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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:05:24 PM EDT
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Glad you had fun and learned something.
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:09:14 PM EDT
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This really needs to get moved to GD.
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:10:18 PM EDT
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yes, multiple cover was used as well as immediately attending to a hit team member whom has suffered a femoral artery hit as did Jay Hurt in the incident to which you are alluding.
hope I never have to save you brother |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:23:12 PM EDT
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Was the parking brake set or nah?
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:42:25 PM EDT
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This will not go well.
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Posted: 4/22/2017 7:01:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/22/2017 7:37:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/22/2017 8:28:36 PM EDT
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"transitioning from rifle to pistol back to rifle among other drills"
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Posted: 4/22/2017 8:33:14 PM EDT
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"transitioning from rifle to pistol back to rifle among other drills" Did you engage the rifle's safety or did you only have one round in the rifle to start the drill? |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 8:38:09 PM EDT
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In on one.
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Posted: 4/22/2017 8:40:17 PM EDT
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1st post.... Yeah. You're not a shill at all.
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Posted: 4/22/2017 8:42:06 PM EDT
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IN, you know because of first post, Yeager and all.
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Posted: 4/22/2017 8:48:05 PM EDT
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1st post.... Yeah. You're not a shill at all. Just sharing my experience, I am an M14 shooter, I bought the Spike's Crusader just for this course, it is my 1st AR15 and found it to be preferable both in weight and cartridge affordability. This is an AR forum yes? This sub-content area is for General Training discussions yes? This was my experience, thought some folks might benefit from a shooter's perspective. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 11:18:49 PM EDT
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Thanks for the welcome. Just sharing my experience, I am an M14 shooter, I bought the Spike's Crusader just for this course, it is my 1st AR15 and found it to be preferable both in weight and cartridge affordability. This is an AR forum yes? This sub-content area is for General Training discussions yes? This was my experience, thought some folks might benefit from a shooter's perspective. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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1st post.... Yeah. You're not a shill at all. Just sharing my experience, I am an M14 shooter, I bought the Spike's Crusader just for this course, it is my 1st AR15 and found it to be preferable both in weight and cartridge affordability. This is an AR forum yes? This sub-content area is for General Training discussions yes? This was my experience, thought some folks might benefit from a shooter's perspective. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 1:39:05 AM EDT
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INSTRUCTORS:Tactical Response - Don Numbers, Jay Gibson, Tim Morse and James Yeager. Fighting rifle takes a student from understanding the basic safety rules of operating a rifle to holding your rifle, use of a sling, drawing your rifle, loading, unloading, reloading, clearing malfunctions, and basic maneuvering while operating your rifle in a simulated fight scenario. Progresses into moving while shooting, concealment vs cover, shooting from cover, shooting from various positions (fetal, prone, kneeling, standing, walking forward, backwards, sideways, box drills, etc.), transitioning from rifle to pistol back to rifle among other drills. Day two is a continuation of instruction at the range. A quick recap of what you learned the day before is covered before and more advanced drills are conducted. The second half of the day is spent working in teams. Understanding how to communicate effectively, bounding / leap frogging, moving, laying down cover fire, etc. are taught as an introduction to the Advanced Fighting Rifle class which utilizes the same techniques only on a more advanced and chaotic level. Day 2 of the Fighting Rifle course was an AMAZING . MY GEAR:Glock 19, Blackpoint OWB Holster,double-mag holster, 9mm Fed, Spike’s Crusader, Sight Mark Wolverine Red Dot, Vickers 2-point sling, Blue-Force 10-speed Chest Rig, 2nd AmendMags , Ear and eye pro, Shamagh, standard issue knee-pads, Fed .556. SUMMARY:We started as 30 strangers and melded into a team. In exhaustion we remained effective and safe as a group. In live fire training with people everywhere, at many angles and vantage points made contact, peeled off, we got behind cover, put down effective fire (out to 250 yards), moved by bounds, communicated, covered each other, rescued our wounded and attended to them medically and got out of dodge. We got WAY MORE than we paid for. GO TAKE THIS CLASS NOW WHILE YOU CAN. Sorry, But I'm calling Bullshit.. A bunch of strangers with varying degree's of experience do not come together and "Meld" as a team during two days of anything... let alone a rifle class (especially the way TR runs them) and you posting this as your first post...
