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Posted: 5/24/2016 11:25:02 AM EDT
http://www.mpnnow.com/news/20160523/phelps-man-stands-trial-for-series-of-gun-charges

Oh figures, he's a convicted felon.  

But guns weren't his, they were his wifes.  But they apparently didn't charge his wife for the SAFE violations, they're charging him.

DA says it's all about broken laws, not if you agree with the law.

Oddly, no mention that he is charged with anything concerning being a felon with a gun, he was charged with SAFE violations.
Link Posted: 5/24/2016 12:01:25 PM EDT
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Its about breaking NYS law? Just stepping out your front door is breaking some fucking law in this state.
Link Posted: 5/24/2016 12:35:26 PM EDT
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Don't blame the cops though, they were just following orders and doing their jobs. So much for "we're on your side, we would never arrest you for just safe act violations in your home."

Collaborators.
Link Posted: 5/24/2016 1:03:48 PM EDT
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Don't blame the cops though, they were just following orders and doing their jobs. So much for "we're on your side, we would never arrest you for just safe act violations in your home."

Collaborators.
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Nuremberg again?

While not often, there have been times at my job I have refused to follow orders.  

The DA seems to be the greatest problem here.

Don't get me wrong- the subject is not somebody I'd care to know.   However, an unconstitutional law is unconstitutional for everyone.
Link Posted: 5/24/2016 1:03:58 PM EDT
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Jury nullification.
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Nuremberg again?

While not often, there have been times at my job I have refused to follow orders.  

The DA seems to be the greatest problem here.

Don't get me wrong- the subject is not somebody I'd care to know.   However, an unconstitutional law is unconstitutional for everyone.
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Don't blame the cops though, they were just following orders and doing their jobs. So much for "we're on your side, we would never arrest you for just safe act violations in your home."

Collaborators.



Nuremberg again?

While not often, there have been times at my job I have refused to follow orders.  

The DA seems to be the greatest problem here.

Don't get me wrong- the subject is not somebody I'd care to know.   However, an unconstitutional law is unconstitutional for everyone.




what county ?
Link Posted: 5/24/2016 2:23:27 PM EDT
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Nuremberg again?

While not often, there have been times at my job I have refused to follow orders.  

The DA seems to be the greatest problem here.

Don't get me wrong- the subject is not somebody I'd care to know.   However, an unconstitutional law is unconstitutional for everyone.
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Don't blame the cops though, they were just following orders and doing their jobs. So much for "we're on your side, we would never arrest you for just safe act violations in your home."

Collaborators.



Nuremberg again?

While not often, there have been times at my job I have refused to follow orders.  

The DA seems to be the greatest problem here.

Don't get me wrong- the subject is not somebody I'd care to know.   However, an unconstitutional law is unconstitutional for everyone.


Well that's how you tell the collaborators from the good people in an occupied state/country. The collaborators just follow orders, and the good people stand up for what's right.

There seems to never be a shortage of state police troopers to make these safe act arrests. I think it's the haircuts.
Link Posted: 5/24/2016 3:01:28 PM EDT
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http://www.mpnnow.com/news/20160523/phelps-man-stands-trial-for-series-of-gun-charges

Oh figures, he's a convicted felon.  

But guns weren't his, they were his wifes.  But they apparently didn't charge his wife for the SAFE violations, they're charging him.

DA says it's all about broken laws, not if you agree with the law.

Oddly, no mention that he is charged with anything concerning being a felon with a gun, he was charged with SAFE violations.
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Yeah .... I had to read the article more than once but, he was charged with SAFE act violations
Link Posted: 5/24/2016 3:42:31 PM EDT
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Yeah .... I had to read the article more than once but, he was charged with SAFE act violations
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http://www.mpnnow.com/news/20160523/phelps-man-stands-trial-for-series-of-gun-charges

Oh figures, he's a convicted felon.  

But guns weren't his, they were his wifes.  But they apparently didn't charge his wife for the SAFE violations, they're charging him.

