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Posted: 6/27/2016 10:23:53 AM EDT
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I learned this the exact same way....
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Posted: 6/27/2016 10:39:14 AM EDT
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This is why I like SKS's in that case :(
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Posted: 6/27/2016 10:53:24 AM EDT
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Ugly stick or DILLIGAF build.
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Posted: 6/27/2016 10:57:27 AM EDT
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DILLIGAF build. That's what I've been happily using! |
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Posted: 6/27/2016 5:45:16 PM EDT
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Ares SCR. The lower is expensive but it handles and shoots really well.
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Posted: 6/27/2016 7:53:55 PM EDT
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NY-10 lower
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Posted: 6/27/2016 8:26:45 PM EDT
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I'm going to ship it to a pa gunsmith and have it changed to a featureless build
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Posted: 6/28/2016 6:41:19 AM EDT
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NY-10 lower Yup |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:19:26 AM EDT
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That's what I've been happily using! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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DILLIGAF build. That's what I've been happily using! That Dilligaf guy has some brilliant patents. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:29:50 AM EDT
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Whats a DILLIGAF?
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:48:01 AM EDT
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Whats a DILLIGAF? Google it, hint not work safe. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 12:11:30 PM EDT
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Google it, hint not work safe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Whats a DILLIGAF? Google it, hint not work safe. And PM if you still can't read between the lines after googling. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 2:18:31 PM EDT
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A regular Fucking AR-15 FTMFW.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 2:45:29 PM EDT
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I really don't like using a "pinned" magazine either; we were trained is a particular manner for clearing stoppages, unloading, safety, etc. and it flies in the face of that training.
We really needn't go into the diatribe of "what SAFE act" or how "I'm ignoring..." we all know it; the level of risk you're willing to accept is a personal call; as for me, its about being smarter than your adversary. 
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Posted: 6/28/2016 4:45:10 PM EDT
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I never understood the pinned mag other than for looks.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 6:12:45 PM EDT
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I never understood the pinned mag other than for looks. I did a pinned mag for a few reasons: i wasn't going to register I wanted to stay legal because an arrest would destroy my career and hurt my family it is easy enough to reverse if the law was overturned in court I didn't want to have my muzzlebrake removed/destroyed and barrel ruined |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:06:16 PM EDT
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A pinned magazine was an excellent idea for those that had the deadline on their heels and rightly so were not going to register.
It was an excellent idea to keep it that way until we beat it in court. Well that didn't happen and isn't going to happen. At this point, anyone who keeps it that way or builds it that way now is doing so just for looks. We are already restricted to low capacity magazines and now you want to further restrict yourself to reloading one at a time with the rifle part way disassembled. I don't get it. Why go through all that nonsense for looks when not only are you making the rifle non functional, but also dangerous. If you choose to go the compliant route for self defense and public range use, a Thordsen is no different than a Mini 14 as far as comfort goes. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 11:03:22 PM EDT
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Ares SCR is the only choice.
Or Saiga |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 8:30:04 AM EDT
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Just wait until you get an unfired round stuck in the chamber because your new upper has a chamber that's so tight it squeaks. That said, a fixed mag full featured AR-10 is a sweet looking range toy, so I feel it has it's place in our new reality. Not every gun has to be able to storm the beaches.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:01:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whats a DILLIGAF?  Molon Big Mouth |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:22:04 PM EDT
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A picture is worth 1000 words. Fixed mag NY10 |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 8:11:01 PM EDT
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/537/Ubz1gU.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/540/okDaCO.jpg A picture is worth 1000 words. Fixed mag NY10 Love minez. Love them so much I kept my uppers and jackhammered my lowers in to aluminum scrap. 
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Posted: 6/30/2016 6:10:49 AM EDT
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Love minez. Love them so much I kept my uppers and jackhammered my lowers in to aluminum scrap. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/537/Ubz1gU.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/540/okDaCO.jpg A picture is worth 1000 words. Fixed mag NY10 Love minez. Love them so much I kept my uppers and jackhammered my lowers in to aluminum scrap. Nevermind, I am not going there again. 
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Posted: 6/30/2016 9:04:54 PM EDT
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That picture says to me that it can only be reloaded one round at a time at about close to half a minute assuming it's a ten round magazine.