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Posted: 4/23/2017 2:09:57 AM EDT
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Language is suspect, did you all employ synergy also?
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Posted: 4/23/2017 7:30:08 AM EDT
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You mentioned the Yeager ditch incident, so you're not clueless about his reputation - here or elsewhere. So are you playing dumb for our benefit? Not sure I understand the inference... |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 7:41:00 AM EDT
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[/size=6] Sorry, But I'm calling Bullshit.. A bunch of strangers with varying degree's of experience do not come together and "Meld" as a team during two days of anything... let alone a rifle class (especially the way TR runs them) and you posting this as your first post... I don't understand the malevolence. I understand there are James Yeager and TC haters, that is fine, but this was my experience and I am sharing it with this community as my first post. Is that reason and evidence of lying (bullshit as you call it), or being a shill or anything other than my sincere effort to share some of the class within the 2000 words allowed me? We are shooters. We believe in a common freedom beyond most folk's understanding. Training is essential to that, April 19 is a reminder of our need to be armed ready and able to defend ourselves. All hate for James Yeager aside perhaps somebody now has a better understanding of what the 4 day class I took was all about. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 7:45:20 AM EDT
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Playing dumb? By posting a review of the class? Not sure I understand the inference... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You mentioned the Yeager ditch incident, so you're not clueless about his reputation - here or elsewhere. So are you playing dumb for our benefit? Not sure I understand the inference... We all know that JY and anyone associated with him are complete idiots. On top of that, your original post sounds like it was written by an advertising agency. I would be embarrassed to tell anyone I took the class. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 8:09:21 AM EDT
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You can't convince us of anything. We all know that JY and anyone associated with him are complete idiots. On top of that, your original post sounds like it was written by an advertising agency. I would be embarrassed to tell anyone I took the class. Okay, you hate the way I wrote it, fine. Do you routinely snap into a thread just to vomit your disdain for the writing style? In light of your remonstrance, training would seem to be the least of your embarrassments. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 8:31:16 AM EDT
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Odd first post.
No personal intro, just a class listing, then some crap statement about becoming a team. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 8:44:50 AM EDT
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In on this
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Posted: 4/23/2017 11:19:53 AM EDT
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Playing dumb? By posting a review of the class? Not sure I understand the inference... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You mentioned the Yeager ditch incident, so you're not clueless about his reputation - here or elsewhere. So are you playing dumb for our benefit? Not sure I understand the inference... Please. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 11:31:22 AM EDT
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How many rounds do you think you shot in the class?
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Posted: 4/23/2017 11:43:50 AM EDT
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You are clearly aware James is controversial, and yet you're surprised at the level of suspicion and light trolling you're getting after posting a review of his class with such glowing, formulaic language that it sounds like it comes right from a brochure as your first post on the site? Please. As to it being my first post, what is the big deal? I had to post about something the first time. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 11:45:05 AM EDT
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How many rounds do you think you shot in the class? |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 11:48:17 AM EDT
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Through both classes we shot about 5,000 rnds of .556 and 300-400 rnds of 9mm. Mind you that was 2 people over the course of 4 days. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How many rounds do you think you shot in the class? 
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Posted: 4/23/2017 12:10:07 PM EDT
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In.
