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Posted: 5/28/2015 10:47:00 PM EDT
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what kind of gun? Is the grip just not very textured? I have this problem when I shoot gen2 & gen3 Glocks, but not gen4 thanks to the texture
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Posted: 5/29/2015 1:58:38 AM EDT
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This is not GD...VA-gunnut
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:22:51 AM EDT
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I think I may have found the answer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylh4DyMADRU
That guy is recommending a grip wherein you push forward with your strong hand and pull backward with your support hand. I think that was the piece of the pistol grip I was missing. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:24:34 AM EDT
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Sig 1911. The texturing is aggressive, so I don't believe that to be the cause of my problem. I see your point, though.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:26:10 AM EDT
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You might try holding it like a man to work up to that you can do some manual labor or go to a gym , also add meat to your diet. Thanks sunshine. And if I need advice on buying a lifted truck or a mazda miata I'll make sure to PM you. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 4:46:32 AM EDT
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You might try holding it like a man to work up to that you can do some manual labor or go to a gym , also add meat to your diet. This isn't GD. Don't you have some homework to do, son? OP if you're shooting both thumbs forward(which u should be) try rolling your support hand forward making your knuckles point downward.. in other words, choke up on your strong hand with your support hand. this should tighten up your wrist and perhaps prevent excessive movement.. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 7:55:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think I may have found the answer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylh4DyMADRU That guy is recommending a grip wherein you push forward with your strong hand and pull backward with your support hand. I think that was the piece of the pistol grip I was missing. That's a garbage technique. Pinch the gun laterally. Don't do the old weaver-esque push/pull.  |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 11:16:48 AM EDT
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+1 to wtturn's reply.
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Posted: 5/30/2015 1:32:39 AM EDT
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Thank you all for your feedback this was a significant help.
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Posted: 5/30/2015 1:35:22 PM EDT
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When I hold the gun, my elbows point down.
I try to rotate them outward, and make them point up. It sucks the first few times you do it, but do it enough and the muscles will adapt. This actions makes your hands clamp inward. (May have been on the video, I cant see it. No wifi) |
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Posted: 6/11/2015 7:35:28 PM EDT
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I understand it's not "under recoil", but.....
Dry fire, dry fire, dry fire!!!! Train your hands to stay in place. It's not the equipment, it's the operator. |
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Posted: 6/21/2015 2:18:10 AM EDT
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I understand it's not "under recoil", but..... Dry fire, dry fire, dry fire!!!! Train your hands to stay in place. It's not the equipment, it's the operator. Thanks. I have been training with the advice I received from you guys here and have had no further problems with this. I never figured it was equipment. I knew it was something I was doing wrong. |
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Posted: 9/18/2015 5:14:02 PM EDT
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I just tried some of the tips mentioned today and it helped some.
Glock 19 lefty here. My biggest issue is keeping my support thumb from bouncing around after every shot. |
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Posted: 10/5/2015 5:16:59 AM EDT
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That's a garbage technique. Pinch the gun laterally. Don't do the old weaver-esque push/pull.  http://youtu.be/45QhpvY9LZc
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I think I may have found the answer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylh4DyMADRU That guy is recommending a grip wherein you push forward with your strong hand and pull backward with your support hand. I think that was the piece of the pistol grip I was missing. That's a garbage technique. Pinch the gun laterally. Don't do the old weaver-esque push/pull. http://youtu.be/45QhpvY9LZc
You're wrong- each person will have a slightly different grip due to size of hands, fingers, grip strength, and the list can go on and on. Isometric pressure is a great way to stabilize the pistol and makes tight double taps happen very easily |
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Posted: 10/5/2015 10:30:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're wrong- each person will have a slightly different grip due to size of hands, fingers, grip strength, and the list can go on and on. Isometric pressure is a great way to stabilize the pistol and makes tight double taps happen very easily Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think I may have found the answer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylh4DyMADRU That guy is recommending a grip wherein you push forward with your strong hand and pull backward with your support hand. I think that was the piece of the pistol grip I was missing. That's a garbage technique. Pinch the gun laterally. Don't do the old weaver-esque push/pull. http://youtu.be/45QhpvY9LZcYou're wrong- each person will have a slightly different grip due to size of hands, fingers, grip strength, and the list can go on and on. Isometric pressure is a great way to stabilize the pistol and makes tight double taps happen very easily If I'm wrong, then Jerry's wrong too.  Start at 4:00 lol @ "double taps" |
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Posted: 10/5/2015 10:47:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think I may have found the answer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylh4DyMADRU That guy is recommending a grip wherein you push forward with your strong hand and pull backward with your support hand. I think that was the piece of the pistol grip I was missing. That's what I came here to post. |
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Posted: 10/5/2015 6:51:57 PM EDT
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If I'm wrong, then Jerry's wrong too.
