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Posted: 4/11/2017 8:42:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/11/2017 9:03:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:12:25 PM EDT
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Nolo just kicked New Jersey's ass.
 
https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1988076_Just-won-a-case-in-----NEW-JERSEY-.html |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 7:01:45 AM EDT
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The NY AG's office sure won't concede
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Posted: 4/26/2017 7:18:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless:
The NY AG's office sure won't concede |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 7:41:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless:
The NY AG's office sure won't concede |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 1:09:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere:
I'm hoping that the court sees nj order and agrees with it and grants our prelim injunction |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 5:18:48 AM EDT
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So if a taser is a bearable arm and cannot be banned how is an AR15 not a commonly owned bearable arm? This is ridiculous.
Besides, they will just make tasers like handguns. Hard and expensive to acquire and you can't carry it. |
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Posted: 5/18/2017 12:18:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Jmo371]
[#9]
@NoloContendere
any update? |
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Posted: 5/18/2017 5:37:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jmo371:
@NoloContendere any update? |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2017 9:22:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DaveM4P99]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere:
no update. court has not ruled on the motions yet. Most likely you will lose here, and lose again in the 2nd circus...then you will have to petition cert with SCOTUS, who will obviously rule in your favor (again)... But then prepare for NY to make it akin to owning a handgun. I bet they will even require a mandatory class to own one, not to mention fees and restrictions on voltage / power allowable...kind of like the watered down pepper spray we have in NY that does nothing. By the time we get tasers in NY, it will cost $300, and take 9 months...and what we will get will have the power equivalent of a static shock. Not to sound ungrateful though! I hope this goes well, and leads to the striking of the Sullivan Act and the unSAFE act. |
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Posted: 5/18/2017 9:39:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveM4P99:
Just prepare yourself for a banana republic style kangaroo court. NY judges are liberal activists, and are the most dishonest in the entire nation. Most likely you will lose here, and lose again in the 2nd circus...then you will have to petition cert with SCOTUS, who will obviously rule in your favor (again)... But then prepare for NY to make it akin to owning a handgun. I bet they will even require a mandatory class to own one, not to mention fees and restrictions on voltage / power allowable...kind of like the watered down pepper spray we have in NY that does nothing. By the time we get tasers in NY, it will cost $300, and take 9 months...and what we will get will have the power equivalent of a static shock. Not to sound ungrateful though! I hope this goes well, and leads to the striking of the Sullivan Act and the unSAFE act. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveM4P99:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
no update. court has not ruled on the motions yet. Most likely you will lose here, and lose again in the 2nd circus...then you will have to petition cert with SCOTUS, who will obviously rule in your favor (again)... But then prepare for NY to make it akin to owning a handgun. I bet they will even require a mandatory class to own one, not to mention fees and restrictions on voltage / power allowable...kind of like the watered down pepper spray we have in NY that does nothing. By the time we get tasers in NY, it will cost $300, and take 9 months...and what we will get will have the power equivalent of a static shock. Not to sound ungrateful though! I hope this goes well, and leads to the striking of the Sullivan Act and the unSAFE act.
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Posted: 5/18/2017 9:50:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DaveM4P99]
[#13]
Yeah according to a Mother Jones article the judge read and cited in his decision, Tasers pose a risk to public safety, and the Supreme Court didn't actually unanimously say Tasers were protected by the 2nd amendment...they only said that Tasers could be owned as long as it posed zero danger to public safety...and since tasers can sometimes cause burns or heart attacks, we can't allow them in NY.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 8:06:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveM4P99:
Just prepare yourself for a banana republic style kangaroo court. NY judges are liberal activists, and are the most dishonest in the entire nation. Most likely you will lose here, and lose again in the 2nd circus...then you will have to petition cert with SCOTUS, who will obviously rule in your favor (again)... But then prepare for NY to make it akin to owning a handgun. I bet they will even require a mandatory class to own one, not to mention fees and restrictions on voltage / power allowable...kind of like the watered down pepper spray we have in NY that does nothing. By the time we get tasers in NY, it will cost $300, and take 9 months...and what we will get will have the power equivalent of a static shock. Not to sound ungrateful though! I hope this goes well, and leads to the striking of the Sullivan Act and the unSAFE act. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 9:24:52 PM EDT
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The governor made his position clear about people like us.
http://nypost.com/2014/01/18/gov-cuomo-to-conservatives-leave-ny/ That is all |
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Posted: 5/20/2017 9:36:23 AM EDT
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We will have safe act 2.0 before this is concluded in the courts. God only knows what that is going to look like but I imagine all the new methods for making a featureless rifle will be specifically banned.
