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Beers78n9
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Posted: 9/6/2010 12:56:09 AM
I shot in my first 3 Gun competition a few weeks back and would really like to start competing more. I used
my 4'' XD 40SW and plan on using it for a while longer (need an auto shotgun first), plus it is my CCW and I had
to take the Crimson Trace off and dont want to keep taking off and on. I would like to get a dedicated pistol for
3 Gun. I'm thinking either a 5'' XD or 4.5'' XDM and can't decide between 9mm or 45ACP. Which is the better
choice for 3 Gun? I know that the 9mm is less expensive and I can carry more rounds, but is the 9mm usually
enough power to knock down plates on the first shot? What do moost of you guys shoot?
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Posted: 9/6/2010 1:16:57 AM
I shoot a Browning High Power and have no problems knocking over steel poppers at the local 3-gun match. The poppers are supposed to be calibrated with 9mm ammo so if you use factory loads, it shouldn't be a problem. I full frame, high capacity 9mm will work great for 3-gun. Just my $.02.
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Posted: 9/6/2010 3:17:25 AM
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IMA Tactical rules = 9mm (M&P Pro)
USPSA Tactical rules = .40S&W (STI Limited)
Heavy Metal Division = .45 (check the rules small print first - some only accept a 1911)

All 3 will knock down the steel just fine... steel is usually calibrated with a minor 9mm load.
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Posted: 9/6/2010 8:52:25 AM
Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga:
All 3 will knock down the steel just fine... steel is usually calibrated with a minor 9mm load.


If I did not have an Edge already I would go for a high capacity 9mm, A something like a Glock.

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Posted: 9/6/2010 9:31:31 AM
I recently went thru the process of researching and buying a pistol for 3 gun. Some service size pistols will work, like the Glock 17, but most like the Glock 34 and S&W M&P 9L or Pro. I like all of them. I chose the M&P Pro for several reasons.

1. I wanted a long slide. I already have a compact and a full size pistol. I didn't see the need for another full size, so that eliminated the G17.

2. Glocks are great guns, but they don't fit my hand. No knock on Glock, just a personal thing. The Glock 34 is ready to go. It would have probably been my choice if i was more comfortable with the grip.

3. The Pro is ready out of the box. With that said, the M&P 9L would have probably been fine out of the box for a beginner like me. Many pro owners add the Apex upgrades, but IMHO (a beginner's opinion) the pro has a very nice trigger. The F/O front sight takes getting used to, but i liked it the match saturday.

4. There are the STIs, but i dont see the need to spend that kind of cash just getting started. Besides i wanted a striker action pistol for 3 gun.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 7:37:41 AM
I shoot .40 S&W out of a Glock 35.

I shoot .40 because it's versatile. I load my own ammo and have a minor power factor load for USPSA production division and for 3 gun matches that don't recognize major power factor. I also have a hotter load that makes major for limited division and for any 3 gun matches where shooting major helps me on scoring.

When it comes to competitive shooting in general, .40 FTW for me, but only if you load your own ammo. Factory .40 ammo doesn't lend itself to shooting fast.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 11:35:29 PM
For matches without power factor requirements, I usually shoot a Para P18-9mm. With the 140mm mags, it holds 22+1.

For USPSA rule matches, I shoot a Para P14-45acp with 18+1. I don't own a 40 cal anything.
I also use the Para for HM and HMO where a 45 is often required, if the rules don't specify a single stack 1911.

If they do, it's my Springfield 1911.

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Posted: 9/9/2010 8:56:36 PM
I use a 45........Cause I'm new and it's what I have and can shoot it well. Which in my opinion for what its worth. Is what should be the determining factor. Use what you can shoot best. 45's do hit the plates harder and my clubs falling plate's sometimes take more than one hit from a 9 to fall. While at the same stage I've hit em with my 45. And had the one next to it fall as well. I also reload and find that loading for my 45 is easier than loading for my wife's 9.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 11:12:54 PM
I use a p-16 .40 for the few USPSA matches I shoot, and a CZ-75 SA in 9mm for the others.
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Posted: 9/10/2010 2:09:42 AM
My set-up:

G22 and G35. Load my own .40 to minor as mentioned above so the recoil is soft and shooting is fast. The .40 retains more energy that is needed for heavier steel that is used at some matches.

