How much Sudafed does it take to make meth?

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - How much Sudafed does it take to make meth?

Posted: 3/23/2011 4:55:52 PM EDT

I'm limited to 20 tablets at a time and it looks like more restrictions are possibly coming, so evidently the current law isn't stopping the meth heads.

Don't the lawmakers know that more restrictions more than likely won't stop them either?

Posted: 3/23/2011 4:57:07 PM EDT

[#1]

Great, now you are on another gooberment list somewhere

Posted: 3/23/2011 4:59:08 PM EDT

[#2]

It's a one-to-one ratio. You're going from this:

to this:

You're removing one oxygen atom.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:01:45 PM EDT

[#3]

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:03:25 PM EDT

[#4]

ifen i was you i'd just go straight to paint thinner.. they'll never ban it and you can huff till you die...

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:04:44 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
I'm limited to 20 tablets at a time and it looks like more restrictions are possibly coming, so evidently the current law isn't stopping the meth heads.

Don't the lawmakers know that more restrictions more than likely won't stop them either?

I don't see how you are limited to 20 at a time when WalMart will sell me 48ct boxes. There is even a 96 ct box.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:05:38 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
ifen i was you i'd just go straight to paint thinner.. they'll never ban it and you can huff till you die...

that's what i always done

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:06:05 PM EDT

[#7]

Now I could just be dead wrong here, but my understanding was that most meth these days is imported from mexico due to the restrictions we have up here now. That could be pure .gov propaganda, but I thought there was some truth to it.

I'm still not a fan of the regulations as the meth jr. shit is awesome when battling some of the super nasty colds that have been coming through.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:07:32 PM EDT

[#8]

Can't get it here without a script. Meth busts have gone down big time. While it is a huge pain in the fucking ass, Haley Barbour got that one right.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:07:41 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
I'm limited to 20 tablets at a time and it looks like more restrictions are possibly coming, so evidently the current law isn't stopping the meth heads.

Don't the lawmakers know that more restrictions more than likely won't stop them either?

The current law doesn't even come close to stopping them. They'll pile up in a car and spend all day driving from place to place with each of them going in to buy a box. They'll keep calendars so they can remember when they can go to which store. That doesn't even take into account that they'll pay some one else to pick up a box for them.
It's a huge problem in the western part of our state. NC doesn't require standardized logs so it takes the agents an insane amount of time to go through them and pick out patterns. I was told in one area here that a weeks worth of logs from one Wal Mart would be the thickness of a large metro phone book.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:08:47 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:

It's a one-to-one ratio. You're going from this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/%28%2B%29-Pseudoephedrin.svg/175px-%28%2B%29-Pseudoephedrin.svg.png

to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Methamphetamine.svg/200px-Methamphetamine.svg.png

You're removing one oxygen atom.

hydroxyl group

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:08:59 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm limited to 20 tablets at a time and it looks like more restrictions are possibly coming, so evidently the current law isn't stopping the meth heads.

Don't the lawmakers know that more restrictions more than likely won't stop them either?

I don't see how you are limited to 20 at a time when WalMart will sell me 48ct boxes. There is even a 96 ct box.

THIS! You can get the SAM's Generic 96 count for about $3.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:10:42 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:

Can't get it here without a script. Meth busts have gone down big time. While it is a huge pain in the fucking ass, Haley Barbour got that one right.

No he didn't. Now white trash buys their meth from Mexicans that chop off each other's heads instead of making it in their shitty trailer. Plus all the law abiding still have to deal with the meth heads AND have to pay for a Dr. visit just to get cold medicine.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:11:46 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
ifen i was you i'd just go straight to paint thinner.. they'll never ban it and you can huff till you die...

Paint thinner doesn't help me with my allergies.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:12:57 PM EDT

[#14]

Sucks balls. I have allergies that get pretty bad at times. Mostly nasal/sinus congestion. The phenylenephrine you can get over the counter (without ID or limits) doesn't do SHIT for me. Only the real pseudoephedrine does. I hate that I have to be ID'd and limited because some other stupid FUCKHEADS want to do something with the product it wasn't intended for.

But such seems to be the answer in our 'progressive' society. Gotta protect me from myself, because, I just might randomly decide to make meth or something.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:14:39 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:

It's a one-to-one ratio. You're going from this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/%28%2B%29-Pseudoephedrin.svg/175px-%28%2B%29-Pseudoephedrin.svg.png

to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Methamphetamine.svg/200px-Methamphetamine.svg.png

You're removing one oxygen atom.

hydroxyl group

Nope. Oxygen atom. Technically you're replacing a hydroxyl group with a hydrogen atom. The end result is the loss of one oxygen atom.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:17:21 PM EDT

[#16]

More than you can buy in a month.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:18:07 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm limited to 20 tablets at a time and it looks like more restrictions are possibly coming, so evidently the current law isn't stopping the meth heads.

Don't the lawmakers know that more restrictions more than likely won't stop them either?

I don't see how you are limited to 20 at a time when WalMart will sell me 48ct boxes. There is even a 96 ct box.