Needs to be moved to GD so we don't screw things up. Shootsteel blocked me on Facebook for calling him Buck Angel |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 12:29:20 PM EDT
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Got any brass you want to sell really cheap? |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 12:36:26 PM EDT
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You can't convince us of anything. We all know that JY and anyone associated with him are complete idiots. On top of that, your original post sounds like it was written by an advertising agency. I would be embarrassed to tell anyone I took the class. For the record, I have attended a couple of courses led by Yeager. Yes, he is controversial and all that, but, why are we kicking this guy simply for talking about a class he attended? We all lament how folks need to get some training and such, and here is a guy who did just that. Yes, you may not like who he trained with, but, J.H.C...there is no need to just stomp on him like that. Get a grip, you all know better and should act accordingly. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 12:53:44 PM EDT
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INSTRUCTORS:Tactical Response - Don Numbers, Jay Gibson, Tim Morse and James Yeager. Fighting rifle takes a student from understanding the basic safety rules of operating a rifle to holding your rifle, use of a sling, drawing your rifle, loading, unloading, reloading, clearing malfunctions, and basic maneuvering while operating your rifle in a simulated fight scenario. Progresses into moving while shooting, concealment vs cover, shooting from cover, shooting from various positions (fetal, prone, kneeling, standing, walking forward, backwards, sideways, box drills, etc.), transitioning from rifle to pistol back to rifle among other drills. Day two is a continuation of instruction at the range. A quick recap of what you learned the day before is covered before and more advanced drills are conducted. The second half of the day is spent working in teams. Understanding how to communicate effectively, bounding / leap frogging, moving, laying down cover fire, etc. are taught as an introduction to the Advanced Fighting Rifle class which utilizes the same techniques only on a more advanced and chaotic level. Day 2 of the Fighting Rifle course was an AMAZING . MY GEAR:Glock 19, Blackpoint OWB Holster,double-mag holster, 9mm Fed, Spike’s Crusader, Sight Mark Wolverine Red Dot, Vickers 2-point sling, Blue-Force 10-speed Chest Rig, 2nd AmendMags , Ear and eye pro, Shamagh, standard issue knee-pads, Fed .556. SUMMARY:We started as 30 strangers and melded into a team. In exhaustion we remained effective and safe as a group. In live fire training with people everywhere, at many angles and vantage points made contact, peeled off, we got behind cover, put down effective fire (out to 250 yards), moved by bounds, communicated, covered each other, rescued our wounded and attended to them medically and got out of dodge. We got WAY MORE than we paid for. GO TAKE THIS CLASS NOW WHILE YOU CAN. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Yeager can be (and usually is) a tool. Jay Gibson is the most qualified and humble guy they have on staff over there. He's a solid dude. I wish he'd do his own thing and break from Yeager but he probably never will. Ignore the haters. Yes, Yeager is a tool. Yes, there are better courses out there. This is arfcom. Many of the guys posting are too fat and lazy to actually go outside and shoot. They are jelly. 
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Posted: 4/23/2017 1:11:41 PM EDT
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I'm glad you enjoyed it. Yeager can be (and usually is) a tool. Jay Gibson is the most qualified and humble guy they have on staff over there. He's a solid dude. I wish he'd do his own thing and break from Yeager but he probably never will. Ignore the haters. Yes, Yeager is a tool. Yes, there are better courses out there. This is arfcom. Many of the guys posting are too fat and lazy to actually go outside and shoot. They are jelly. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 1:22:55 PM EDT
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Yes, I am aware of potential for criticism about James and TR in general and that is fine. I am indeed surprised at the level of suspicion and trolling I'm getting personally, regardless of the words chosen to describe my experience in the class. I loved it, it changed my training habits as a student and instructor, I encourage others to do likewise. My perception is that this is the good we do each other in the gun community, exchanging knowledge and giving first-hand reviews. We don't have to nor rarely do we agree but calling bullshit and attacking motives? What the hell? As to it being my first post, what is the big deal? I had to post about something the first time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You are clearly aware James is controversial, and yet you're surprised at the level of suspicion and light trolling you're getting after posting a review of his class with such glowing, formulaic language that it sounds like it comes right from a brochure as your first post on the site? Please. As to it being my first post, what is the big deal? I had to post about something the first time. Now, some guy - that you have never seen, doesn't live in your neighborhood, and has zero credibility - shows up on your doorstep. He's just there to tell you about how wonderful this lawn maintenance guy is. No agenda, honest, and no affiliation - just wanted to pass along his impression of how well the dude cuts his lawn... it was almost magical. How would you treat this random stranger? Would you invite him into tell you about the wonderful lawn care dude, or would you say, "WTF-ever, chief. GTFO off my lawn." |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 1:35:06 PM EDT