Start at 4:00 http://youtu.be/ChSazF41q-s
lol @ "double taps" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think I may have found the answer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylh4DyMADRU That guy is recommending a grip wherein you push forward with your strong hand and pull backward with your support hand. I think that was the piece of the pistol grip I was missing. That's a garbage technique. Pinch the gun laterally. Don't do the old weaver-esque push/pull. http://youtu.be/45QhpvY9LZc
You're wrong- each person will have a slightly different grip due to size of hands, fingers, grip strength, and the list can go on and on. Isometric pressure is a great way to stabilize the pistol and makes tight double taps happen very easily If I'm wrong, then Jerry's wrong too.
Start at 4:00 http://youtu.be/ChSazF41q-s
lol @ "double taps" Never mind !!!! you got me my friend and I have no idea what I'm talking about 
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Posted: 10/5/2015 10:37:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Never mind !!!! you got me my friend and I have no idea what I'm talking about Please don't take this the wrong way, as I don't intend it as a slam, but why are you dispensing advice in the training section if you have no idea what you're talking about? This- the technique of shooting- is serious business and should be treated as such, IMO. Misinformation could at best derail someone's growth as a shooter and at worst could get somebody killed. Please treat this kind of forum seriously and leave the BS in GD. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 4:49:34 AM EDT
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Please don't take this the wrong way, as I don't intend it as a slam, but why are you dispensing advice in the training section if you have no idea what you're talking about? This- the technique of shooting- is serious business and should be treated as such, IMO. Misinformation could at best derail someone's growth as a shooter and at worst could get somebody killed. Please treat this kind of forum seriously and leave the BS in GD. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never mind !!!! you got me my friend and I have no idea what I'm talking about
Please don't take this the wrong way, as I don't intend it as a slam, but why are you dispensing advice in the training section if you have no idea what you're talking about? This- the technique of shooting- is serious business and should be treated as such, IMO. Misinformation could at best derail someone's growth as a shooter and at worst could get somebody killed. Please treat this kind of forum seriously and leave the BS in GD. Because I have a lot of training under my belt from some of the best this country has to offer my friend. Any type of training one does from training to fight to training to shoot never has a one size fits all. Take the example of Jerry you posted. He is a great shooter but a freak of nature. I'll never shoot like him nor will you or any one else for that matter. What you said was wrong and anyone with any experience can argue that point. I didn't take what you said as a slam just incorrect information 
Edit- Ahh my friend you think I shoot a weaver stance ? - after I watched Jerry again which he is unreal and have seen this video many times. I shoot isosceles as I can't control my firearm in the Weaver stance. But I still apply isometric pressure when I present my firearm. This method is the best for me when firing multiple rounds on target and trying to manage the recoil of my pistol. I have found other methods do not work well for me. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 8:58:16 AM EDT
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Sorry to get sidetracked OP- but the best thing is to go out and try these techniques at the range and see which ones work for you and which ones don't. Give us a report back on what you find works best for you.
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Posted: 10/22/2015 8:04:49 PM EDT
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That's a garbage technique. Pinch the gun laterally. Don't do the old weaver-esque push/pull. http://youtu.be/45QhpvY9LZc
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I think I may have found the answer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylh4DyMADRU That guy is recommending a grip wherein you push forward with your strong hand and pull backward with your support hand. I think that was the piece of the pistol grip I was missing. That's a garbage technique. Pinch the gun laterally. Don't do the old weaver-esque push/pull. http://youtu.be/45QhpvY9LZc
I watched this video last night and today out at the range I played with my grip and really pinch gripped the pistol. With the pinch grip and elbows out instead of down, the pistol came back on target almost on its own. With my grip, the one I have been using I had to find the sights and bring them back on target manually. It did feel weird and uncomfortable but I think after a few thousand rounds I should be able to do it without thinking. |
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Posted: 10/22/2015 8:36:13 PM EDT
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That's a garbage technique. Pinch the gun laterally. Don't do the old weaver-esque push/pull. http://youtu.be/45QhpvY9LZc
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I think I may have found the answer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylh4DyMADRU That guy is recommending a grip wherein you push forward with your strong hand and pull backward with your support hand. I think that was the piece of the pistol grip I was missing. That's a garbage technique. Pinch the gun laterally. Don't do the old weaver-esque push/pull. http://youtu.be/45QhpvY9LZc
This is good advice. ETA: And before I get called out, this is what I teach new shooters to do. It will improve you're shooting with repetition. |
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Posted: 10/29/2015 4:55:31 AM EDT
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This is good advice. ETA: And before I get called out, this is what I teach new shooters to do. It will improve you're shooting with repetition. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think I may have found the answer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylh4DyMADRU That guy is recommending a grip wherein you push forward with your strong hand and pull backward with your support hand. I think that was the piece of the pistol grip I was missing. That's a garbage technique. Pinch the gun laterally. Don't do the old weaver-esque push/pull. http://youtu.be/45QhpvY9LZc
This is good advice. ETA: And before I get called out, this is what I teach new shooters to do. It will improve you're shooting with repetition. Travis Haley teaches this way as well. Never worked for me but I noticed when I roll my non support wrist over to lock it - I naturally apply isometric pressure between my two hands without even having to think about it. Some people teach to actually roll your shoulders toward your neck slightly to apply force that pinches the pistol. Never worked for me either . Did we ever hear back from the OP ?
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