosion then I have some reading up to do on this fantastic new source of vast amounts of non-nuclear energy that is small enough and light enough to be launched into space. Consider me skeptical until further documentation is provided.
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Posted: 11/15/2011 11:00:07 AM EDT
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This wasn't really the point of the article, but thought it was inderasting. Putin is on the list for the Chinese "Confucius" Peace Prize. His comment at dinner was that " Russia can destroy the U.S. in a half hour or less." WTF, really, since when. What dose he mean? Kinetic military strikes, economics, diseased russian whores. Link Not meaning this in an insulting way, but how old are you? We didn't have the worlds longest staring contest with the russian bear for no reason afterall. Mid 20's. I understand that part of it, i just thought between our newer tech and anti missle systems that those older ICBM's wouldn't be that effective. Just so OP doesn't feel so alone, I'll admit that as a young person I didn't really appreciate that Russia could strike as far south as Texas by firing from the north, across Canada, until I saw some old ass 70's movie about a supercomputer that went nuts and tried to take over the world. Name of the movie was "Colossus" I think. I think most people envision the missiles lumbering across the Pacific and giving us plenty of time to spot them. 
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Posted: 11/15/2011 11:06:16 AM EDT
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anybody remember War Games?
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Posted: 11/15/2011 11:08:42 AM EDT
[#48]
 Moscow water, must have too much fluoride in it.
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Posted: 11/15/2011 11:13:13 AM EDT
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Since most of their SSBNs are rotting in port and their country and military is in the shitter. Id say its more like Russia can get fucked because our boats are still ready to put the hurt on thoose assholes at the drop of a hat. Our tech is 2020 their's is 1980 fify |
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Posted: 11/15/2011 11:14:38 AM EDT
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While i don't think it's likely, it's entirely possible that Russia could not deliver a single warhead to the US. We may have some semblance of warhead parity, but our shit works waaaay better than theirs.
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