I should have mentioned the 12 hour tablets.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:18:42 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
It's a one-to-one ratio. You're going from this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/%28%2B%29-Pseudoephedrin.svg/175px-%28%2B%29-Pseudoephedrin.svg.png

to this:

http://th24.photobucket.com/albums/c4/Veritas5107/th_Methamphetamine_molecule1.jpg

You're removing one oxygen atom.

Did you figure this out in your "lab"?

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:19:24 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
Sucks balls. I have allergies that get pretty bad at times. Mostly nasal/sinus congestion. The phenylenephrine you can get over the counter (without ID or limits) doesn't do SHIT for me. Only the real pseudoephedrine does. I hate that I have to be ID'd and limited because some other stupid FUCKHEADS want to do something with the product it wasn't intended for.

But such seems to be the answer in our 'progressive' society. Gotta protect me from myself, because, I just might randomly decide to make meth or something.

You are limited to a total of 9 grams a month. Since Sudafed is in 30mg tabs, that's a LOT of doses.

I'd say that if you are downing 9 grams of the crap then it's not working for you and you need to find something better.

Sudafed is REALLY bad for the prostate and blood pressure in high doses.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:20:10 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
Sucks balls. I have allergies that get pretty bad at times. Mostly nasal/sinus congestion. The phenylenephrine you can get over the counter (without ID or limits) doesn't do SHIT for me. Only the real pseudoephedrine does. I hate that I have to be ID'd and limited because some other stupid FUCKHEADS want to do something with the product it wasn't intended for.

But such seems to be the answer in our 'progressive' society. Gotta protect me from myself, because, I just might randomly decide to make meth or something.

That's about how I feel. I get punished because someone else breaks the law.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:21:18 PM EDT

[#21]

You can get Bronkaid 48ct, behind the counter, at any drugstore. This is ephedrine sulfate which is a lot more effective than pseudoephedrine.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:21:58 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
More than you can buy in a month.

Is that for Sudafed or a Glock 7?

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:22:30 PM EDT

[#23]

Too much to be profitable from my POV...

Kharn

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Posted: 3/23/2011 5:22:35 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:

It's a one-to-one ratio. You're going from this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/%28%2B%29-Pseudoephedrin.svg/175px-%28%2B%29-Pseudoephedrin.svg.png

to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Methamphetamine.svg/200px-Methamphetamine.svg.png

You're removing one oxygen atom.

hydroxyl group

Nope. Oxygen atom. Technically you're replacing a hydroxyl group with a hydrogen atom. The end result is the loss of one oxygen atom.

So you call that process what? Deoxygenation? The hydrogen atom doesn't really count and no chemist would refer to that as removing an oxygen atom.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:23:20 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
Now I could just be dead wrong here, but my understanding was that most meth these days is imported from mexico due to the restrictions we have up here now. That could be pure .gov propaganda, but I thought there was some truth to it.

I'm still not a fan of the regulations as the meth jr. shit is awesome when battling some of the super nasty colds that have been coming through.

BS, my brother is a farmer and those fuckers will steal TANKS of anhydrous no questions asked.

Apparently you can make meth out of lots of things. Live in a city? It gets made out of shit from a pharmacy. In the country? Anhydrous ammonia.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:24:50 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:

It's a one-to-one ratio. You're going from this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/%28%2B%29-Pseudoephedrin.svg/175px-%28%2B%29-Pseudoephedrin.svg.png

to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Methamphetamine.svg/200px-Methamphetamine.svg.png

You're removing one oxygen atom.

hydroxyl group

Nope. Oxygen atom. Technically you're replacing a hydroxyl group with a hydrogen atom. The end result is the loss of one oxygen atom.

I count 7 Hydrogen atoms in meth, and 8 in it's predecessor. Explain yourself.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:25:57 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Sucks balls. I have allergies that get pretty bad at times. Mostly nasal/sinus congestion. The phenylenephrine you can get over the counter (without ID or limits) doesn't do SHIT for me. Only the real pseudoephedrine does. I hate that I have to be ID'd and limited because some other stupid FUCKHEADS want to do something with the product it wasn't intended for.

But such seems to be the answer in our 'progressive' society. Gotta protect me from myself, because, I just might randomly decide to make meth or something.

That's about how I feel. I get punished because someone else breaks the law.

I blame the WWF (WWE)

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:28:46 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:

It's a one-to-one ratio. You're going from this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/%28%2B%29-Pseudoephedrin.svg/175px-%28%2B%29-Pseudoephedrin.svg.png

to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Methamphetamine.svg/200px-Methamphetamine.svg.png

You're removing one oxygen atom.

hydroxyl group

Nope. Oxygen atom. Technically you're replacing a hydroxyl group with a hydrogen atom. The end result is the loss of one oxygen atom.

I count 7 Hydrogen atoms in meth, and 8 in it's predecessor. Explain yourself.

There's actually 15 in each

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:29:32 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:

It's a one-to-one ratio. You're going from this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/%28%2B%29-Pseudoephedrin.svg/175px-%28%2B%29-Pseudoephedrin.svg.png

to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Methamphetamine.svg/200px-Methamphetamine.svg.png

You're removing one oxygen atom.

hydroxyl group

Nope. Oxygen atom. Technically you're replacing a hydroxyl group with a hydrogen atom. The end result is the loss of one oxygen atom.

