 Gooseboy 
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Posted: 6/10/2012 11:34:47 PM
[Last Edit: 6/10/2012 11:38:04 PM by Gooseboy]
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT Are there problems with the ones listed? Are they good to go? What other schools should I look at? Im in Oklahoma so anywhere near the surrounding states would be nice, but I'd like to pay for a good course instead of a half ass instructor. Thanks yall! EDIT Basically what im saying is I want the best class I can get for a good price. I dont want an incredibly expensive for no reason course, but a good bang for the buck kinda deal. |
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Posted: 6/11/2012 12:15:56 AM
Paul Howe's CSAT Tactical pistol operator is one of the best ones I know to start on. He teaches both .mil ,.le. ,and .civs. Everyone leaves CSAT knowing their strengths and weeknesses. And upon what to practice next.
www.combatshootingandtactics.com |
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Posted: 6/11/2012 7:29:38 PM
Originally Posted By Gooseboy:
Im lookin to take some training and am interested in Haley Strategic, Costa Ludus, Magpul Dynamics, and James Yeager's Tactical Response. Are there problems with the ones listed? Are they good to go? What other schools should I look at? Im in Oklahoma so anywhere near the surrounding states would be nice, but I'd like to pay for a good course instead of a half ass instructor. Thanks yall! EDIT Basically what im saying is I want the best class I can get for a good price. I dont want an incredibly expensive for no reason course, but a good bang for the buck kinda deal. Why those three? What are your reasons for training? What are you wanting to learn? Are you willing to travel or do you want a local class? |
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Posted: 6/11/2012 7:48:05 PM
Just the research I have done has led me to believe those 4 are reputable good classes for a decent price (unlike Thunder Ranch). Whether thats a correct assessment is part of what I am asking.
I am just training to become better with my pistol, right now I am just a law abiding citizen and big shooting fan whose been shooting since he was a kid, but after college I will become a LEO. Id like to learn different stances/shooting techniques and when to use them, tactical/speed reloads, malfunction drills, shooting drills, off hand shooting, kind of a basic tactical course, then keep going from there. I am willing to travel. |
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Posted: 6/11/2012 9:04:14 PM
I wouldn't go to the big name instructors for a basic course (or even an advanced course in some cases). You can find excellent instruction (sometimes locally) for a much lower cost.
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Posted: 6/11/2012 9:44:07 PM
I dont necessarily want the big name because its a big name, but Im a college student with a limited budget, so I would rather pay 600 and learn a lot, than pay 400 at a local course and learn everything I already know.
Ive been shooting for years, I know sight alignment, some stances, grip, pistol mehanics, all the basic stuff. I just want to take my shooting to the next level. |
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Posted: 6/11/2012 9:46:36 PM
Gunsite 250 if you don't mind the trip.
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Posted: 6/11/2012 9:54:12 PM
Originally Posted By Gooseboy:
I dont necessarily want the big name because its a big name, but Im a college student with a limited budget, so I would rather pay 600 and learn a lot, than pay 400 at a local course and learn everything I already know. Ive been shooting for years, I know sight alignment, some stances, grip, pistol mehanics, all the basic stuff. I just want to take my shooting to the next level. A local course (if you find a good one) can teach you reloads, malfunctions, drills, and all the 'next level' stuff you mentioned above. (I'm a college student on a limited budget too.) I think you're expecting too much from a big name instructor. There really isn't much out there that's new in the world of handgun shooting - nothing much that's useful anyway. On a side note: there are only 2 stances: 1) Modern Isocoles 2) Wrong.  |
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Posted: 6/11/2012 10:26:07 PM
Originally Posted By sjlmd:
Gunsite 250 if you don't mind the trip. 1000 bucks is just way too expensive for me. @echofive Ive seen instructors near me, not impressed, unless you can recommend a good class in Oklahoma? |
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Posted: 6/11/2012 10:33:42 PM
Sorry, don't know about the Oklahoma area. Ask around the OK HTF or attend a shooting match in your area - the 'tactical' type shooters that can actually shoot well tend to show up to those. Good place to meet people that know who/where the good area trainers are.
