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Posted: 9/10/2016 2:49:40 PM EDT
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In Nassau caliber conversions go on the permit aswell under the same serial number..
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Posted: 9/10/2016 3:37:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In Nassau caliber conversions go on the permit aswell under the same serial number.. It is the same in Orange County.
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Posted: 9/10/2016 3:55:29 PM EDT
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It is the same in Orange County. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In Nassau caliber conversions go on the permit aswell under the same serial number.. It is the same in Orange County. same as Dutchess county |
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Posted: 9/10/2016 4:56:15 PM EDT
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Cool, thanks guys, going to have to send in the paper work Monday.
Does the same go for the Glock 20 slide even though it's a10mm? Just different model #. |
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Posted: 9/11/2016 9:34:11 AM EDT
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Well 40 is 10mm and 10mm is 40, easy enough to argue.
Depends on how your people write it. Here it's a mix. I think I have a .40 S&W down as "40" and some 38s as 38, but otherwise most of them are by bore diameter. Which is helpful since many of them most people have never heard off. I have a Ruger Buckeye convertable .38-40 and 10mm marked down as "40" because it is and because it was easier to write that than to try to explain it all to the non gun person doing the paperwork. |
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Posted: 9/11/2016 11:45:05 AM EDT
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Here is the deal, I have a Glock 40, 10 mm. I also have a Glock 20 slide (10mm), Glock 21 slide (.45) and an AA .22 slide. I was carrying my Glock 40 frame topped off with the 21 slide the other day and thought about the ramifications of I ever had to use the set up in self defense. My permit says Glock 40, 10mm, serial #. Now with COBIS gone, I don't believe the caiber or barrel makes a difference other than being superficial. Has anyone ever experienced or have experience with this topic? Does the pistol carried have to match the permit 100% or is the caiber and serial # sufficient? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Here is the deal, I have a Glock 40, 10 mm. I also have a Glock 20 slide (10mm), Glock 21 slide (.45) and an AA .22 slide. I was carrying my Glock 40 frame topped off with the 21 slide the other day and thought about the ramifications of I ever had to use the set up in self defense. My permit says Glock 40, 10mm, serial #. Now with COBIS gone, I don't believe the caiber or barrel makes a difference other than being superficial. Has anyone ever experienced or have experience with this topic? Does the pistol carried have to match the permit 100% or is the caiber and serial # sufficient? Excellent question! Quoted:
In Nassau caliber conversions go on the permit aswell under the same serial number.. Never heard of this before, where is it written? State law? County rule? Let's get this information before it is a problem for someone. Bill |
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Posted: 9/11/2016 12:59:02 PM EDT
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Never heard of this before, where is it written? State law? County rule? Let's get this information before it is a problem for someone. Bill Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In Nassau caliber conversions go on the permit aswell under the same serial number.. Never heard of this before, where is it written? State law? County rule? Let's get this information before it is a problem for someone. Bill The only thing I can find in article 400 as it pertains to this would be the following; Such license shall specify the weapon covered by
calibre, make, model, manufacturer's name and serial number, or if none, by any other distinguishing number or identification mark, and shall indicate whether issued to carry on the person or possess on the premises, and if on the premises shall also specify the place where the licensee shall possess the same. I assume if you wish to change the calibre (NY cant spell) that it must be listed on the license for that serial number according to Article 400. I know the county will list the same serial with multiple calibers under it. |
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Posted: 9/11/2016 2:00:13 PM EDT
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The only thing I can find in article 400 as it pertains to this would be the following; I assume if you wish to change the calibre (NY cant spell) that it must be listed on the license for that serial number according to Article 400. I know the county will list the same serial with multiple calibers under it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In Nassau caliber conversions go on the permit aswell under the same serial number.. Never heard of this before, where is it written? State law? County rule? Let's get this information before it is a problem for someone. Bill The only thing I can find in article 400 as it pertains to this would be the following; Such license shall specify the weapon covered by
calibre, make, model, manufacturer's name and serial number, or if none, by any other distinguishing number or identification mark, and shall indicate whether issued to carry on the person or possess on the premises, and if on the premises shall also specify the place where the licensee shall possess the same. I assume if you wish to change the calibre (NY cant spell) that it must be listed on the license for that serial number according to Article 400. I know the county will list the same serial with multiple calibers under it. So, in other words, if you change the slide but keep the same caliber, then you "should" should be ok. In my case, the Glock 40 slide in 10mm swapped for a Glock 20 slide in 10mm for carry when not hunting. |
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Posted: 9/11/2016 2:04:24 PM EDT
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Calibre is correct, though largely out of use in this country.
