That it's a sad day when there is an "invitation only" match at the Nationals and that it is the wrong venue for Tuggle's game. At least it doesn't mess with the schedule... this time.

You may want to contact Trey Tuggle at the NRA to see if you can get a spot.

It reminds me of a hybid High Power/Bianchi Cup type COF. We'll see if it catches on. I think it would be a fun thing to do to get young shooters into competing, but after shooting major 3 gun matches I see this COF more as practice.




Under the circumstances I can understand the invitation only format for this year.

Well, I guess from the lack of interest in a thread on the National Defense Match, there is little to no interest in this match.

Is it because it is not High Power and it is not 3 Gun, so neither group is interested?


When I first heard about this match at Perry, I thought the NRA/CMP would utilize the pop-up targets and put a really cool match together, something like the Friends of Perry do.

I sent Trey an email and requested an invitation. We'll see how it goes.

To clarify.

Its not the format I have issues with.

I am interested to see how the match is run in the interest of time. I see the NRA has 2 days scheduled to run 60 shooters through it. 3 gun match directors have to keep stage scoring and re-set times in mind when designing stages. The fact that the NDM is individually timed will be a departure from what most NRA/CMP match directors are used to.

If it was me, I would have the maximum number of shooters on the line at the prescribed range, each with there own target. One scorer and one RO with a timer would go from one shooter to the next, timing them and recording the time. After everyone is done with that range, all the targets would be scored and pasted. That is still 5 trips to score and paste for a 100 yard match and 9 trips to score and paste for a 500 yard match.

Where this would get tricky is the barricade. If the club only has one, it would have to be moved for every shooter.

Anyway, for the NDM to catch on, it can't take all day to run 20 shooters through it.

Chris,
If you want to work the bugs out of a match the worst time is during a national championship. If the idea is to work the bugs out run some regionals at Perry. That will work the bugs out.

I got it that NRA is trying to bring in a bigger crew. I think getting shooters on the line is a great thing. I think its a absolutely terrible idea to have a invitation only match at Nationals. Again 100 plus years of tradition, have made the matches what they are, great. You get all sorts of shooters on the line military civilian young and old. This match does not allow for it. That is my beef. I have shoot plenty of run and gun in my time so dont think I am a HP shooter who is hating. I am a traditionalist that would like to see Camp Perry continue to be open to all.

Erik



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Chris Cerino's son, a freshman high school student, scored first place in the Optics Divisions and 5th place overall. This was a huge success considering he was shooting against national champions.

Ian from topshot season 1 took overall 1st i believe

We were originally going to shoot the entire course of fire on Saturday and again on Sunday. But, after getting a little bit of a late start and a few delays due to the electronic targets and some shooters cross-firing on the wrong target we had to call it a day on Saturday after the 200 yard stage. On Sunday morning, we shot the 300 and 400, but had to evacuate the range after getting set up for 500 due to the storm. I joked w/ some of the other guys that this was the "bugout" portion of the match designed to test our readiness.


The electronic targets were awesome- but there were some delays with verifying everything was working properly. FNH USA, Geissele, and all the other sponsors were great to the competitors. There were quite a few juniors at the match, and they looked like they had a great time- especially Colton Cerino who won the Tactical divison as noted above. Iain Harrison won Open, with Tommy Thacker in 2nd. Edward Altmeyer (I belive is his name) won Limited, I came in 2nd after making a bad wind call at 400. This was the first NRA match I've shot. They are serious about trigger weights. The first lower I took to have the trigger weighed did not make the 4 1/2# requirement and I sure wasn't going to shoot open w/ irons. I swapped out lowers, had it re-weighed, and after passing 4 1/2# we got started. I'm glad I took a spare lower....


I met a lot of new friends, and I think we talked enough 3 gun that Chris Cerino is now hooked even before he starts.

Can you give me a run down on how the course of fire went?

How many shooters on the line at a time? How many barricades? How hard will it be to score quickly without electronic targets? etc

I just can't imagine how this will flow smoothly enough to get 20 to 30 shooters through without taking all day.

3-gun at camp perry?

164 round two day match will NOT fly at my local club. There's just no way we can shut the range down for the entire weekend. Cramming it in to one long day will even be difficult. We get enough grief shutting the range down a half a day for our monthly IDPA shoot. I'll give NRA an "E" for effort but I'm not certain this will take off.