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Posted: 8/31/2015 11:21:19 PM EDT

I heard the rule changed a year or two ago? It used to be that only domiciliaries could get a pistol permit in NY, but now part-time residents (snowbirds) can? Anyone know much about this?

I want to get this done.

Posted: 9/1/2015 12:22:09 AM EDT

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When pigs fly!!! Sorry , but I don't see this coming ever.

Posted: 9/1/2015 1:02:48 AM EDT

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These guys seem to think differently? Based primarily on Osterweil v. Bartlett

http://nyfirearms.com/forums/pistol-permits/70893-nys-non-resident-pistol-permit.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/16/part-time-new-yorkers-pis_n_4108925.html

Posted: 9/1/2015 1:31:53 AM EDT

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Look back in the threads.
There's been past discussions on it and yes people with verified NY 2nd residences etc can get permits

Posted: 9/1/2015 1:51:45 AM EDT

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When pigs fly!!! Sorry , but I don't see this coming ever.

Look back in the threads.
There's been past discussions on it and yes people with verified NY 2nd residences etc can get permits

Is it tough? I'm on the deed of a family residence, so I can prove ownership. Is it as simple as going into the office, filling out the application, providing my prints, and then just waiting for it to show up? Or do I have to be interviewed by local CLEO or something?

Posted: 9/1/2015 1:58:08 AM EDT

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Is it tough? I'm on the deed of a family residence, so I can prove ownership. Is it as simple as going into the office, filling out the application, providing my prints, and then just waiting for it to show up? Or do I have to be interviewed by local CLEO or something?

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NYS doesn't have a standard process on how you apply
It varies from county to county
You should ask how it works in the county you will be applying in
Like I said, check back through older threads
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_9/558137_Non_Resident_Pistol_Permits.html&light=resident

Over on another forum one guy mentioned the process in his county here

http://nyfirearms.com/forums/pistol-permits/80200-non-resident-pistol-permit.html
http://nyfirearms.com/forums/pistol-permits/70893-nys-non-resident-pistol-permit.html

Posted: 9/1/2015 7:17:43 AM EDT

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Is it tough? I'm on the deed of a family residence, so I can prove ownership. Is it as simple as going into the office, filling out the application, providing my prints, and then just waiting for it to show up? Or do I have to be interviewed by local CLEO or something?

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When pigs fly!!! Sorry , but I don't see this coming ever.

Look back in the threads.

There's been past discussions on it and yes people with verified NY 2nd residences etc can get permits

Is it tough? I'm on the deed of a family residence, so I can prove ownership. Is it as simple as going into the office, filling out the application, providing my prints, and then just waiting for it to show up? Or do I have to be interviewed by local CLEO or something?

Varies by county. I've had my permit for ages but heard stuff here about weird interviews and other nonsense.

I was surprised the guy in that nyfireams thread got his permit, unsurprised that it was restricted.

You really need to talk to someone in the county where the property is.

Edit at a minimum you need to get prints, fill out an application, come up with references, who usually have to be in the county, maybe take a nra course. I'd wonder whether they would wnat proof you actually stay there, like is your name on the utiiity bills v just being on the deed, but I have no idea

Posted: 9/1/2015 9:18:07 AM EDT

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County would be Essex. I'll update when I find some stuff out from the county.

Posted: 9/1/2015 9:36:05 AM EDT

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I don't know much about Essex I would assume there is a " pistol permit girl" at the county clerk who would answer questions

Posted: 9/1/2015 1:26:42 PM EDT

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Also i see another law suit coming about this.. Since NYSP are making you have a NYS id as part of the requirment. If your out of state you dont have one.. So this going to be interesting when you have to recert your CCW with them.

Posted: 9/1/2015 7:54:59 PM EDT

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Also i see another law suit coming about this.. Since NYSP are making you have a NYS id as part of the requirment. If your out of state you dont have one.. So this going to be interesting when you have to recert your CCW with them.

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Wasn't so bad when you could get a "Valid in New York Only" ID. But since they stopped handing those out...

Posted: 9/4/2015 5:39:20 AM EDT

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I told my clerk that I'll have a North Carolina Driver Licence and visit and stay in NY as needed. Address on my permit is listed as the addy I'll crash at while in NY.

EDIT : just changed my state
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Posted: 9/4/2015 8:34:44 AM EDT

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I told my clerk that I'll have a North Carolina Driver Licence and visit and stay in NY as needed. Address on my permit is listed as the addy I'll crash at while in NY.

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Did you find the process to be a gigantic pain in the ass?

Posted: 9/4/2015 8:41:57 AM EDT

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I told my clerk that I'll have a North Carolina Driver Licence and visit and stay in NY as needed. Address on my permit is listed as the addy I'll crash at while in NY.