DA says it's all about broken laws, not if you agree with the law.

Oddly, no mention that he is charged with anything concerning being a felon with a gun, he was charged with SAFE violations.



Yeah .... I had to read the article more than once but, he was charged with SAFE act violations



There is a lot more to this than in the paper for sure,,

Why i asked what county it was in..   Dutchess county Da's office is very detailed before charging someone.

They are not charging under the 7 round rule for sure or now the lack of it  

Semi auto pistol stolen from down south about 7 years ago that was loaded with more than 7 rounds. The person was charged with criminal possession in the 3rd degree since it was in his car.  Well tossed out during a stop.

The weapon  was sent out verify it actually a operating weapon . Which it did fire as designed.  

The person was not charged with stolen property which surprised me but was told due to the age of the theft of weapon nor with more than 7 rounds ammo in the mag.

I didn't hear any AW causes wanted to see what the DA would charge be on them but case never came up.
Link Posted: 5/25/2016 8:06:08 AM EDT
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Ontario
Link Posted: 5/25/2016 9:00:25 AM EDT
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Lots more information   http://www.mpnnow.com/news/20160524/firearms-introduced-into-evidence-in-gun-trial

Charged with SAFE for an SKS....I thought SKS were a-OK as being non-detachable.
Link Posted: 5/25/2016 9:53:00 AM EDT
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Charged with SAFE for an SKS....I thought SKS were a-OK as being non-detachable.
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Seriously how can they charge for an sks?   Wtf?
Link Posted: 5/25/2016 10:00:44 AM EDT
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Court documents show that Bennett’s felony status stems from his September 2004 conviction on four drug charges, including two counts of third-degree criminal sale of a controlled substance, a class B felony. Bennett was sentenced to two to six years in prison for the drug charges.
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Felon in possession.
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Lots more information   http://www.mpnnow.com/news/20160524/firearms-introduced-into-evidence-in-gun-trial



Charged with SAFE for an SKS....I thought SKS were a-OK as being non-detachable.






Seriously how can they charge for an sks?   Wtf?
Depends on whether the SKS had the latch that allows for detachable magazines or the original fixed mag version. There were a lot of SKSes out there that had the full modern collapsible stock and pistol grip treatment as well.



 
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Lots more information   http://www.mpnnow.com/news/20160524/firearms-introduced-into-evidence-in-gun-trial

Charged with SAFE for an SKS....I thought SKS were a-OK as being non-detachable.



Seriously how can they charge for an sks?   Wtf?
Depends on whether the SKS had the latch that allows for detachable magazines or the original fixed mag version. There were a lot of SKSes out there that had the full modern collapsible stock and pistol grip treatment as well.
 



and they do sell 30 round duck bills too.. So that could be why..
Link Posted: 5/25/2016 12:40:15 PM EDT
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Felon in possession.
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Felon in possession.


Dealing NARCOTICS, not the case to make a stand on.
Link Posted: 5/25/2016 1:08:01 PM EDT
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Dealing NARCOTICS, not the case to make a stand on.
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Felon in possession.


Dealing NARCOTICS, not the case to make a stand on.


While not a poster child for gun owners, a UnSafe Act conviction would still be a precedent that can be followed by other Courts.
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While not a poster child for gun owners, a UnSafe Act conviction would still be a precedent that can be followed by other Courts.
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Court documents show that Bennett’s felony status stems from his September 2004 conviction on four drug charges, including two counts of third-degree criminal sale of a controlled substance, a class B felony. Bennett was sentenced to two to six years in prison for the drug charges.


Felon in possession.


Dealing NARCOTICS, not the case to make a stand on.


While not a poster child for gun owners, a UnSafe Act conviction would still be a precedent that can be followed by other Courts.


He would have been charged under the old laws also, media hyping the SafeAct does not make it a SafeAct prosecution. This is akin to the state saying there were 6,000 SafeAct arrests thus far when all of them would have been made under the old statutes. It's a ra-ra for the Princess.
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