Good luck!
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Posted: 9/10/2010 11:56:08 AM
CZ 75 Tactical Sport in 9mm for non-USPSA matches
CZ 75 Tactical Sport in .40 for USPSA and Iron Man
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Posted: 9/24/2010 12:02:06 AM
The vast majority of what you shoot in 3 gun will work with a 9mm. Only exceptions are where there's a power factor or where there are MGM spinners (like at Ironman).
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Posted: 9/24/2010 1:18:55 PM
I use a Para 16-40 or the Glock 35 with a grip reduction.
Glock is nice to use when you have to dump your pistol. No safety to worry about.
But I do like the extra weight of the Para.
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Posted: 9/24/2010 1:22:54 PM
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Good for you shooting with your CCW piece. I would suggest you get the longer XD in the same caliber 9mm is fine- simplify your training!

I CCW a G19 and shoot it in pistol matches, I carry a G17 in 3 gun.
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Posted: 9/24/2010 2:16:52 PM
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9X19mm is generally the best pistol cartridge for 3 gun unless it is a USPSA match and power factors come into play OR as noted above the match you are attending has some issues with setting reactive targets heavy. At USPSA matches you'll want a .40.

9s are cheap, ready available, have low recoil, and offer high magazine capacity.

I rely on a CZ Tactical Sport 9mm customized by the CZ Custom Shop (thanks Angus) or a CZ SP01 9mm also done up by CZ Custom Shop. Before that I was using an STI .38 Super which was a pain. It is a fantastic gun but the Super is just so much more costly to run. Brass is made of gold.

That being said, a hi cap .40 is also a very competitive system but there is NO reason to shoot a .45 unless you are competing in a division which requires it.

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Posted: 9/24/2010 3:01:38 PM
Currently CCW and shoot a G19, mainly b/c it is the only hand gun i own.

Want to get a G17 sometime down the road.
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Posted: 9/24/2010 5:01:59 PM
Originally Posted By biga9999:
Currently CCW and shoot a G19, mainly b/c it is the only hand gun i own.

Want to get a G17 sometime down the road.


Don't forget about the G34.
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Posted: 9/24/2010 7:28:27 PM
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Does the G34 fit in a G17 holster?

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Posted: 9/25/2010 12:11:00 PM
Yep for the most part. Just depends on the holster (i.e. if there's anything on the bottom for covering the muzzle.

I used to use a cheap Blackhawk holster for a G17 on my G34 and did more than a little well with it.

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Posted: 9/25/2010 1:39:35 PM
Thanks Rich.

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Posted: 9/29/2010 9:27:19 AM
Springfield xd or m or a glock in 9 mm.
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Posted: 10/7/2010 8:20:12 PM
G19 or SA 1911
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Posted: 10/8/2010 12:24:45 PM
No Love for the Glock 17L?
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Posted: 10/18/2010 4:24:14 PM

Originally Posted By DCMoney:
No Love for the Glock 17L?

They're getting harder and harder to come by. Here in CA for instance, since they are no longer on the "Safe Handgun Roster", unless someone already owns it in state and is willing to sell and do a PPT, you can't purchase one from a store or have one sent in from out of state.
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Posted: 10/18/2010 9:52:22 PM
Originally Posted By DCMoney:
No Love for the Glock 17L?


They're rare, and most people who shoot 3 gun also shoot USPSA and/or IDPA, and the 17L doesn't really have a home in either of those games.
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Posted: 10/19/2010 2:55:48 PM
I dont think the 17L fits in the box. But i love my G34!
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