I count 7 Hydrogen atoms in meth, and 8 in it's predecessor. Explain yourself.

There's actually 15 in each

I just read up on how I was wrong. Forgive me, I don't know much of organic chem yet.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:36:46 PM EDT

[#30]

I’ve got an idea… meth camp. It’s sort of like a death camp, except with meth.

The camp gives everyone a tent, a cot, and food. It also gives them all the meth they want. Only thing is, when you go in you can’t leave… Oh, there should be a way to leave if you want, but only after a few weeks detox. Most of them would never make it and ask to be sent back to meth camp.

I know meth camp would cost a bit of money to run. But it’s got to be cheaper than it is to give all those people welfare.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:48:42 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:

ifen i was you i'd just go straight to paint thinner.. they'll never ban it and you can huff till you die...

Paint thinner doesn't help me with my allergies.

Is there some place on the internet where they show how to turn meth into psuedofed?

I think this would be useful to know in the future when all the psuedofed is gone but meth is cheaper and more plentiful than ever.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:52:14 PM EDT

[#32]

methylamine

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:53:33 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:

Sucks balls. I have allergies that get pretty bad at times. Mostly nasal/sinus congestion. The phenylenephrine you can get over the counter (without ID or limits) doesn't do SHIT for me. Only the real pseudoephedrine does. I hate that I have to be ID'd and limited because some other stupid FUCKHEADS want to do something with the product it wasn't intended for.

But such seems to be the answer in our 'progressive' society. Gotta protect me from myself, because, I just might randomly decide to make meth or something.

+1000!!!

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:54:23 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:

ifen i was you i'd just go straight to paint thinner.. they'll never ban it and you can huff till you die...

Paint thinner doesn't help me with my allergies.

Is there some place on the internet where they show how to turn meth into psuedofed?

I think this would be useful to know in the future when all the psuedofed is gone but meth is cheaper and more plentiful than ever.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:55:03 PM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:
I’ve got an idea… meth camp. It’s sort of like a death camp, except with meth.

The camp gives everyone a tent, a cot, and food. It also gives them all the meth they want. Only thing is, when you go in you can’t leave… Oh, there should be a way to leave if you want, but only after a few weeks detox. Most of them would never make it and ask to be sent back to meth camp.

I know meth camp would cost a bit of money to run. But it’s got to be cheaper than it is to give all those people welfare.

Has potential. Make 'em work while they are there, too.

Posted: 3/23/2011 5:58:17 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
ifen i was you i'd just go straight to paint thinner.. they'll never ban it and you can huff till you die...

Paint thinner doesn't help me with my allergies.

Is there some place on the internet where they show how to turn meth into psuedofed?

I think this would be useful to know in the future when all the psuedofed is gone but meth is cheaper and more plentiful than ever.

It's funny now, but you'll more than likely turn out to be right.

Posted: 3/23/2011 6:19:24 PM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:

Is there some place on the internet where they show how to turn meth into psuedofed?

I think this would be useful to know in the future when all the psuedofed is gone but meth is cheaper and more plentiful than ever.

Best post I've read all week

Posted: 3/23/2011 6:33:49 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Now I could just be dead wrong here, but my understanding was that most meth these days is imported from mexico due to the restrictions we have up here now. That could be pure .gov propaganda, but I thought there was some truth to it.

I'm still not a fan of the regulations as the meth jr. shit is awesome when battling some of the super nasty colds that have been coming through.

BS, my brother is a farmer and those fuckers will steal TANKS of anhydrous no questions asked.

Apparently you can make meth out of lots of things. Live in a city? It gets made out of shit from a pharmacy. In the country? Anhydrous ammonia.

I'm pretty sure the ammonia is just used in the reaction to make psuedophendrine into meth.

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Posted: 3/23/2011 6:36:24 PM EDT

[#39]

What type of drug is meth? I'm not a doper and dislike dopers so I don't know anything about meth. I've had Lortab, Percodan, and Morphine, (during and after hospital stays) and all these are opiates I think?

I'm curious about what could possibly be so good that people are willing destroy their life for their next fix. What kind of high do they get from it?

It's suppose to be complicated to make, but no one will ever convince me after seeing mug shots of the meth retards.

Posted: 3/23/2011 6:39:18 PM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:

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ifen i was you i'd just go straight to paint thinner.. they'll never ban it and you can huff till you die...

Paint thinner doesn't help me with my allergies.

Add model airplane glue to your paint regimen and call me in the morning.

You can also up the dosage and take the paint huffing every 3 hrs.

Posted: 3/23/2011 6:42:54 PM EDT

[#41]

The only thing that is doing is stopping the smaller time manufacturers. Do you really think the organizations/sydicates who produce these drugs on a commercial scale really obtain their precursors that way?

Posted: 3/23/2011 6:56:11 PM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:

Now white trash buys their meth from Mexicans that chop off each other's heads instead of making it in their shitty trailer.

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