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Posted: 6/12/2012 10:13:13 PM
[Last Edit: 6/12/2012 10:15:44 PM by ColtRifle]
Don't know where you are in OK but there is the US Shooting Academy in the Tulsa area. I've not trained there but a friend of mine has and recommends them.
They are also featured on the Outdoor Network every so often. US Shooting Academy |
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Posted: 6/13/2012 11:18:18 AM
Originally Posted By TDunn:
Paul Howe's CSAT Tactical pistol operator is one of the best ones I know to start on. He teaches both .mil ,.le. ,and .civs. Everyone leaves CSAT knowing their strengths and weeknesses. And upon what to practice next. www.combatshootingandtactics.com This +10000. Paul is awesome and CSAT is an amazing resource that we as shooters are fortunate to have. |
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Posted: 7/1/2012 2:00:16 AM
You are gonna find non-local trips add up really fast once you account for travel expenses, lodging,. With the increase in ammo price you need to account for that as well. I strongly suggest you find something local thats close so you can save money on the travel stuff and still get a quality foundation to build on.
Now if you aspire to attend a certain instructors advanced courses then save up the money and take their basic courses since they often are required to attend the higher ones. I don't see too many instructors allow other instructors courses pass for pre-reqs. Good luck and hope you find some good training. |
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Posted: 7/1/2012 2:13:51 AM
Originally Posted By TheMirage:
You are gonna find non-local trips add up really fast once you account for travel expenses, lodging,. With the increase in ammo price you need to account for that as well. I strongly suggest you find something local thats close so you can save money on the travel stuff and still get a quality foundation to build on. Now if you aspire to attend a certain instructors advanced courses then save up the money and take their basic courses since they often are required to attend the higher ones. I don't see too many instructors allow other instructors courses pass for pre-reqs. Good luck and hope you find some good training. This. I'm lucky that Paul Howe has his place down in Nacogdoches, literally a little over an hour from me. Plus I got to stay in his lodge, which unfortunately he has closed except for certain classes. That saved me some money. OP, if you're still reading this, start buying ammo now, in small increments. If you wanna buy in bulk, make sure you test that ammo first, otherwise you might end up being a malfunction drill god. |
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Posted: 7/1/2012 12:54:51 PM
Originally Posted By TheMirage:
You are gonna find non-local trips add up really fast once you account for travel expenses, lodging,. With the increase in ammo price you need to account for that as well. I strongly suggest you find something local thats close so you can save money on the travel stuff and still get a quality foundation to build on. Now if you aspire to attend a certain instructors advanced courses then save up the money and take their basic courses since they often are required to attend the higher ones. I don't see too many instructors allow other instructors courses pass for pre-reqs. Good luck and hope you find some good training. I fly for free so that helps, @easttxshooter Yes still looking, CSAT is looking like a real winner, currently saving my pennies. |
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Posted: 7/1/2012 3:12:42 PM
Originally Posted By Gooseboy:
Originally Posted By TheMirage:
You are gonna find non-local trips add up really fast once you account for travel expenses, lodging,. With the increase in ammo price you need to account for that as well. I strongly suggest you find something local thats close so you can save money on the travel stuff and still get a quality foundation to build on. Now if you aspire to attend a certain instructors advanced courses then save up the money and take their basic courses since they often are required to attend the higher ones. I don't see too many instructors allow other instructors courses pass for pre-reqs. Good luck and hope you find some good training. I fly for free so that helps, @easttxshooter Yes still looking, CSAT is looking like a real winner, currently saving my pennies. If you have any questions, send me an IM. |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 8:53:14 PM
I have trained with several very well known instructors. No one comes close to Greg Hamilton at Insights. Worth the trip, especially for the Intensive Handgun Skills course.
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Posted: 7/4/2012 9:05:01 PM
Originally Posted By Overtorque:
I have trained with several very well known instructors. No one comes close to Greg Hamilton at Insights. Worth the trip, especially for the Intensive Handgun Skills course. Which class did you take? Civ. or Mil/Le? |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 10:06:43 AM
Civilian. Awesome.
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