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Posted: 9/11/2016 5:51:58 PM EDT
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Calibre is correct, though largely out of use in this country. Thought was the English (GB) spelling, like colour & color. |
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Posted: 9/11/2016 6:53:00 PM EDT
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Wait, so would a Ruger Single Six that has both .22lr and .22 WMR be listed with both or just .22?
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Posted: 9/11/2016 9:12:08 PM EDT
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I asked the Monroe county pistol permit workers about it when I was adding a few years ago. She said I should IIRC. I'm not sure if it's a "must" or "should". Not a bad idea.
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Posted: 9/12/2016 9:55:26 AM EDT
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The one time I asked at the pistol permit office about adding conversion calibers or barrels and the people said "I guess, if you want." This was Nassau. I really don't think they care. They only want that info so they can make sure they confiscate everything if you should become a prohibited person. If what you're doing doesn't go against that idea, then I can't see the problem.
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Posted: 9/12/2016 6:34:12 PM EDT
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Monroe county told me I needed a bill of sale/ invoice/ proof of sale to add a caliber to a serial number.
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Posted: 9/13/2016 8:47:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Monroe county told me I needed a bill of sale/ invoice/ proof of sale to add a caliber to a serial number.  yeah I could see that if I tried to add another caliber. |
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Posted: 9/13/2016 5:16:02 PM EDT
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yeah I could see that if I tried to add another caliber. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Monroe county told me I needed a bill of sale/ invoice/ proof of sale to add a caliber to a serial number.
yeah I could see that if I tried to add another caliber. I had some fun with it... Until I was asked, "Do you want me to do this amendment or not?" Figured I needed the base pistol on the permit more than I needed to see if I could get escorted out of the office. |
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Posted: 9/13/2016 6:19:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had some fun with it... Until I was asked, "Do you want me to do this amendment or not?" Figured I needed the base pistol on the permit more than I needed to see if I could get escorted out of the office. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Monroe county told me I needed a bill of sale/ invoice/ proof of sale to add a caliber to a serial number. yeah I could see that if I tried to add another caliber. I had some fun with it... Until I was asked, "Do you want me to do this amendment or not?" Figured I needed the base pistol on the permit more than I needed to see if I could get escorted out of the office. |
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Posted: 9/13/2016 6:52:17 PM EDT
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Those are the only people I never mouth off to. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Monroe county told me I needed a bill of sale/ invoice/ proof of sale to add a caliber to a serial number.
yeah I could see that if I tried to add another caliber. I had some fun with it... Until I was asked, "Do you want me to do this amendment or not?" Figured I needed the base pistol on the permit more than I needed to see if I could get escorted out of the office. I've never been too good at not saying the wrong thing. I guess that translates to simple question asking as well. 
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Posted: 9/13/2016 7:05:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Monroe county told me I needed a bill of sale/ invoice/ proof of sale to add a caliber to a serial number. Orange County did not require this. They were happy to get the $5 per amendment.
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Posted: 9/13/2016 7:53:23 PM EDT
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Calibre is correct, though largely out of use in this country. Good show, old mahn! I say, I thought that was going to be a sticky wicket if left unchecked! Alas, you showed up right on shhhhhhedyule. 