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NY, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2017 8:56:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Aardvark]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BenC:
The longer the wait the more spectacular the mental gymnastics they're going to come out with. No doubt about it. As I noted back on page 1 of this thread in http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_9/607796_Hello-New-York--I-m-coming-to-your-state-soon--update--argument-in-Utica-on-3-24-17.html#i6712906 , they will come up with some kind of twisted logic to deny. And I am sure Mother Jones will figure somewhere in the written decision  I expect nothing less from New York and the fact that I am seeing so many "For Sale" signs attached to houses around Long Island tells me more and more people are looking to get out as well.
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Posted: 6/7/2017 2:40:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aardvark:
+1 No doubt about it. As I noted back on page 1 of this thread in http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_9/607796_Hello-New-York--I-m-coming-to-your-state-soon--update--argument-in-Utica-on-3-24-17.html#i6712906 , they will come up with some kind of twisted logic to deny. And I am sure Mother Jones will figure somewhere in the written decision I expect nothing less from New York and the fact that I am seeing so many "For Sale" signs attached to houses around Long Island tells me more and more people are looking to get out as well.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aardvark:
Originally Posted By BenC:
The longer the wait the more spectacular the mental gymnastics they're going to come out with. No doubt about it. As I noted back on page 1 of this thread in http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_9/607796_Hello-New-York--I-m-coming-to-your-state-soon--update--argument-in-Utica-on-3-24-17.html#i6712906 , they will come up with some kind of twisted logic to deny. And I am sure Mother Jones will figure somewhere in the written decision I expect nothing less from New York and the fact that I am seeing so many "For Sale" signs attached to houses around Long Island tells me more and more people are looking to get out as well.
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Posted: 6/8/2017 8:36:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere:
I don't know why it's taking so long. |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 2:57:24 PM EDT
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The longer this goes.....
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Posted: 7/19/2017 7:40:29 PM EDT
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Lol. Alan called the court yesterday and the clerk said something to the effect of "we have your briefs. We didn't lose them"
We could get an opinion any day now. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 7:43:40 PM EDT
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Or not.
I knew someone (not a client) who sued in federal court and who had a good cas despite some bad facts (i.e. He looked bad). The judge sat on the motion for summary judgment I think for two years, probably hoping he would settle |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 9:03:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless:
Or not. I knew someone (not a client) who sued in federal court and who had a good cas despite some bad facts (i.e. He looked bad). The judge sat on the motion for summary judgment I think for two years, probably hoping he would settle |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 9:34:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless:
Or not. I knew someone (not a client) who sued in federal court and who had a good cas despite some bad facts (i.e. He looked bad). The judge sat on the motion for summary judgment I think for two years, probably hoping he would settle |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 9:37:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tigglesworth:
Is there not some means to prevent judges from doing such things? |
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Posted: 7/25/2017 9:28:32 PM EDT
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Dirty political pool playing NY justice system.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 2:53:05 PM EDT
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no update as of yet.
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Posted: 9/17/2017 8:51:55 PM EDT
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Anti archive bump.
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Posted: 9/18/2017 2:48:05 AM EDT
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I set it to not archive
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Posted: 9/18/2017 6:22:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless:
I set it to not archive 
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Posted: 9/18/2017 9:36:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless:
I set it to not archive |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 9:45:13 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere:
Thanks! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
I set it to not archive |
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Posted: 9/28/2017 2:58:55 PM EDT
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District Court denied our Motion for Preliminary Injunction and the DA's Motion to Dismiss. So, now we get to enter into some discovery. I'll post up the opinion shortly.