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Lets say you're aware of some guy that does lawn maintenance. He's generally regarded with a lot derision in your neck of the woods due to his work habits, crazy statements he's made in public, and the general lack of safety he's been observed as having when he does his work. Now, some guy - that you have never seen, doesn't live in your neighborhood, and has zero credibility - shows up on your doorstep. He's just there to tell you about how wonderful this lawn maintenance guy is. No agenda, honest, and no affiliation - just wanted to pass along his impression of how well the dude cuts his lawn... it was almost magical. How would you treat this random stranger? Would you invite him into tell you about the wonderful lawn care dude, or would you say, "WTF-ever, chief. GTFO off my lawn." How do I treat random strangers? With human decency to start with unless they become an aggressor or give me a reason to defend myself against them. Tell you what, you wanna rip me a new one, teach me a lesson? Let's take this to the PMs and sort it out there, this post was supposed to be about training. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 2:22:13 PM EDT
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far as I can tell I'm not on your lawn chief. This is a public forum. You were the new guy with zero credibility once upon a time. How do I treat random strangers? With human decency to start with unless they become an aggressor or give me a reason to defend myself against them. Tell you what, you wanna rip me a new one, teach me a lesson? Let's take this to the PMs and sort it out there, this post was supposed to be about training. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lets say you're aware of some guy that does lawn maintenance. He's generally regarded with a lot derision in your neck of the woods due to his work habits, crazy statements he's made in public, and the general lack of safety he's been observed as having when he does his work. Now, some guy - that you have never seen, doesn't live in your neighborhood, and has zero credibility - shows up on your doorstep. He's just there to tell you about how wonderful this lawn maintenance guy is. No agenda, honest, and no affiliation - just wanted to pass along his impression of how well the dude cuts his lawn... it was almost magical. How would you treat this random stranger? Would you invite him into tell you about the wonderful lawn care dude, or would you say, "WTF-ever, chief. GTFO off my lawn." How do I treat random strangers? With human decency to start with unless they become an aggressor or give me a reason to defend myself against them. Tell you what, you wanna rip me a new one, teach me a lesson? Let's take this to the PMs and sort it out there, this post was supposed to be about training. You can play dumb, but don't be surprised at the response. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 3:36:49 PM EDT
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Wow...simply just wow. Is that how we treat folks around here now? For the record, I have attended a couple of courses led by Yeager. Yes, he is controversial and all that, but, why are we kicking this guy simply for talking about a class he attended? We all lament how folks need to get some training and such, and here is a guy who did just that. Yes, you may not like who he trained with, but, J.H.C...there is no need to just stomp on him like that. Get a grip, you all know better and should act accordingly. Yeagers an idiot, and it's not like I stomped a site sponsor.... Welcome new dude, we hope you can forgive us, just the mention of jy name sends us into a tizzy and we have a hard time getting back to reality. Hopefully we can interact with you in a more positive way next time. 
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Posted: 4/23/2017 9:42:26 PM EDT
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dougcarlson, you're not being derided for being new nor for taking a TR class. You are suspected of being affiliated with TR and fraudulently posting a fake course review based on the language used in your post, claims made of the class, join date, and it being your very first post on the entire board.
Personally, I also had the same suspicions reading your post before I even saw the other responses. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 7:23:19 AM EDT
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dougcarlson, you're not being derided for being new nor for taking a TR class. You are suspected of being affiliated with TR and fraudulently posting a fake course review based on the language used in your post, claims made of the class, join date, and it being your very first post on the entire board. Personally, I also had the same suspicions reading your post before I even saw the other responses. I am GM of a large Gun Range/Store/Training/Gunsmithing Facility in Georgia I am also an NRA Training Counselor and Firearms Instructor. I instruct 300+ students per year. I try and attend as many professional classes as my calendar and wallet allow. I am not affiliated with any entity apart from my own. The review is entirely true. I am limited to 2000 characters. The language was greatly condensed to offer the most information in the limited space. I have never posted here before and considered my input regarding the course to be germane as an instructor and student. Again, in this community of which I am a practicing participant we rely on first-hand accounts with which to make informed decisions regarding gear, training, et al. That is my motivation, to help others in some way as they seek to better themselves. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:26:28 AM EDT