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Posted: 7/7/2016 11:57:16 PM EDT
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I did a video on loading and unloading about 6 months ago. I loaded 10 rounds in 11-12 seconds with my eyes closed. Once you get the technique down, it is just as easy as an SKS with out stripper clip. I started working on a stripper clip guide for it. I just have not had the time to finish. It will happen at some point. Craig
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Posted: 7/8/2016 10:07:52 AM EDT
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NY-10 lower, featureless rifle with detachable mags, or go with something that uses stripper clips. The biggest advantage with the AR is the ability to take detachable magazines, unless you are stuck with what you already have and wanted to comply with the shitty ass law without registering, fixed mags are not the way to go here.
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Posted: 7/8/2016 10:05:34 PM EDT
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The NY10 is just an option that allows those who have existing AR type rifles, to be able to comply and use the rifle for hunting or target shooting at the range. Some of you guys have a small fortune invested in your uppers, stocks, triggers etc. If you are starting from scratch, there are many other options. If you love the AR look and that is what you want, then you are limited. There are ways to be prepared for THAT DAY if it comes. We all know that. An upper receiver assembly is useless without a lower, and so are you if you are in the slammer. I do not think and have never insinuated that I think the NY10 is the best thing since sliced bread. I do not like the way things are any more than any one else. All I am trying to do is, if things go sideways, a guy has something in his hands other than his cock. Craig
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Posted: 7/9/2016 5:32:34 PM EDT
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The NY10 is just an option that allows those who have existing AR type rifles, to be able to comply and use the rifle for hunting or target shooting at the range. Some of you guys have a small fortune invested in your uppers, stocks, triggers etc. If you are starting from scratch, there are many other options. If you love the AR look and that is what you want, then you are limited. There are ways to be prepared for THAT DAY if it comes. We all know that. An upper receiver assembly is useless without a lower, and so are you if you are in the slammer. I do not think and have never insinuated that I think the NY10 is the best thing since sliced bread. I do not like the way things are any more than any one else. All I am trying to do is, if things go sideways, a guy has something in his hands other than his cock. Craig Thanks for the option. A NY-10 pistol would be a nice Fuck you NY! option for a truck gun. |
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Posted: 7/10/2016 10:16:15 AM EDT
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The NY10 is just an option that allows those who have existing AR type rifles, to be able to comply and use the rifle for hunting or target shooting at the range. Some of you guys have a small fortune invested in your uppers, stocks, triggers etc. If you are starting from scratch, there are many other options. If you love the AR look and that is what you want, then you are limited. There are ways to be prepared for THAT DAY if it comes. We all know that. An upper receiver assembly is useless without a lower, and so are you if you are in the slammer. I do not think and have never insinuated that I think the NY10 is the best thing since sliced bread. I do not like the way things are any more than any one else. All I am trying to do is, if things go sideways, a guy has something in his hands other than his cock. Craig Exactly! I wasn't about to make $1,000.00 uppers ban complaint. ETA: it is the best thing since sliced bread. Allows you to keep your uppers and keep shooting legally and stay out of trouble. BTW, the .22 lower functions flawlessly. Thanks again! |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 9:15:53 AM EDT
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If it doesn't violate the selling outside the EE rules; could someone re-post the link/web site for the lowers CMSENGINE was selling?