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Posted: 9/28/2017 3:11:55 PM EDT
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I almost hate to read it
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Posted: 9/28/2017 3:15:31 PM EDT
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This is my shocked face --->
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NY, USA
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Posted: 9/28/2017 3:25:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DaveM4P99]
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Looking forward to the mental gymnastics the kangaroo court used to completely disregard a unanimous Supreme Court decision.
This case will not be won at the state level. NY judges are too dishonest and corrupt. It will need to go to SCOTUS. Even after SCOTUS bitch slaps NY (in 3-5 years?), NY will still make owing a taser akin to owning a handgun - licensing, safety classes, fees, power restrictions etc. By the time we can own one, it will be so weak it wouldn't stun a baby. |
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Posted: 9/28/2017 7:57:13 PM EDT
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NY, USA
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Posted: 9/28/2017 9:30:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoloContendere:
http://www.sdslaw.us/single-post/2017/09/28/New-York-District-Court-Denies-Preliminary-Injunction-in-Taser-Case It is simple. Either a court realizes that the 2nd protects all forms of bearable arms...or it thinks otherwise. If it thinks otherwise, even just a little, there is no hope. They are dishonest and corrupt, and often not very smart (Skretny for example is a total imbecile). |
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Posted: 9/28/2017 10:37:47 PM EDT
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From page 15:
Further, Avitabile's own affidavit details myriad other non-lethal or less-lethal devices that exist for in-home self-defense purposes, making it hard to conclude at this point that the stun gun ban effectively disarms individuals or substantially affects their ability to defend themselves. See N.Y. State Rifle, 804 F.3d at 260. Very interesting reading. Just curious as to what other devices were listed in the affidavit-pots and pans, baseball bats???? |
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Posted: 9/29/2017 5:30:22 AM EDT
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Supposedly a nyag claimed in a brief once that you can open carry long guns in ny. Bwah ha ha
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Posted: 9/29/2017 5:37:49 AM EDT
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Lol well you’ll get trips to nyc and dc at least
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Posted: 9/29/2017 8:42:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless:
Supposedly a nyag claimed in a brief once that you can open carry long guns in ny. Bwah ha ha |
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Posted: 9/29/2017 11:32:52 AM EDT
[#43]
Gee, I wish I was as good at predicting the stock market as this outcome. I'd have a fortune in the bank right now:
https://www.ar15.com/forums/hometown/Hello-New-York-I-m-coming-to-your-state-soon-update-District-Court-denies-PI-9-28-2017/9-607796/?page=1#i6712906 |
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Posted: 9/29/2017 12:03:12 PM EDT
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While we all would have loved to see a full victory right now, not issuing the PI basically sounds more like a "I'm not issuing this because I don't have to and you can't make me." The real metal gymnastics will come later.
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Posted: 9/29/2017 12:25:59 PM EDT
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I didn't expect a NY Court to issue an injunction against behavior they deem acceptable. I am not defeatist and I do expect NOLO to win this case.
Good luck man! |
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Posted: 9/29/2017 12:53:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shqype:
I didn't expect a NY Court to issue an injunction against behavior they deem acceptable. I am not defeatist and I do expect NOLO to win this case Good luck man! |
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Posted: 10/30/2017 9:42:20 PM EDT
[#47]
Some updates: court conference scheduled for November 9 (telephonic) for a scheduling order. We should be getting into discovery and setting deadlines for summary judgment motions.
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Posted: 11/1/2017 12:44:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: thirsty]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cviss:
This and only way to change this view is impeachment of these judges and stripped of license |
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Posted: 11/1/2017 8:28:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thirsty:
Disrobe them in a totally non-sexual, angry and vindictive way, but admittedly if it happened like that I'd have a had time hiding the fact I had a raging boner. A freedom boner. A froner, if you will. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 11:00:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMPEBRFAN:
From page 15: Further, Avitabile's own affidavit details myriad other non-lethal or less-lethal devices that exist for in-home self-defense purposes, making it hard to conclude at this point that the stun gun ban effectively disarms individuals or substantially affects their ability to defend themselves. See N.Y. State Rifle, 804 F.3d at 260. Very interesting reading. Just curious as to what other devices were listed in the affidavit-pots and pans, baseball bats???? |
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