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In light of the cynicism that has manifested into bitterness on this thread... I am GM of a large Gun Range/Store/Training/Gunsmithing Facility in Georgia I am also an NRA Training Counselor and Firearms Instructor. I instruct 300+ students per year. I try and attend as many professional classes as my calendar and wallet allow. I am not affiliated with any entity apart from my own. The review is entirely true. I am limited to 2000 characters. The language was greatly condensed to offer the most information in the limited space. I have never posted here before and considered my input regarding the course to be germane as an instructor and student. Again, in this community of which I am a practicing participant we rely on first-hand accounts with which to make informed decisions regarding gear, training, et al. That is my motivation, to help others in some way as they seek to better themselves. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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dougcarlson, you're not being derided for being new nor for taking a TR class. You are suspected of being affiliated with TR and fraudulently posting a fake course review based on the language used in your post, claims made of the class, join date, and it being your very first post on the entire board. Personally, I also had the same suspicions reading your post before I even saw the other responses. I am GM of a large Gun Range/Store/Training/Gunsmithing Facility in Georgia I am also an NRA Training Counselor and Firearms Instructor. I instruct 300+ students per year. I try and attend as many professional classes as my calendar and wallet allow. I am not affiliated with any entity apart from my own. The review is entirely true. I am limited to 2000 characters. The language was greatly condensed to offer the most information in the limited space. I have never posted here before and considered my input regarding the course to be germane as an instructor and student. Again, in this community of which I am a practicing participant we rely on first-hand accounts with which to make informed decisions regarding gear, training, et al. That is my motivation, to help others in some way as they seek to better themselves. The old adage applies. Nothing good to say? Say nothing then. There are other, far better, ambassadors of the firearms community. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:53:25 AM EDT
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INSTRUCTORS:Tactical Response - Don Numbers, Jay Gibson, Tim Morse and James Yeager. Fighting rifle takes a student from understanding the basic safety rules of operating a rifle to holding your rifle, use of a sling, drawing your rifle, loading, unloading, reloading, clearing malfunctions, and basic maneuvering while operating your rifle in a simulated fight scenario. Progresses into moving while shooting, concealment vs cover, shooting from cover, shooting from various positions (fetal, prone, kneeling, standing, walking forward, backwards, sideways, box drills, etc.), transitioning from rifle to pistol back to rifle among other drills. Day two is a continuation of instruction at the range. A quick recap of what you learned the day before is covered before and more advanced drills are conducted. The second half of the day is spent working in teams. Understanding how to communicate effectively, bounding / leap frogging, moving, laying down cover fire, etc. are taught as an introduction to the Advanced Fighting Rifle class which utilizes the same techniques only on a more advanced and chaotic level. Day 2 of the Fighting Rifle course was an AMAZING . MY GEAR:Glock 19, Blackpoint OWB Holster,double-mag holster, 9mm Fed, Spike’s Crusader, Sight Mark Wolverine Red Dot, Vickers 2-point sling, Blue-Force 10-speed Chest Rig, 2nd AmendMags , Ear and eye pro, Shamagh, standard issue knee-pads, Fed .556. SUMMARY:We started as 30 strangers and melded into a team. In exhaustion we remained effective and safe as a group. In live fire training with people everywhere, at many angles and vantage points made contact, peeled off, we got behind cover, put down effective fire (out to 250 yards), moved by bounds, communicated, covered each other, rescued our wounded and attended to them medically and got out of dodge. We got WAY MORE than we paid for. GO TAKE THIS CLASS NOW WHILE YOU CAN. Thanks for the heads up! |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:55:21 AM EDT
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what day did the instructor break the 180 rule and shoot a students vehicle? Before or after the wheelchair dude and the hostage scenario with live hostages?
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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:45:08 PM EDT
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In light of the cynicism that has manifested into bitterness on this thread... I am GM of a large Gun Range/Store/Training/Gunsmithing Facility in Georgia I am also an NRA Training Counselor and Firearms Instructor. I instruct 300+ students per year. I try and attend as many professional classes as my calendar and wallet allow. I am not affiliated with any entity apart from my own. The review is entirely true. I am limited to 2000 characters. The language was greatly condensed to offer the most information in the limited space. I have never posted here before and considered my input regarding the course to be germane as an instructor and student. Again, in this community of which I am a practicing participant we rely on first-hand accounts with which to make informed decisions regarding gear, training, et al. That is my motivation, to help others in some way as they seek to better themselves. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:31:13 PM EDT
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Welcome to the forum and Kudos for expanding your training experience. As an instructor, it's always a good idea to take classes from others and decide what to put in your tool box. Clint Smith is also an awesome instructor. I hope you had a chance to train with Pat Rogers before he passed. He was one of the best.
