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Posted: 2/22/2017 5:37:23 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/23/2017 1:48:37 AM EDT
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Wouldn't that get you 45 days workmans compensation, then a lifetime disability pension, which of course wouldn't prevent you from a returning to work in another well paying State job.  
Those that can read, and apply "the rules" can make a lot of money: Corrections Officers do it all the time...I'm not suggesting its right, only that those who agreed to the contracts and provisions didn't serve the tax paying citizens of the State any justice.
Link Posted: 2/23/2017 3:05:43 PM EDT
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...those who agreed to the contracts and provisions didn't serve the tax paying citizens of the State any justice.
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This is something new?  For the last 30 years, public services contracts have been skewed to extract the most amount of revenue out of the taxpayers (of which some goes to support the politicians that push it through).  What is annoying is there are four parties to any of these contract negotiations but only THREE have any say in the matter:

1) Negotiator for the union
2) Negotiator for the government (supposedly representing the taxpayers)
3) Union Membership
4) Taxpayers

The first three have a vote on whether or not to ultimately ratify or reject a contract.  Parties one and two negotiate and vote to forward their agreement to party three.  Party three votes to ratify or reject.  Party four is handed the bill and told to pay it or move away.
Link Posted: 2/23/2017 6:12:13 PM EDT
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This is something new?  For the last 30 years, public services contracts have been skewed to extract the most amount of revenue out of the taxpayers (of which some goes to support the politicians that push it through).  What is annoying is there are four parties to any of these contract negotiations but only THREE have any say in the matter:

1) Negotiator for the union
2) Negotiator for the government (supposedly representing the taxpayers)
3) Union Membership
4) Taxpayers

The first three have a vote on whether or not to ultimately ratify or reject a contract.  Parties one and two negotiate and vote to forward their agreement to party three.  Party three votes to ratify or reject.  Party four is handed the bill and told to pay it or move away.
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I get it, and some do a good job for all parties, others are in it for themselves and their cronies at the expense of that endless bag of feed supplied by the taxes, tolls, fees, fines, surcharges, licenses, permits, contractual obligations, and at least a dozen more financial instruments that only the insiders understand.
Most of us have ethical principles where screwing over the system, while legal really goes against out personal ethics, perhaps that's why some exploit it while others just make a living while earning enough to stay afloat in retirement.  Places like the LIRR, NYPA, MTA, etc. I'm betting have a well entrenched Union and Management that's going to milk that cow for all she'll give, and until there's significant change, nothing is going to change.
Off on a tangent:  I work for the Army as a Federal Employee.  There are two Unions, ours is worthless as the guys "in charge" doing the negotiating have the combined IQ of about 90.  When they do a "wage survey" there are not permitted to look at Syracuse's rates nor the St. Lawrence Seaway (both are our next door neighbors and pay five to ten dollars an hour MORE than us for the same grade) instead they go to Burlington Vermont where it's significantly less, then show us as "better off" because our pay higher then theirs.  
In Racing, there's a concept: Watch the ounces and the pounds will take care of themselves.  As we scrutinize and hold accountable ever instance of screwing the system over, one day it'll all be gone.
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