 AR15fan
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Posted: 6/14/2012 3:55:58 PM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT Can I use the Glock factory extened G22 magaines or would that bump me up into a race gun division? Thank in advance. I havent stayed on top of the rules book. |
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GarrettJ
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Posted: 6/14/2012 5:41:07 PM
You can use it in pretty much any division except Single-Stack and Revolver.
Mags can be downloaded to 10 for Production or L-10, but a 15-round mag isn't going to be as competitive in Limited or Open. You can put basepads on them to bring up the capacity to 20 or so. The factory 22-round mags are going to be too long to use in Limited, but will work in Open. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 9:26:27 AM
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Posted: 6/15/2012 11:31:40 PM
The most competitive division without buying new gear would be L-10 if you have at least 4 mags. You could also compete in production but you would still be scored minor even though you are shooting 40. If you handload you can reduce the power so it recoils like a 9mm.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 11:36:26 PM
Originally Posted By ziebart:
The most competitive division without buying new gear would be L-10 if you have at least 4 mags. You could also compete in production but you would still be scored minor even though you are shooting 40. If you handload you can reduce the power so it recoils like a 9mm. 40SW is "minor?" The 170Gn TCFMJ ammo i use was specifically marketed as making major. Did the ammo company scam me? |
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Posted: 6/16/2012 12:19:36 AM
There is no major in production. All are scored as minor.
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Posted: 6/16/2012 1:08:57 AM
Damn there are alot of divisions now. What ever happened to limited minor, limited major, open minor and open major? Why did they come up with so many new classes?
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Posted: 6/16/2012 8:03:57 AM
There is:
Open Limited Limited 10 (all the fun of Limited with 10rd restrictions for ban states) Production (geared toward new shooters with off-the-shelf equipment) Revolver Single Stack Major/Minor is based on the power of the projectile. You can shoot any division in either major or minor power factor, except Production, which is always minor. If you want to shoot 40 in minor and you reload, you can down-load your 40 loads to make a load that is just as soft as 9mm. If you only use factory ammo, you still have to make sure of the power factor, but it will probably be major, especially if you use Winchester White Box. For a Glock 22 with major ammo and 15rd mags, you should go to Limited 10 and declare major. |
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Posted: 6/17/2012 5:03:10 PM
Hate to nit pick but they are no more new classes, only new divisions. Divisions are what you shoot like open or limited. Classes are how good you are D, C, B, A, M, GM. Then you have categories like junior, senior, super senior, LEO/MIL.
The reason why there are new divisions is because of IDPA and IPSC. I am pretty sure they had a 'factory' gun division before USPSA did. Once USPSA saw IDPA's ranks swell with the stock divisions they had to add one as well. L-10 was added because of the 94 assault weapons ban, and now stays for people that want major but their mags won't hold 20 rounds. I am glad to have production it has probably the highest attendance at our matches then limited then open. Because every gun is scored as minor in production it makes it the playground for 9mm. Just like limited is for 40, and 38super is for open. Limiting the mags to 10 rounds forces good stage planing, and quick mag changes. I will also disagree that production is for new shooters. It is a challenging division even though the equipment costs can be less. Yes there is a case to be made that all the divisions limits the talent pool, but I think the benefits out way the drawbacks. |
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Posted: 6/21/2012 2:57:33 PM
Originally Posted By ziebart:
I will also disagree that production is for new shooters. It is a challenging division even though the equipment costs can be less. I agree, production is not neccesarily for new shooters, but it is geared for new shooters who have a basic set-up to come in and start shooting. Very challenging division with lots of great shooters, but your average joe can walk off the street with a G17 or M&P and a few mags and have a great time. |
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Posted: 6/21/2012 10:16:06 PM
Originally Posted By PKT1106:
Originally Posted By ziebart:
I will also disagree that production is for new shooters. It is a challenging division even though the equipment costs can be less. I agree, production is not neccesarily for new shooters, but it is geared for new shooters who have a basic set-up to come in and start shooting. Very challenging division with lots of great shooters, but your average joe can walk off the street with a G17 or M&P and a few mags and have a great time. From what I have seen, most new folks load to capacity and shoot limited minor (at least initially). |
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