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Posted: 5/14/2010 6:07:19 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:08:12 AM EDT
[#1]
I'm all for it.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:09:13 AM EDT
[#2]
SO, France is surrendering from the Union.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:10:40 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
SO, France is surrendering from the Union.


Strategic withdrawal.

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Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:12:10 AM EDT
[#4]
The party's over
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:12:22 AM EDT
[#5]
Trying to force Germany to go along with the bailout.

Maybe this is Germanys sign to GTFO.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:14:23 AM EDT
[#6]
But i thought we were going to have a one world government

Fuck you NWO, what a let down
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:17:45 AM EDT
[#7]
Next destination for the EU bus is FAIL.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:19:14 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Next destination for the EU bus is FAIL.


Sure looks like it... Question is, is it a good thing or a bad thing? (seems good on the face of it, but I don't know enough about European politics to say anything definitively...)
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:19:28 AM EDT
[#9]
teh utopia is failing






Didn't see that shit coming at all. When will the left learn?
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:19:45 AM EDT
[#10]
The real question I have is this:  Lincoln fought a war to keep the United States intact - would the EU and other nations in the Union do the same?



Would France be ALLOWED to withdraw?  Or is this just a monetary thing?
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:20:11 AM EDT
[#11]
So, who thinks this could lead to a conflict down the road?
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:21:37 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
The real question I have is this:  Lincoln fought a war to keep the United States intact - would the EU and other nations in the Union do the same?

Would France be ALLOWED to withdraw?  Or is this just a monetary thing?


It's a loose economic agreement between nations.  Don't expect any war over this until their demise when islam takes over.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:22:00 AM EDT
[#13]
I hope this means the end of the Euro and that these countries go back to their individual currencies.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:22:45 AM EDT
[#14]
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:22:57 AM EDT
[#15]
Threatened.  Change your verb tense in the header.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:23:15 AM EDT
[#16]
Bad thing.

Economic depression
Civil Unrest
Rampant Nationalism
Distrust of foreigners
Racial/Ethnic Tension
Anger over bailing out others


Yep, looks good from here...

Who plays Franz Ferdinand in this one?
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:23:25 AM EDT
[#17]



Quoted:



Quoted:

The real question I have is this:  Lincoln fought a war to keep the United States intact - would the EU and other nations in the Union do the same?



Would France be ALLOWED to withdraw?  Or is this just a monetary thing?




It's a loose economic agreement between nations.  Don't expect any war over this until their demise when islam takes over.


Gotcha.  I'm not 100% squared away on how the EU works with matters such as this.

 





Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:26:31 AM EDT
[#18]
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:28:16 AM EDT
[#19]
All these years now the Libs have been crying for the US to be " More like Europe "



What a bunch of morons
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:28:46 AM EDT
[#20]
I think the last thing France should do is piss off Germany...again!
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:29:26 AM EDT
[#21]
This is nothing before Crime Inc. is through redistributing America's economy most of the states will be pulling out.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:29:41 AM EDT
[#22]
Meanwhile, In America.....
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:29:43 AM EDT
[#23]
I think the EU was a bad idea from the start....
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:30:04 AM EDT
[#24]
Greece is going to default eventually and the Germans are going to be beyond pissed when Portugal etc. belly up to the trough.  Merkel's party already took losses in one election over the bailout, losing their majority in one house of the legislature, trying to push another doomed loan is not going to go over well at all.  Whether Sarkozy bails out or not I can't say, but the Germans are reaching their limit politically.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:31:43 AM EDT
[#25]
market is down 125.........   could be an intersting day.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:33:00 AM EDT
[#26]
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:33:10 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
So, who thinks this could lead to a conflict down the road?


The coming war will be necessary to reset sovereign debt.

Count on it.

TXL
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:33:59 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Next destination for the EU bus is FAIL.


It couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch.

How does anyone take a Europroponent seriously at this point?  There was so much FAIL in the design of the EU and the EMU from the get-go.  Talk about a sterling example of the triumph of hope over experience.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:35:36 AM EDT
[#29]
France and Germany are the only two large economies in Europe that are strong, they could also switch to a common currency between eachother and screw everyone else.





Lots of talk about Germany switching back to the Deutschemark.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:36:12 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Next destination for the EU bus is FAIL.


Sure looks like it... Question is, is it a good thing or a bad thing? (seems good on the face of it, but I don't know enough about European politics to say anything definitively...)