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Posted: 7/11/2016 9:49:54 AM EDT
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If it doesn't violate the selling outside the EE rules; could someone re-post the link/web site for the lowers CMSENGINE was selling? You have to email him [email protected] |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 12:43:39 PM EDT
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Exactly! I wasn't about to make $1,000.00 uppers ban complaint. ETA: it is the best thing since sliced bread. Allows you to keep your uppers and keep shooting legally and stay out of trouble. BTW, the .22 lower functions flawlessly. Thanks again! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The NY10 is just an option that allows those who have existing AR type rifles, to be able to comply and use the rifle for hunting or target shooting at the range. Some of you guys have a small fortune invested in your uppers, stocks, triggers etc. If you are starting from scratch, there are many other options. If you love the AR look and that is what you want, then you are limited. There are ways to be prepared for THAT DAY if it comes. We all know that. An upper receiver assembly is useless without a lower, and so are you if you are in the slammer. I do not think and have never insinuated that I think the NY10 is the best thing since sliced bread. I do not like the way things are any more than any one else. All I am trying to do is, if things go sideways, a guy has something in his hands other than his cock. Craig Exactly! I wasn't about to make $1,000.00 uppers ban complaint. ETA: it is the best thing since sliced bread. Allows you to keep your uppers and keep shooting legally and stay out of trouble. BTW, the .22 lower functions flawlessly. Thanks again! Actually, until a Judge and/or jury decides on the legality of the NY10 lower it is still a grey area. While we in the gun owner community say "of course it is legal, you cannot remove the mag" common sense has no place in the NY InJustice system. I think it is an ingenious design that may well get around the Unsafe Act but there are no guarantees in this Socialist Gulag and the ride can be hell. |
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Posted: 7/14/2016 12:09:26 AM EDT
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Believe me, I tried everything I could to get a determination from the SAFE ACT Council. I spoke with the head council of the safe act. He agreed to look at a sample NY10 if I sent him one. I did along with a letter stating that if for any reason they preferred that I not sell them, just say so I would comply with their request. He particularly liked that it was engraved NON DETACH MAG. They returned it 363 days later with out a word one way or the other. When I spoke with him on the phone,he made it clear that there would not be any letters of determination on anything PERIOD. Not just the NY10. There are approximately 200 receivers in NY. In a year and a half there have been no reported issues. Several state troopers have them. One in particular has shown his around a lot. There is a written determination on record with Calif. DOJ and the ATF that states a rivet is considered a permanent modification. It requires drilling or machining to reverse which shows intent. I went down this same road back in 2000 here in Calif. when I did the FAB10. Even when I received a letter of compliance from Calif. DOJ, people just didn't trust it. After a year or so with out any legal issues, opinions changed. There is not much more I can do. I do understand the concern. What ever way you decide to go, make sure that it can not be reversed with just the simple use of tools. Craig
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Posted: 7/14/2016 6:05:42 AM EDT
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Believe me, I tried everything I could to get a determination from the SAFE ACT Council. I spoke with the head council of the safe act. He agreed to look at a sample NY10 if I sent him one. I did along with a letter stating that if for any reason they preferred that I not sell them, just say so I would comply with their request. He particularly liked that it was engraved NON DETACH MAG. They returned it 363 days later with out a word one way or the other. When I spoke with him on the phone,he made it clear that there would not be any letters of determination on anything PERIOD. Not just the NY10. There are approximately 200 receivers in NY. In a year and a half there have been no reported issues. Several state troopers have them. One in particular has shown his around a lot. There is a written determination on record with Calif. DOJ and the ATF that states a rivet is considered a permanent modification. It requires drilling or machining to reverse which shows intent. I went down this same road back in 2000 here in Calif. when I did the FAB10. Even when I received a letter of compliance from Calif. DOJ, people just didn't trust it. After a year or so with out any legal issues, opinions changed. There is not much more I can do. I do understand the concern. What ever way you decide to go, make sure that it can not be reversed with just the simple use of tools. Craig Craig, I am not in any way trying to diminish your solution but I feel it is my duty to point out that there are no guarantees of Safe Act legality and that this is by design. Everyone has their own level of risk tolerance but it should be based upon facts not conjecture. A blessing from the CA DOJ is meaningless to an overzealous NY prosecutor with an agenda. |
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Posted: 7/14/2016 11:53:23 PM EDT
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Bushman. I never took it that way. I understand completely. I was just trying to give out as much info as to the length I went trying to get some kind of determination, both here, NY and the ATF. I am not trying to convince anyone to purchase one. I do not care whether I sell 1 or 1000. In all honesty, they are my least favorite part to machine.Now with the new Calif. laws, my local guys will keep me busy . I will always have NY10's for those guys who want them. Actually,even though some NYrs are cautious or skeptical, not one has ever been abrasive. Now Calif gun gurus run the gamut. They either appreciate the effort,tell you what a dumb fuck you are or want to tear you from limb to limb. Everything is good on my end. We need to just keep up the fight. Craig
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Posted: 7/18/2016 11:24:07 PM EDT
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Let us know when you plan on doing another run, and how much a PISTOL marked lower would cost
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