I have taken classes from a bunch of instructors including James. I never witnessed the safety violations that were later documented on video but that was off putting when I saw it. Anyhow, don't take the hazing personally, JY is highly controversial. I'm glad you had a good experience. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 5:46:37 PM EDT
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Wow...simply just wow. Is that how we treat folks around here now? For the record, I have attended a couple of courses led by Yeager. Yes, he is controversial and all that, but, why are we kicking this guy simply for talking about a class he attended? We all lament how folks need to get some training and such, and here is a guy who did just that. Yes, you may not like who he trained with, but, J.H.C...there is no need to just stomp on him like that. Get a grip, you all know better and should act accordingly. At the end of the day, topgunpilot20 "may" be correct but mo4040 and Aimless make solid points. What is this, wait anxiously with baited breath in the training forums for the next TR thread? If you don't like TR, fine. If you love to hate TR, fine. But do some of you really feel compelled to express your disdain with "junior high" sneers and taunts? Is it really that important to get it out of your system? If you think the guy is a shill for TR, best option is to ignore the thread. Knock it off. Please. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 6:37:38 PM EDT
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Welcome to the forum and Kudos for expanding your training experience. As an instructor, it's always a good idea to take classes from others and decide what to put in your tool box. Clint Smith is also an awesome instructor. I hope you had a chance to train with Pat Rogers before he passed. He was one of the best. I have taken classes from a bunch of instructors including James. I never witnessed the safety violations that were later documented on video but that was off putting when I saw it. Anyhow, don't take the hazing personally, JY is highly controversial. I'm glad you had a good experience. I admire that. Not taking anything personally, I understand the human condition. as for James, defending him is a very poor paying job and I don't want it, and he does not need me to do it. |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 6:55:55 PM EDT
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It would be interesting to see someone who doesn't like Yeager and has never taken a course from Yeager, go take a course objectively and post what it was like.
Lots of people jump on a bandwagon due to some of his past videos and abrasive personality but refuse to look past that objectively. Personally, I would spend my money elsewhere but I'm sure I would benefit something if I took one of his courses. Even an instructor you personally don't care for can teach you something. But you have to put your ego aside and some of the people who love to jump on the anti Yeager bandwagon have as big if not bigger egos than he does. |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 7:53:01 PM EDT
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It would be interesting to see someone who doesn't like Yeager and has never taken a course from Yeager, go take a course objectively and post what it was like. Lots of people jump on a bandwagon due to some of his past videos and abrasive personality but refuse to look past that objectively. Personally, I would spend my money elsewhere but I'm sure I would benefit something if I took one of his courses. Even an instructor you personally don't care for can teach you something. But you have to put your ego aside and some of the people who love to jump on the anti Yeager bandwagon have as big if not bigger egos than he does. I know someone who trained with gabe suarez. He said Suarez seemed okay. I wouldn't invest the time and money to take a class from him |
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Posted: 6/14/2017 10:53:25 PM EDT
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From what I saw of earlier Yeager classes, I wouldn't go near that impact area.
Since then, it appears that some guys with actual experience have come in and tried to square things away, but I still personally would avoid it because of all the fratricide issues I've seen even with active duty units that do this as part of their job. Getting that many people together for one course who have never worked with each other, let alone PT'd with each other, is a potential recipe for disaster. In a real unit, you will spend a lot of time dry, blank, then live. Biggest issue I see is dudes getting tunnel vision from all the disorienting muzzle blast, and brain-dumping what they're supposed to do. They then run into someone's field of fire. I've seen it several times, where dudes narrowly missed eating bursts of 5.56. |
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Posted: 7/2/2017 8:05:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/20/2017 3:39:32 PM EDT
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yes, multiple cover was used as well as immediately attending to a hit team member whom has suffered a femoral artery hit as did Jay Hurt in the incident to which you are alluding. |
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