Good thing.

The Euro has crippled the southern European economies and is holding back the northern European ones.


Both German and Italy have done a consultation of recovering all their Euros, (they're all marked with a national letter code), with a view to a possible eject from the common currency.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:37:35 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Meanwhile, In America.....


Unfortunately, America can't pull out of the Dollar, so we're fucked.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:37:46 AM EDT
[#32]
This year's Bilderberg meeting ought to be a hoot.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:37:53 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
You mean pantywaist Europeans can't play nice with one another?  Shocking!  


Not when they lose their rag they're not.  

I have always found the European post-war pacifist illusion amusing, denial ain't just a river Hans.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:38:27 AM EDT
[#34]
They are le tired
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:38:52 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
France and Germany are the only two large economies in Europe that are strong, they could also switch to a common currency between eachother and screw everyone else.


Lots of talk about Germany switching back to the Deutschemark.




Indeed, and there are still 14 Billion of DMks under people beds in Germany - seriously.

http://www.impactlab.com/2008/05/02/one-third-of-germans-want-the-deutsche-mark-back/
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:42:23 AM EDT
[#36]

EU may be in trouble....France threatens to pull out....


Apparently, that's what he said.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:45:23 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Next destination for the EU bus is FAIL.


Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of bureaucrats.

However, I bet the answer to the crisis will be a power grab from Brussels.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:45:27 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
You mean pantywaist Europeans can't play nice with one another?  Shocking!  


No they can't...one of the reasons they formed the EU.  They have fought wars on their own soil within living memory and have a long history of it beyond that.  They've burned themselves so many times that they've developed an irrational fear of using military force in ANY capacity because of this.  The EU is really an attempt to make sure no more wars are fought on European soil.  I don't see it being successful.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:50:39 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Quoted:
You mean pantywaist Europeans can't play nice with one another?  Shocking!  


Not when they lose their rag they're not.  

I have always found the European post-war pacifist illusion amusing, denial ain't just a river Hans.



Indeed.  They fear themselves, actually, because they damned well know what they're capable of.  They go to great lengths, for example, to be "open minded" towards the influx of islamic immigrants.  That will last until Europe's patience is broken, and then the knives will come out.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:58:39 AM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
The real question I have is this:  Lincoln fought a war to keep the United States intact - would the EU and other nations in the Union do the same?

Would France be ALLOWED to withdraw?  Or is this just a monetary thing?


Monetary thing as in Monetary Union?  I believe so

Link Posted: 5/14/2010 6:59:01 AM EDT
[#41]
haha! I hope it all breaks completely apart.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 7:16:54 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
You mean pantywaist Europeans can't play nice with one another?  Shocking!  


Not when they lose their rag they're not.  

I have always found the European post-war pacifist illusion amusing, denial ain't just a river Hans.



Indeed.  They fear themselves, actually, because they damned well know what they're capable of.  They go to great lengths, for example, to be "open minded" towards the influx of islamic immigrants.  That will last until Europe's patience is broken, and then the knives will come out.




The Balkans showed how 'open minded' Europeans really are.

'Diversity' and 'multiculturalism' are Band-Aids trying to cover up what Europeans know they really are and really capable of.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 7:17:15 AM EDT
[#43]
Dow is down 178.....    They aren't liking this.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 7:24:20 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
The party's over


If dow does not take a 150 pt. dip there is serious manipulation and its a fraud.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 7:24:51 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Next destination for the EU bus is FAIL.


Is Ireland next ?
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 7:25:06 AM EDT
[#46]
-204 and dropping, PPT on standby.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 7:26:42 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Greece is going to default eventually and the Germans are going to be beyond pissed when Portugal etc. belly up to the trough.  Merkel's party already took losses in one election over the bailout, losing their majority in one house of the legislature, trying to push another doomed loan is not going to go over well at all.  Whether Sarkozy bails out or not I can't say, but the Germans are reaching their limit politically.


German voters are fucking retarded-the SPD, Greens, etc. would have no problem spending German taxpayer money on a bailout.
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 7:27:21 AM EDT
[#48]
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 7:28:34 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Next destination for the EU bus is FAIL.


Is Ireland next ?




No, Ireland has bitten deep on the austerity bullet, very deeply.

Spain and Portugal are the next problems.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LDE6131GW.htm
Link Posted: 5/14/2010 7:29:57 AM EDT
[#50]
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