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Posted: 5/20/2010 5:00:53 PM EDT
I am buying this steel target from Wideners tomorrow.
http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8807&dir=16|49|890 Trying to do the steel target thing on the cheap. Need some help on some stand ideas. Pics would be helpful. Thanks! |
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Inquiring minds want to know. |
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find you a nice real estate sign in the next neighbor hood down the street
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Permanent install or something you can transport easily?
Rebar bent into a squared off "C" can be pushed into the ground, unless its really hard or rocky. Hardware store shackels to hang the plate. |
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Unless you are looking to create a mount that will be permanent and last for years (or a dozen direct hits) you should build it out of 2x4 lumber and hang the steel on rope. Hang it off the front of the stand so that splash coming off the plane of the target (at rest) won't hit the wood or rope. I have run many classes/events shooting thousands of rounds at steel, and wood + rope is the way to go: cheap, strong, light-weight, soaks as many hits as anything, doesn't get sharp edges when damaged... Sounds too simple but it just works well. If this is for permanent installation then you might want to use chain, but the only advantage I've ever found for steel is that it isn't weakened by sunlight the way rope will be over time. Keep some extra carriage bolts, nuts, and washers around ~it's not that uncommon for someone to hit a bolt straight-on and ruin it. Best of luck. . |
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Ill have to post pictures of mine I built sometime for ya, but here are the materials
(1) 14''Wx30''L AR500 3/8'' steel sheet (2) Climbing Carabiner latches with small chains hooked on them (1) 3' 2x4 peice of wood with screw in hooks to attach the metal and target to let hang and swing (4) 5' rebar sticks for legs Thats pretty much it. I drilled 2 holes in the top corners of the steel, hooked in the carabiners and hung the chains to the hooks on the wood. I drilled 4 angeled holes in the 2x4 so I could space out the legs and make them look like /\/\ or something along that design. Close to 500+ rounds of .223, and 100 rounds of 7.62x54r and you can barely tell its been hit. When the bullet hits the steel and it swings back, it throws the casing down in to the ground eliminating a chance of richochet. |
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Awesome info
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no love for this info?
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"Fill your hand, you son-of-a-bitch!" - Rooster Cogburn
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Originally Posted By luv_the_huskers:
no love for this info? It is good info but for the cost of THESE I would rather buy it all together and not have to worry about having to use chains and rig my own stand. |
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I love this thread
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"Fill your hand, you son-of-a-bitch!" - Rooster Cogburn
It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived. - General George S. Patton, Jr Thanks brundoggie |
Originally Posted By ander254:
find you a nice real estate sign in the next neighbor hood down the street That is what I use. Just hang the target from the top with chain. Works great, well until I shot the chain. |
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We welded a rebar stand together and weld a piece of pipe to a steel plate. The top piece of rebar is slid into the pipe and the legs are welded on. This let's the steel plate hand and it a really tough stand. I will try and post so pictures soon. They are at my ranch
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I made 4 target stands using old fence posts and lots of nails. then I hung the targets up with twine in such a way that they were angled.
When I needed the targets to be higher (so I could see them over a fence) I knocked over a bail of hay and put the target stand on top of that. It worked well I could move the bail anywhere I needed it with a tractor and just put the target stand on top of it. |
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Old Timer-Just Cause, Desert Storm, Restore Hope
KY, USA
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Appreciate the original post is over a year old, but the topic is obviously still relevant!
In terms of Steel Targets, some things to consider, Bullet Splatter - when the bullet hits the steel it turns into a fan of fine metal particles that will shred anything other than very hard steel. If you use wood or plastic to make any part of your stand that runs inline with the steel target it can get cut into shreds in very little time! I have seen a 2"x4" cut to the point of failure with less than 50 rounds of impact on the target from the splatter. Chain / Shackles for Hanging - this is a very common practice, but unless you are using very large hardened hardware, which are way too expensive, then a single round impact on the chain can take it out of action. The chain can handle the bullet splatter, but it can't take many direct hits, so it can be a factor if missing the target is going to be common practice. I have tried about everything, the best that I have found so far, Old Fire Hose, Heavy Straps, or Old Conveyor Belt - assuming they are of adequate strength and thickness, these materials can take hundreds if not thousands of bullet impacts without failure. We have multiple first hand examples where a 1 3/4" Fire Hose has had hundreds of hits and is still holding the target in place. Key to making it last is protecting it from the bullet splatter by slightly canting the steel plate at an angle. This way the bullet splatter does not come off the top of the plate and into the straps holding it. We accomplish this by placing a small piece of wood or steel between the plate and hose when we mount them, this kicks the top of the plate out and angles the bottom of the target in. Rebar & Bracket - we have been using rebar for legs and cross braces in conjunction with a metal pipe bracket to hold them together. The rebar can easily handle the bullet splatter, and can in some cases take a bullet impact without failure. If a leg or cross brace does get cut, it is very easy, quick, and cheap to replace. There are a number of people selling these brackets, and they are pretty easy to make on your own if you any fabrication skills. Some examples of what I am talking about: A long range shooter who makes & sells brackets http://www.acetargets.com/ Best of Luck, M Richardson |
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