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 Solidgun 
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Posted: 5/7/2010 8:43:24 PM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT Do you just cycle and move on or should I follow my usual target shooting rules of aiming downrange and waiting before cycling? Thank you in advance. |
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Posted: 5/7/2010 9:27:27 PM
I had a fail to eject while shooting, and I just cleared the malf like normal under the timer and continued to shoot.
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aperdue
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Posted: 5/8/2010 11:30:10 AM
Tap Rack Bang
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echofivekilo
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Posted: 5/8/2010 3:16:10 PM
Originally Posted By aperdue:
Tap Rack Bang This. You're not going to have a delayed ignition or anything like that. (I assume that's why you usually wait before cycling the action.) If tap-rack-bang doesn't work then lock the slide back, pull the mag out, rack the slide a few times, then load and fire. You probably knew that already, but it bears repeating. A guy at our match today had a malfunction and kept trying tap-rack over and over unsuccessfully until someone yelled at him to take the mag out. |
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Posted: 5/8/2010 8:51:48 PM
Just as a follow up:
I had a FTF and I just cleared without missing a beat......AFTER CONFIRMING that it is okay to do so. Thanks everyone. |
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Posted: 5/29/2010 5:26:38 AM
At the matches I have been to they will expect you to clear it and continue. I have seen several shooters trying out 1911s that they had "customized" themselves, only to have multiple FTFs or failures to feed in a single stage. Makes you feel a little bad for them, though you have to wonder why they hadn't tested the gun/ammo/mags before the match.
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Posted: 10/13/2010 6:02:40 PM
Just be sure you have a feel for the difference between a failure to fire and a squib; that can get nasty...
Larry |
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FALARAK
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Posted: 10/16/2010 1:10:15 AM
I use a Glock, so I wouldnt know.
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Posted: 10/16/2010 8:40:22 AM
Originally Posted By FALARAK:
I use a Glock, so I wouldnt know. Keep thinking that way, even glocks go down |
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Posted: 10/16/2010 9:32:38 AM
And so it begins....again. |
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FALARAK
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Posted: 10/16/2010 11:37:51 AM
[Last Edit: 10/16/2010 11:52:19 AM by FALARAK]
Originally Posted By Gregory_K: Originally Posted By FALARAK: I use a Glock, so I wouldnt know. Keep thinking that way, even glocks go down It was a joke.  Yes, I have had 4 or 5 ammo related failures in my Glock. I know I should build some musle memory around tap-rack-bang, but my jerk-reaction response is always rack the slide and keep going. Thus far, that has always worked.... |
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YoungFrankenstien856
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Posted: 11/27/2010 6:11:54 PM
for some reason I keep bypassing the "TAP", instructor isn't happy with me.
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Posted: 11/30/2010 2:22:07 PM
I never do the tap either. If I know the mag is seater, Im not wasting the effort tapping it
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ALASKANFIRE
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Posted: 11/30/2010 2:40:01 PM
Originally Posted By Gregory_K:
Originally Posted By FALARAK:
I use a Glock, so I wouldnt know. Keep thinking that way, even glocks go down Yup Anyone that thinks a gun is foolproof hasnt been around much competition or shot a lot in general. I would be considered low volume compared to most of my friends and I have seen every gun go down |
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Posted: 3/28/2011 9:30:50 PM
Originally Posted By FALARAK:
I use an unmodified Glock, so I wouldnt know. That's a bit closer.
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Meta4
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Posted: 4/19/2011 12:48:49 PM
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
I would be considered low volume compared to most of my friends and I have seen every gun go down My Remington 870 was giving me trouble this weekend with some crappy Fiocchi shells. On a couple occasions, I had to place the stock on my thigh and use both hands on the pump to get it to eject a shell. You don't get much more reliable than a pump action shotgun, so failure certainly happen regardless of type/manufacturer/origin. |
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TwoBravo
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Posted: 4/28/2011 4:35:14 AM
I'm going to say my collection of unmodified stock Glock 19's have performed better than anything else I've used over the years. Any gun can fail though and that's why we all practice different failure drills. Using snap caps or even empty brass are some good training aids if you have a place to train with them.
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Posted: 5/23/2011 3:09:15 PM
IF you have to drop the mag keep in mind that it is the ONLY time a mag with ammo is allowed to hit the ground. I got a penalty for this at a match and didnt have a rule book handy to contest it. Looked it up later and I was right, you do not have to retain the mag while clearing a malfunction.
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Posted: 6/30/2011 9:45:18 PM
so... please forgive me for asking such a stupid question, but the "tap" of tap, rack, bang is bumping the mag into the mag well to ensure positive seating, then operating the slide for the rack?
just wondering. i've got a couple of really reliable 1911s, and have never had an issue with 'em, spaced cleaning one of 'em before a match couple of weeks ago, and had multiple FTEs, so i simply operated the slide to clear the jam and went back to shooting. also, i second the notion that it is foolish for one to take an untested firearm to a match. just about the only time you get looked down upon in our group. -tom |
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Posted: 7/1/2011 5:38:20 PM
Some shooters cuss while clearing a malfunction, some very creatively I might add.
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Gregory_K
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Posted: 8/4/2011 9:38:32 AM
Usally when my gun jams. I always eject the mag and shake. tap rack never works with the jams I have gotten.
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Posted: 12/1/2011 7:23:01 PM
It usually depends upon the type of misfire, but you can normally get away with racking the slide again to clear whatever was causing the problem, then getting right back into the stage. I've never had to drop the current mag, but can see it being an issue if you don't brush out your mags occasionally or when theyre covered in dirt/sh*t.
Just make sure your finger is outside of the trigger gaurd, or you could get DQ'd pretty quickly |
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Stephen7942
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Posted: 12/30/2011 2:27:04 AM
Originally Posted By aperdue:
Tap Rack Bang |
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Posted: 1/20/2012 2:32:41 PM
Originally Posted By Larry1096:
Just be sure you have a feel for the difference between a failure to fire and a squib; that can get nasty... Larry So even for a sqiuib load you guys recomend tap rack bang? Whenever i get a squib, I'll stop, clear weapon of mag and visible rounds, holster and go the the vehicle and pop the barrel out and make sure no bullet in barrel. I can def notice the difdrence berween squib fired round and FTF OR FTE. |
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ALASKANFIRE
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Posted: 1/20/2012 10:40:35 PM
Originally Posted By mouthpiece:
Originally Posted By Larry1096:
Just be sure you have a feel for the difference between a failure to fire and a squib; that can get nasty... Larry So even for a sqiuib load you guys recomend tap rack bang? Whenever i get a squib, I'll stop, clear weapon of mag and visible rounds, holster and go the the vehicle and pop the barrel out and make sure no bullet in barrel. I can def notice the difdrence berween squib fired round and FTF OR FTE. I dont think anyone would recommend that for a squib. He was saying no the difference so you dont try and do that with a squib |
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Posted: 1/24/2012 4:14:16 PM
Originally Posted By Gregory_K:
Originally Posted By FALARAK:
I use a Glock, so I wouldnt know. Keep thinking that way, even glocks go down I see a fair amount of Glock failures at every match. Everybody always says the same thing "Glocks do not usually do that". |
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