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Posted: 2/21/2014 11:30:43 AM EDT
IMNSHO, there ought to be a competitive shooting sport somewhere between the rifle part of 3-Gun and CMP/NRA High Power. Take 3-Gun, strip out all the pistoley and shotgunny parts where you run around knocking over short range poppers or putting holes in cardboard targets with either pistols and jazz hands painted on them. Boil it down to just the 50m-500m reactive rifle targets.  

I guess a little foot work is fine since most people think "getting off the x" is, like, totally a thing you ought to be doing all the time, but honestly most of the movement should be moving between and getting into various field positions more or less ala HP.  It ought to be less dynamic than the CQB/HSLD close range carbine shooting you do in 3-gun, but not as stationary as a sniper/benchrest/HP match. From the HP end, strip out all the fancy gear such as shooting jackets/gloves/scopes/carts/mats. Street clothes or BDUs only. Add in the option of modern optics, but nix the match space rifle bullshit. It's got to be a rifle you could reasonably and practically expect to use in a field situation off the range. Find some way of rewarding good accuracy above basic time plus scoring.  I suppose this would end up looking a lot like modern US Army rifle qualification, but that would probably require very expensive electronic/pneumatic popup targets such as those made by SUIS.   Ideally, you could score points based not merely hitting the target at all, but on WHERE on the target you hit (ala USPSA/IDPA) but instead of a static cardboard target, you could get a moving and reactive silhouette.  There are such reactive targets at some public ranges (like the RWVA home range in Ramseur, NC) but there aren't that many others that I know of.  Still, you'd think you could find a way to emulate this somehow with cheaper electronic/acoustic steel target scoring systems.

I've seen some rifle only 3gun style matches out there but it seems to be more like either a CQB HSLD tacticool carbine competition or a slightly sped up sniper course.  An I off base here?  Anyone else see a demand for such a shooting discipline/competition?
Link Posted: 2/24/2014 10:33:35 PM EDT
[#1]
Nobody?
Link Posted: 5/9/2014 5:31:26 PM EDT
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Sounds like you want to set up a defensive carbine match.

Shoot what you bring for gear and guns, use the full size of your range from say 200 yards to 2 yards for targets and stages, proper use of cover required, and score 2 or 3 hits in the zero required to neutralize the target.

Your not crazy lots of clubs do that.
Link Posted: 8/4/2014 12:53:11 AM EDT
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http://www.uscarbineassociation.com
Link Posted: 8/15/2014 3:58:39 PM EDT
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I'm looking for something more along these lines, but in Texas:

http://www.gunsitehills.com/id14.html

I like the idea of a competition where one shoots practical rifles in practical gear but from fixed field positions (sitting, standing, prone) at moving/popup targets at random intervals from 100m-600m. No run-n-gun HSLD stuff or "gaming stages" with pre-stage walkthroughs. Just you, a rifle, and a bunch of popup/mover targets at various ranges that tests your ability to react to those targets with accurate fire and less on "getting off the X".
Link Posted: 8/16/2014 7:37:01 AM EDT
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I'm looking for something more along these lines, but in Texas:



http://www.gunsitehills.com/id14.html



I like the idea of a competition where one shoots practical rifles in practical gear but from fixed field positions (sitting, standing, prone) at moving/popup targets at random intervals from 100m-600m. No run-n-gun HSLD stuff or "gaming stages" with pre-stage walkthroughs. Just you, a rifle, and a bunch of popup/mover targets at various ranges that tests your ability to react to those targets with accurate fire and less on "getting off the X".
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Then get to camp Perry for the ORPA pop up shoot at the end of the month.  Exactly what you are looking for.
Link Posted: 8/20/2014 7:26:58 AM EDT
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I help run a small 2gun shooting club in MI, and shoot various other types of action shooting comps. I get what you're looking for. The closest thing I can think of is what NRA introduced within the last couple years; don't recall the name but it's like highpower attempting to baby-step into action shooting. I honestly think what you're looking for is so specialized, you'd have to start it up and run it yourself to see if there is enough interest to grow an organization around it. Which I doubt, sorry to say.

My club ACTS is 70% rifle 30% pistol, there are very good practical reasons we include regular pistol work in every match. But it's a balancing act; some guys want more pistol some want less. Sounds like you're on one end of that spectrum.
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