EDIT : just changed my state
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Did you find the process to be a gigantic pain in the ass?

Not at all.. The pistol clerk is a very pleasant person too deal with..
Next trip NY I'll be seeing if I can get my NC address on my permit.

Posted: 9/11/2015 2:02:00 PM EDT

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So I went and visited the clerk and got some information, including the application. Clerk was very nice, though some in the office obviously didn't like the idea of a part-timer getting a gun.

I don't see anything in the application regarding a safety course. This is NY, so I kinda expect there must be such a requirement. Can someone elaborate on it a bit?

Posted: 9/11/2015 2:58:12 PM EDT

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So I went and visited the clerk and got some information, including the application. Clerk was very nice, though some in the office obviously didn't like the idea of a part-timer getting a gun.

I don't see anything in the application regarding a safety course. This is NY, so I kinda expect there must be such a requirement. Can someone elaborate on it a bit?

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This also depends on the county. I know steuben doesn't require it but chemung does. This would be a question to ask the pp office in the area you are applying in.

Posted: 9/11/2015 3:18:58 PM EDT

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This also depends on the county. I know steuben doesn't require it but chemung does. This would be a question to ask the pp office in the area you are applying in.

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So I went and visited the clerk and got some information, including the application. Clerk was very nice, though some in the office obviously didn't like the idea of a part-timer getting a gun.

I don't see anything in the application regarding a safety course. This is NY, so I kinda expect there must be such a requirement. Can someone elaborate on it a bit?

This also depends on the county. I know steuben doesn't require it but chemung does. This would be a question to ask the pp office in the area you are applying in.

Understood. I figured there might be a statewide requirement, but maybe since they didn't mention it, it's not required

Here's another question. I'm not sure if these applications are standardized at all, but there's a section that asks you to check which type of license I'm applying for, and I can only check ONE. Applicable options are "carry concealed" and "possess on premises". I guess the question is should I check the "carry concealed" box and thereby go for broke on the application? I assume if you reach for that, they could deny that and give you a restricted permit, rather than denying it entirely and making you go through the whole application process again?

Posted: 9/11/2015 5:19:38 PM EDT

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Once again depends on county. Here the clerks tell you to apply for concealed. Almost everyone I know that has it is concealed here. I've only heard of a few that weren't and they got into trouble as kids. Sheriff usually told them to just apply to have restrictions removed after a year.

Posted: 9/11/2015 6:25:49 PM EDT

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Once again depends on county. Here the clerks tell you to apply for concealed. Almost everyone I know that has it is concealed here. I've only heard of a few that weren't and they got into trouble as kids. Sheriff usually told them to just apply to have restrictions removed after a year.

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This whole process is hilarious to me as a bit of an outsider to it. It's amazing to me that the most restrictive state in the nation as far as gun rights has very little standardization statewide for this haha. Seems everything is county-dependent.

I'm going to apply for the concealed, because that's what I really want, and if they deny it I'll go from there.

Posted: 9/11/2015 6:43:55 PM EDT

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Curious on this one as well, i recently purchased a condo in lake placid
with some family members , i already have my westchester permit with restrictions on it
and will eventually retire out of this god forsaken state , but i really love the lake placid area
wich is in essex county and would love to continue to visit when i retire .

Posted: 9/11/2015 8:17:28 PM EDT

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This whole process is hilarious to me as a bit of an outsider to it. It's amazing to me that the most restrictive state in the nation as far as gun rights has very little standardization statewide for this haha. Seems everything is county-dependent.

I'm going to apply for the concealed, because that's what I really want, and if they deny it I'll go from there.

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Once again depends on county. Here the clerks tell you to apply for concealed. Almost everyone I know that has it is concealed here. I've only heard of a few that weren't and they got into trouble as kids. Sheriff usually told them to just apply to have restrictions removed after a year.

This whole process is hilarious to me as a bit of an outsider to it. It's amazing to me that the most restrictive state in the nation as far as gun rights has very little standardization statewide for this haha. Seems everything is county-dependent.

I'm going to apply for the concealed, because that's what I really want, and if they deny it I'll go from there.

It is, but as a upstate residents I'm happy about it. If the whole state was run like the shithole nyc upstate would really be screwed.

Posted: 9/11/2015 11:31:52 PM EDT

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Here's another question. I'm not sure if these applications are standardized at all, but there's a section that asks you to check which type of license I'm applying for, and I can only check ONE. Applicable options are "carry concealed" and "possess on premises". I guess the question is should I check the "carry concealed" box and thereby go for broke on the application? I assume if you reach for that, they could deny that and give you a restricted permit, rather than denying it entirely and making you go through the whole application process again?

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The residence-only permit tends to be a NYC-only thing
Apply for the concealed carry, even if it winds up having administrative overstamps

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