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Posted: 9/13/2016 8:42:45 PM EDT
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yeah I could see that if I tried to add another caliber. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Monroe county told me I needed a bill of sale/ invoice/ proof of sale to add a caliber to a serial number.
yeah I could see that if I tried to add another caliber. Onondaga county wanted a receipt for my new barrel in order to add a new caliber to an already registered pistol. |
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Posted: 10/14/2016 9:19:31 PM EDT
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Here is the deal, I have a Glock 40, 10 mm. I also have a Glock 20 slide (10mm), Glock 21 slide (.45) and an AA .22 slide. I was carrying my Glock 40 frame topped off with the 21 slide the other day and thought about the ramifications of I ever had to use the set up in self defense. My permit says Glock 40, 10mm, serial #. Now with COBIS gone, I don't believe the caiber or barrel makes a difference other than being superficial. Has anyone ever experienced or have experience with this topic? Does the pistol carried have to match the permit 100% or is the caiber and serial # sufficient? You can not be criminally charged with possessing an unregistered firearm, since the item that is legally the firearm, is in fact registered to you. What happens with permits per county and their ridiculous rules and possible revocation thereof is another matter. |
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Posted: 10/15/2016 6:23:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can not be criminally charged with possessing an unregistered firearm, since the item that is legally the firearm, is in fact registered to you. What happens with permits per county and their ridiculous rules and possible revocation thereof is another matter. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Here is the deal, I have a Glock 40, 10 mm. I also have a Glock 20 slide (10mm), Glock 21 slide (.45) and an AA .22 slide. I was carrying my Glock 40 frame topped off with the 21 slide the other day and thought about the ramifications of I ever had to use the set up in self defense. My permit says Glock 40, 10mm, serial #. Now with COBIS gone, I don't believe the caiber or barrel makes a difference other than being superficial. Has anyone ever experienced or have experience with this topic? Does the pistol carried have to match the permit 100% or is the caiber and serial # sufficient? You can not be criminally charged with possessing an unregistered firearm, since the item that is legally the firearm, is in fact registered to you. What happens with permits per county and their ridiculous rules and possible revocation thereof is another matter. |
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Posted: 10/15/2016 6:24:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Onondaga county wanted a receipt for my new barrel in order to add a new caliber to an already registered pistol. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Monroe county told me I needed a bill of sale/ invoice/ proof of sale to add a caliber to a serial number. yeah I could see that if I tried to add another caliber. Onondaga county wanted a receipt for my new barrel in order to add a new caliber to an already registered pistol.
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Posted: 10/15/2016 11:50:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the penal law says the registration has to have the caliber you think some judge isn't going back up the cops and say that by changing the caliber you created a new, unregistered firearm? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here is the deal, I have a Glock 40, 10 mm. I also have a Glock 20 slide (10mm), Glock 21 slide (.45) and an AA .22 slide. I was carrying my Glock 40 frame topped off with the 21 slide the other day and thought about the ramifications of I ever had to use the set up in self defense. My permit says Glock 40, 10mm, serial #. Now with COBIS gone, I don't believe the caiber or barrel makes a difference other than being superficial. Has anyone ever experienced or have experience with this topic? Does the pistol carried have to match the permit 100% or is the caiber and serial # sufficient? You can not be criminally charged with possessing an unregistered firearm, since the item that is legally the firearm, is in fact registered to you. What happens with permits per county and their ridiculous rules and possible revocation thereof is another matter. |
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Posted: 10/15/2016 7:57:51 PM EDT
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I would think you are inviting trouble if the model number on the slide and caliber don't match the permit, but the serial number does - it could be questioned whether you indeed hold a valid permit for that pistol and get it confiscated for further investigation. The unofficial advice I have heard is to keep the correct slide on it except when actually target shooting, have the correct slide with you while you are doing so, and be careful not to cap anyone with the wrong caliber.
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Posted: 10/18/2016 1:41:42 PM EDT
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Valid permit for that pistol? The license is good regardless. I think a bunch of people in this thread are thinking about this far too much. You have a valid pistol license. The serial number is on the license. Who cares if you mix and match the upper non-serialized parts of the guns you legally own? Do the cops have the ability to confiscate every serialized firearm in your possession with the information they have on record? Yes? Then that's it. That's all they care about.
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